RotherhamRam Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I don't see how he can get any kind of confidence up when he (and Maguire) know that if they do happen to make a little mistake they'll be dropped for the next 5 games. It's a pathetic way to manage a team. Best of luck to the lad, hope he stays in England and proves Nigel wrong. Rubbish. Players have come in and worked to keep their position and make it difficult to drop them. Maguire and Cwyka haven't, When Cywka was out of the team last year not many people were calling for him to play but after Clough said his comments he became an instant hit and threads calling Clough and wanting him to play cropped up. I prefer a solid team after the seasons since being in prem to steady the ship. We are 9pts off last yr total with 20 games still left to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotherhamRam Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 People just aren’t going to agree on this one. Some like to label NC as some kind of footballing dullard who only likes grafters and who just can’t see the talent he’s letting slip through his fingers. Yet, the only genuine quality attacking player I’ve seen at PP over the past few years has been Commons. Clough wanted (and I think really expected) Commons to stay - despite the fact that the cost of keeping Commons would have severely limited his ability to bring in other players. Also it was NC himself who brought Cywka and Maguire to Derby and so must have hoped more than any of us that they would have done better by now. It was also Clough who got Commons playing the most games in run without injury and scoring has freely as he did before leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Agree with both sides of the argument to an extent. Dont think Cykwa is anything special but he's better than players who've played a lot more than him. Obviously Clough doesnt like him for what ever reason and i do think he's been unfairly treated in comparison to other players. Clough has always had his favourites and is a stubborn man which is a major flaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nookiebear Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 "even when I used to watch them in the third division the team used to excite me for more than 10% of a game" im 36 so i remember us in the 3rd division(i was only a kid tho) but i have to disagree with you surley you must think the phil brown team was more negative? opinions tho isnt it so maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 It's on DCFC that we want £17.99 for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archram Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 It's on DCFC that we want £17.99 for him Does that include VAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombc Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Does that include VAT? Derby are willing to waive the VAT charge and throw in Lee Croft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydan Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 can buyers play monthly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombc Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 0% APR, buy now pay next year only at DFS Derby County Football Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfb Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 can buyers play monthly and can players buy monthly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Has he gone yet? Clough sid he was choosing between 2 clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Has he gone yet? Clough sid he was choosing between 2 clubs. in fairness you don't know what the two clubs are... could be Darlington and Forest, whilst at Darlington he might not get paid, at least it isn't notts forest 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ph34r:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 He will always be remembered as 'the guy who got subbed at forest'. So for that Tomasz, thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 [size=6]0% APR, buy now pay next year only at DFS Derby County Football Club.[/size] [size=6]And you get a free mobile phone too[/size] 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Has he gone yet? Clough sid he was choosing between 2 clubs. Iron or wood.Probably wood,with irons in the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Iron or wood.Probably wood,with irons in the fire. he is in between atm, the blustry conditions are not helping either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 You forgot about them: Fielding, Legzdins, Brayford, Barker, Shackell, Addison, Green, Bailey, Hendrick, Bryson, Robinson, S. Davies, Ball. The others are utter dross or too young. Ward is only one who can be considered as a good player. You cannot be serious...... http://www.topnews.in/sports/files/john_mcenroe11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Brayford, Bryson, B Davies, Ward, Bailey - I'd all say they are all reasonably creative. I think this team is much better than the one in the 1st division straight after we went down in 2002, and miles better than the team in the early 90's pre Johnson, Short etc - we were dogshite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 you know what i agree with bris to a degree, i do think hes got talent probably more than some people who have had more games. but he just didnt play enough for us for whetever reason..whether it was effort? didnt develop? i dont know but to say that this is the least creative derby team in all his life??? how old are you?? 6?7? I'm 23.. And this is the least creative dcfc team I've ever seen.. Who do we have that's creative? Ward, who occasionally beats his man and puts in a cross.. (I do like Ward, but Tommy Smith was better and he wasn't even our most creative player during both George Burley and Phil Browns reign).. Billy Davies for all his faults had little sparks in Lupoli, Barnes and Jones that is easily more creative than anything we've got.. All of Jim Smiths sides, I won't even go there.. Paul Jewells side.. Barazite, Commons, even Tyrone Mears could create something.. Who else is missing? John Gregory? Colin Todd? Erm we still had Kinkladze, Christie, Lee Morris, Rob Lee.. They were marginally more creative than this lot. So yes I stand by my statement, least creative dcfc I've ever seen.. My general excitement comes from Ward beating a man (I'd say his battles with the RBs this season stands around 60%-40% in his favour) John Brayford crossing the halfway line (this has dropped dramatically since 2010) and Theo Robinson fooling every man and his dog by doing his trademark 'air shot' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I'm 23.. And this is the least creative dcfc team I've ever seen.. Who do we have that's creative? Ward, who occasionally beats his man and puts in a cross.. (I do like Ward, but Tommy Smith was better and he wasn't even our most creative player during both George Burley and Phil Browns reign).. Billy Davies for all his faults had little sparks in Lupoli, Barnes and Jones that is easily more creative than anything we've got.. All of Jim Smiths sides, I won't even go there.. Paul Jewells side.. Barazite, Commons, even Tyrone Mears could create something.. Who else is missing? John Gregory? Colin Todd? Erm we still had Kinkladze, Christie, Lee Morris, Rob Lee.. They were marginally more creative than this lot. So yes I stand by my statement, least creative dcfc I've ever seen.. My general excitement comes from Ward beating a man (I'd say his battles with the RBs this season stands around 60%-40% in his favour) John Brayford crossing the halfway line (this has dropped dramatically since 2010) and Theo Robinson fooling every man and his dog by doing his trademark 'air shot' Rob Lee - creative? Jesus H Christ. I loved the bloke at Derby, but I wouldn't say he was creative. This feels like an argument for arguments sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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