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Another mystifying decision by a Championship owner. Accept that Hull did invest in the squad/brought in some big money loans but its hardly like they were blowing the rest of the division out of the water. Rosenior was nominated for Championship manager of the season & they finished a mere 3 points outside the playoffs - a damn sight better than the position he found them in. What makes it worse is that their owner gave Rosenior a new 3 year contract at Christmas - an expensive decision to end early & one I presume has been pre-empted by a bigger name showing interest in the job.
Derby might not be able to compete with some teams in this division financially but we do have the precious commodity of stability & common sense behind the scenes. Some of the decision making at clubs like Birmingham, Watford, Sunderland & now Hull smack of the incoherent kneejerk reactions so beloved of our previous owner & inevitably end in poorer results & decline.
I wish Liam well, a good coach & a good man. He needs to find a Championship gig at a club prepared to take a long term view. I suspect Hull will finish significantly below 7th next term.

I agree. I think Max just felt it was time for a new challenge in a new place. The fact he agreed to a deal that would have been less financially favourable to him than if he'd simply run his contract down so that the club could agree a deal that worked for us is a tribute to his character.

I too think he should be in our Championship squad next season. However, I can understand a loan to L1 with a recall option, depending on who we can sign for the first team. At least it would give the club's staff some confidence in whether he could step up to the Championship for the 2nd half of the season.

What an experience for an 18 year old kid playing men's football and becoming their Wembley hero.
Well done Daj!!

Really going to miss him as a player & like Will Hughes, will always be bittersweet watching him play in future.
Class act on & off the field. He'll find his way to the top level before too long.

Good shout Dimmu. I do like a lot of the Serie B format - particularly like the principle that the 3rd placed team has the opportunity to go up automatically but has to show real dominance to do so, that they have a big advantage over the other playoff teams should they need playoffs and that the higher placed team doesn't have to win the tie/onus is on lower placed team to actually win the tie. My Italian team (Bari) finished 3rd in Serie B last season, got past Sudtirol with a late equaliser in a home semifinal but then contrived to lose in the last minute to Claudio Ranieri's Cagliari (in front of 50k at the San Nicola in Bari) - couldn't begrudge Cagliari their promotion though & was certainly more deserving than a penalty shoot out win.
My only reservations in applying to English divisions are firstly that too many teams are involved (in Serie B, there is practically no such thing as safe midtable) - I struggle with the idea of an 8th placed team getting promoted so would restrict it to 3rd-6th placed as currently if playoffs are needed. I'd also probably tweak the 14 points needed by 3rd placed team to finish above 4th placed in order to get automatically promoted to something around the 9 point mark - given how tight some of the EFL divisions can be, 14 points is massive & I think any team finishing 10 points or more behind can't really argue that the 3rd placed team are clearly better.

Serie B promotion playoffs have some interesting emphasis on league position. It sounds complicated but it is not and at least the success during the season means something. Taken from wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serie_B:
The top two teams are automatically promoted and the third-place team is only automatically promoted if they are more than 14 points clear of the fourth-placed team. If the third-place team is not more than 14 points clear of the fourth-place team then the teams from third-place to eighth-place enter a play-off to decide the final promotion spot.
The preliminary round between fifth and eighth and between sixth and seventh is a single match on the ground of the best placed in the regular season. In the event of a tie at the end of normal time, extra time will be played. If the game is still tied at the end of extra time, the highest-ranked team goes through, without taking a penalty shootout.
The semi-finals are a two-legged competition with a first leg at home for the teams that played in the preliminary round and a second leg at home for the third and fourth-placed teams in the regular season. In the event of a tie in the aggregate result, the best-ranked team in the regular season progresses to the final, without extra time and penalties.
The final is played between the winners of the semi-finals over two legs, the latter at the home of the best-placed team in the league. In the event of a tie, the best-placed team in the regular season is promoted to Serie A, without the need for extra time or penalties. If the two finalists have finished the regular season on equal points, the second leg includes extra time and penalties if required.
 

I’ve got all 4 - couldn’t make WBA. 

In 2 years time we'll have him and Hughes sat in front of the defence directing our promotion charge.

It’s just another sadly irritating moment when one of our own, moves on because we as a club didn’t reach an higher level.  
 
That team PL2 team was very special and even the years following had promise, but slowly our academy talent has drained away; at least we saw Max grow and develop, similar to Will. Still painful to see him move on.

No matter how you slice it, losing Max is horrible. Watching the video actually makes me feel a bit sick. I've been in denial mode for a while now, made easier by the fact he was immediately loaned back. Easy to pretend he wasn't gone, but he is and it makes me very sad. I know we'd likely not have secured an auto-slot without the cash he brought in and maybe I'll be more grown up about it in time, but of all pain the fan base suffered in recent times, somehow this knife cuts the deepest. Childish as it is, I'm now sat here wandering whether he'd come back at the end of his current deal?
As it is, thanks for some wonderful memories, Max. Best of luck lad and don't be a stranger, eh! 😔

Really going to miss him as a player & like Will Hughes, will always be bittersweet watching him play in future.
Class act on & off the field. He'll find his way to the top level before too long.

Really going to miss him as a player & like Will Hughes, will always be bittersweet watching him play in future.
Class act on & off the field. He'll find his way to the top level before too long.

Really going to miss him as a player & like Will Hughes, will always be bittersweet watching him play in future.
Class act on & off the field. He'll find his way to the top level before too long.

Really going to miss him as a player & like Will Hughes, will always be bittersweet watching him play in future.
Class act on & off the field. He'll find his way to the top level before too long.

I’m with you there. Big fan of Bird as a player and think it’s a shame he’s gone, but sort of understand the circumstance. Really nice touch watching that back, wish him all the best, apart from when he plays us 😉 

Really going to miss him as a player & like Will Hughes, will always be bittersweet watching him play in future.
Class act on & off the field. He'll find his way to the top level before too long.

Really going to miss him as a player & like Will Hughes, will always be bittersweet watching him play in future.
Class act on & off the field. He'll find his way to the top level before too long.

Really going to miss him as a player & like Will Hughes, will always be bittersweet watching him play in future.
Class act on & off the field. He'll find his way to the top level before too long.

Did that reporter say the best supported club in the East Midlands, in Division 3.  Weren't Forest still in the Clough 10 year history patch in Division 1 .😂 Players change, time moves, that's a constant.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6zK7RmiUcn/?igsh=MWh4Z2Vxb3Q2OXhuZw==
The above is a link to Max Bird’s Instagram and a lovely reel he’s shared earlier this evening 😢 👏 

Who knows maybe Mr Knight used a bit of persuasion. Either way going to miss this kid, proved the doubters that he wouldn’t be playing with his heart after signing for Bristol City in January, and although he missed a lot of games he scores in the one where it mattered most and got us back up to the Championship! Good luck Birdy🖤🤍

Best of luck Max, but what a waste of his talent going a perpetually mediocre, permanently mid table club like Bristol City. Every season is the same there; a little bit of hope and a sniff of the top six then…nothing but dead rubber games at the tail end of the season. Shame.
 
 

I think Sibs has developed tremendously over the last half of this season.