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Happy to amicably disagree. My main point of posting was to stop you asserting that MSD are in control of the stadium, when it is clear, a matter of public record, that Morris still retains ownership and (restricted) control of PPS.

No one really knows what he’s costing the club.
But even if it’s at the low end of the speculation, it’ll be a huge chunk of wage budget for a league one club, even if we only pay half!

Rooney on £90k is has been reported by likes of Mail Sun etc. A certain ex-director of the club has also supposedly been spouting he’s on £4m per year. It’s my hunch that same director is Barrytheanon’s source on the other thread or it’s come from that direction (the speculation this is all a ruse by the administrators, a deal is miles away and Mel is still involved in the background and don’t be surprised if he returns some day) 
On Rooney’s wages, don’t believe it’s £90k per week or £4m per year for one second, but it will be likely too high for a championship manager let alone a league 1 manager. If the new owners think he’s the man then they would need to offer him a long term deal (3 years) but a huge pay cut as we need to get our costs under control, then it’s up to him how much he wants the job.

This is all true, how would it look in the media though if the football club could not be saved due to his pay packet?  I think he would have to deal if the new owners went public with that...
 

Are any sensible, clear thinking, stone sober realists allowed to post in this thread? 

Always love your optimism and enthusiasm B4. Never change. 
Personally I think 4 points would be a great result in the next three games. 

Don't believe you. Your grammar and spelling are far too good! 

Are you putting in £5m as the non refundable deposit out of your own funds?

This is 2 months 2 late, who would speak on our behalf?  Need to raise £60m+ in a few weeks, zero chance of it happening.
Maybe a better idea is a just giving page to assist any buyers with a purchase instead.....

If he cares as much as he says he does, he shoukd either agree a huge pay cut, take shares in leiu of payment, or resign....   Under no circumstances shoukd he expect a £4m pay packet in Lg1

With most takeovers the successful buyers are the ones who just go about their business under the radar and then the deal is announced.
Kirchner was too vocal. Appleby is still the favourite in my book. No evidence just a gut feeling.

Still believe we'll be fine. Appleby will get the club.

Lol,the op was stating just how attractive Rooney's name was and he was attracting major talent to the club..
My point was that he isn't and that he needs the same budget as any other club to do so....his name hasn't been the big draw that some believe.

We want to go forwards not backwards.

I don't mind who it is. It's not as if we are in a position to pick and choose.
It boils down to this now: No takeover = no Derby County any more. I'd even have Fridgy, Ashley or a Fridgy/Ashley consortium. 

Steve Mac, on a low pay packet and big bonus if we go back up.  Stavie Mac part 4 coming to a club near year......

Steve Mac, on a low pay packet and big bonus if we go back up.  Stavie Mac part 4 coming to a club near year......

Steve Mac, on a low pay packet and big bonus if we go back up.  Stavie Mac part 4 coming to a club near year......

We've had a tough couple of years and the downwards spiral continues.  The breaking news today that a Preferred bidder would not be announced this side of Xmas, which essential means not until at least the second week in January as there are obviously still negotiations going on and Xmas holidays where sod all will be achieved.
The major risks to a deal are in my view:
HMRC - I think the best deal we can hope for is a very long extended time to pay, I doubt they will reduce the debt, a long pay back period is the best we can hope for.
Mel Morris - A man that was deceitful to the fans, ran up huge debts and has walked away with an £81.1M asset in his back pocket with a £20m loan secured against it.  Lets also not forget his £124M in soft loans to the cub.  I think he should personally throw the stadium into the deal providing the MSD debts are cleared.  My understanding is he wants a payment, if not why has he not put in writing that the ground can be included in any sale providing that MSD has been paid off.  After all he caused this mess!!!!!!
The unsecured creditors - I pretty much see they will accept the 20p in the £.  So this does not concern me too much.
Boro & Wycombe - Owned by a pair of chancers and opportunists that are trying to make million's out of our club, or maybe even trying so seen it go under all together because the £51M combine claims are a risk.  I don't think they have a cat in hells chance winning legally, but in this strange Football Bubble we live in who would think that the EFL could sign off our accounts and agree our amortisation policies, only to go back several years and punish us retrospectively after changing the rules.       
Covid - The threat of crowds being reduced due to passports and lockdowns is also a risk to the club, as it will reduce revenues.
When you throw all these moving parts in together, is it any wonder the fans are anxious.  I'm going to make a prediction now and its one where there is a fire sale in January, the administrators will then try to value the club at the same price as they did at the start of this process only to find out they've fooked the sale up.  Liquidation is looking more and more like the most likely outcome for me!!!!
So who thinks we will survive an why?
Who thinks we will be liquidated and why?
 

Steve Mac, on a low pay packet and big bonus if we go back up.  Stavie Mac part 4 coming to a club near year......

Steve Mac, on a low pay packet and big bonus if we go back up.  Stavie Mac part 4 coming to a club near year......

I’m disgusted the Administration’s not revealed the preferred bidders details today.  Don’t they know Derby’s futures more important than religion?
Sigh.

How much were losing every year under Mel? ? I know they were losing money, but that is expected in the EFL. Have you all forgotten our other owners - we lurch from one financial crisis to another. GSE were a brief island of stability. To say you dont like Appleby because he apparently didnt leave the finances in a good condition is ludicrous.
As i said the finances under GSE were as good as they've been for decades. Virtually all teams in the EFL lose money, but £9mill a year could be covered with just one player sale. Just because they weren't piddling money away like Mel doesnt mean they were doing a bad job. Its GSE who built McClarens first team afterall.
 

Am not sure how Rooney can be compelled to go unless we get into the same ridiculous situation with Keogh where the new owners try and vary his current contract....if Rooney gets sacked then we'll have pay off his contract so we'll be no better off....so we would be relying on him quitting of his own volation or jumping to another job where he will get paid the same amount of dosh, seeing as he's still a rookie manager good luck with that one.

The football was poo, a lot of that though was Cloughs negative, boring defensive football.  I say invest money in your strikers and aim to score more than the other team.  McLaren could be the man to take us back to glory....  Rooney has to go, £4m wage packet isn't affordable....