McArthur Park

Watching on TV tonight, why is it so much more nerve wracking than being at the  game?!! Great first half, let's keep this going!

Just massive, massive respect to this guy. I hope to goodness we can sign him up, what a difference he has made.

Just massive, massive respect to this guy. I hope to goodness we can sign him up, what a difference he has made.

Just massive, massive respect to this guy. I hope to goodness we can sign him up, what a difference he has made.

Just massive, massive respect to this guy. I hope to goodness we can sign him up, what a difference he has made.

Just massive, massive respect to this guy. I hope to goodness we can sign him up, what a difference he has made.

Just massive, massive respect to this guy. I hope to goodness we can sign him up, what a difference he has made.

Just massive, massive respect to this guy. I hope to goodness we can sign him up, what a difference he has made.

Just massive, massive respect to this guy. I hope to goodness we can sign him up, what a difference he has made.

Just massive, massive respect to this guy. I hope to goodness we can sign him up, what a difference he has made.

Just massive, massive respect to this guy. I hope to goodness we can sign him up, what a difference he has made.

It's got to be a caramel doughnut surely?😁

It's got to be a caramel doughnut surely?😁

It's got to be a caramel doughnut surely?😁

It's got to be a caramel doughnut surely?😁

Can't we just have one thread without any attacking of Warne? Not like you can't do it elsewhere!

Actually this is a really good point , and may be the reason that the "two sides", as there seem to be, are so polarised? There are those who actually do see success as the be all and end all, and therefore are perhaps more likely to be critical if they don't think we are going to achieve that, and those, myself included, who just enjoy following the club, enjoy everything that match day entails, irrespective of style of football, the league we are playing in etc. Obviously it would be great to be playing scintillating football, 20 points clear at the top, but it's not the only, or most important, thing for some.

Actually this is a really good point , and may be the reason that the "two sides", as there seem to be, are so polarised? There are those who actually do see success as the be all and end all, and therefore are perhaps more likely to be critical if they don't think we are going to achieve that, and those, myself included, who just enjoy following the club, enjoy everything that match day entails, irrespective of style of football, the league we are playing in etc. Obviously it would be great to be playing scintillating football, 20 points clear at the top, but it's not the only, or most important, thing for some.

I'm neither. I don't expect success. But I don't want turgid football either. I'd rather play well and achieve nothing (as we have for the last 20 years or so, give or take) than play awful and achieve nothing.
The best we can hope for as Derby fans is the odd blip of success, the odd sniff of the premier league every few years, maybe even a few seasons there every now and then. Hope is that key word. It's like only fools and horses, "this time next year lads, we'll be in the prem"....
I'm not sure if it's the manager, the players, league one, administration, some combination of all of the above, but that little flicker of hope in me has gone. I don't see us as a temporarily embarrassed premier league team any more. Games like Saturday have absolutely ground that kind of thinking out of me.
I don't honestly care if we go up or not this season, or if we win lose or draw etc. I just want something to look forward to next time I watch the match, and that's pretty much gone for me at the moment.
Sorry for the essay.

Actually this is a really good point , and may be the reason that the "two sides", as there seem to be, are so polarised? There are those who actually do see success as the be all and end all, and therefore are perhaps more likely to be critical if they don't think we are going to achieve that, and those, myself included, who just enjoy following the club, enjoy everything that match day entails, irrespective of style of football, the league we are playing in etc. Obviously it would be great to be playing scintillating football, 20 points clear at the top, but it's not the only, or most important, thing for some.

Actually this is a really good point , and may be the reason that the "two sides", as there seem to be, are so polarised? There are those who actually do see success as the be all and end all, and therefore are perhaps more likely to be critical if they don't think we are going to achieve that, and those, myself included, who just enjoy following the club, enjoy everything that match day entails, irrespective of style of football, the league we are playing in etc. Obviously it would be great to be playing scintillating football, 20 points clear at the top, but it's not the only, or most important, thing for some.

Actually this is a really good point , and may be the reason that the "two sides", as there seem to be, are so polarised? There are those who actually do see success as the be all and end all, and therefore are perhaps more likely to be critical if they don't think we are going to achieve that, and those, myself included, who just enjoy following the club, enjoy everything that match day entails, irrespective of style of football, the league we are playing in etc. Obviously it would be great to be playing scintillating football, 20 points clear at the top, but it's not the only, or most important, thing for some.

And those of us who prefer to see the league position as a positive are derided because "it's a rubbish league, with another manager we'd have walked the league, we have the biggest wage budget so should be walking the league, we're only second inspite of Warne not because of him, and we don't deserve it because something, something xG".

Yeah the mascot didn't half annoy me as well, goading our fans when they scored, but more annoyingly disrespecting our players. Not that any of that excuses our bad performance mind!