davenportram Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Let's hope Button and Hamilton can put some Pressure on Vettel and he cracks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Also for all those who say it will revitalize f1 like it did for football, My prediction will be, it will end up like county cricket, the rugby and others that compared to the football on sky it will be treated as a second rate sport etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Also for all those who say it will revitalize f1 like it did for football, My prediction will be, it will end up like county cricket, the rugby and others that compared to the football on sky it will be treated as a second rate sport etc. Don't think so, as long as it has a terrestrial TV presence it will always be huge. If the roles were reversed and it was cricket this was happening to you'd barely hear about it. F1 is much more popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 30, 2011 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 Also for all those who say it will revitalize f1 like it did for football, My prediction will be, it will end up like county cricket, the rugby and others that compared to the football on sky it will be treated as a second rate sport etc. F1 doesn't need revitalizing, it's fine as it is. This will kill it. Nobodies arguing that this is a god send.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 F1 going to Sky is a pile of toss. Yes it's only half the races that aren't on free-to-air, but you can guarantee those without Sky will be stuck with the Valencia's and China's of this world, rather than the Monza's and Spa's. The viewership will be less than what it would be on free to air, as such sponsors will pull out, which will mean a lot of the smaller teams' development will be reduced more so than at present, to the extent that they will be content with trundling round hoping to be mid-table at best (sound familiar?). I'm slightly pissed off with the BBC as well. Fair enough they've got to cut costs and one F1 race costs the equivalent of an entire series of Doctor Who to make, but they could surely have negotiated a deal to show just all of the races and maybe even just highlights of qualifying? Practice on Friday's even as a big F1 fan, i'm not particularly bothered about - although David Croft and Anthony Davidson/Karun Chandhok are excellent. I could even live without all the bells and whistles that the BBC coverage currently supplies - just give me the live feed 5 minutes before the start of the race and Martin Brundle on the mic and i'd be happy. Jake Humphrey is a cock anyway. I've not got, nor will I ever get Sky Television so it's going to be MyP2P all the way come next season, hopefully the Murdoch empire won't be too hot on the illegal streams. Very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Great win for Jenson Button in changable conditions at Hungary at his 200th race, Vettel 2nd, Alonso 3rd. Hamilton 4th after a spin and a penalty for nearly causing a collision with fellow Brit Paul di Resta who finished in a career best 7th. PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS The Hungarian Grand Prix The Hungaroring, Hungary; 70 laps; 306.663km; Weather: Mixed conditions. Classified: Pos Driver Team Time 1. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1h43:42.337 2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 3.588 3. Alonso Ferrari + 19.819 4. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 48.338 5. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 49.742 6. Massa Ferrari + 1:17.176 7. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 1 lap 8. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap 9. Rosberg Mercedes + 1 lap 10. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap 11. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap 12. Petrov Renault + 1 lap 13. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 2 laps 14. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 2 laps 15. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 2 laps 16. Maldonado Williams-Cosworth + 2 laps 17. Glock Virgin-Cosworth + 4 laps 18. Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth + 4 laps 19. D'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth + 5 laps 20. Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth + 5 laps Fastest lap: Massa, 1:23.415 Not classified/retirements: Driver Team On lap Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 56 Schumacher Mercedes 27 Heidfeld Renault 24 Trulli Lotus-Renault 18 World Championship standings, round 11: Drivers: Constructors: 1. Vettel 234 1. Red Bull-Renault 383 2. Webber 149 2. McLaren-Mercedes 280 3. Hamilton 146 3. Ferrari 215 4. Alonso 145 4. Mercedes 80 5. Button 134 5. Renault 66 6. Massa 70 6. Sauber-Ferrari 35 7. Rosberg 48 7. Force India-Mercedes 26 8. Heidfeld 34 8. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 22 9. Schumacher 32 9. Williams-Cosworth 4 10. Petrov 32 11. Kobayashi 27 12. Sutil 18 13. Buemi 12 14. Alguersuari 10 15. Di Resta 8 16. Perez 8 17. Barrichello 4 All timing unofficial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Great race, shame Hamilton got it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Glad it's on Sky next year, we can have a nice film on now instead. Most agreeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Glad it's on Sky next year, we can have a nice film on now instead. Most agreeable.Nah mate, it will be Show Jumping, or Eventing, or Hockey, or some other poncy socialite sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Nah mate, it will be Show Jumping, or Eventing, or Hockey, or some other poncy socialite sport One's partial to a spot of Jimkana on a sunday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 if you want all the F1 races without paying skysports, you can do it quite cheaply as the German broadcaster RTL broadcasts the race for free on satellite you just need to buy a new box and dish from B&Q or Aldi and set it up. Saw a deal not long a go for a dish and box for under £50.. Link this up with 5live for english and there you have it! You'll also get this other channel called Sport 1 which has quite a lot of other sport on it for free too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Vettel on pole, Hamilton 2nd after an incident with Maldonado. Schumacher will start 24th in his 20th F1 anniversary after losing a wheel early on. Qualifying Results Saturday, 27 August 2011 Pos Country Driver Car Team Q1 Q2 Q3 1 germany Sebastian Vettel 1 Red Bull-Renault 2:03.029 2:03.317 1:48.298 2 great britain Lewis Hamilton 3 McLaren-Mercedes 2:03.008 2:02.823 1:48.730 3 australia Mark Webber 2 Red Bull-Renault 2:02.827 2:03.302 1:49.376 4 brazil Felipe Massa 6 Ferrari 2:05.834 2:04.507 1:50.256 5 germany Nico Rosberg 8 Mercedes GP 2:05.091 2:03.723 1:50.552 6 spain Jaime Alguersuari 19 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 2:05.419 2:04.561 1:50.773 7 brazil Bruno Senna 9 Renault 2:05.047 2:04.452 1:51.121 8 spain Fernando Alonso 5 Ferrari 2:04.450 2:02.768 1:51.251 9 mexico Sergio Perez 17 Sauber 2:06.284 2:04.625 1:51.374 10 russian federation Vitaly Petrov 10 Renault 2:05.292 2:03.466 1:52.303 11 switzerland Sebastien Buemi 18 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 2:04.744 2:04.692 12 japan Kamui Kobayashi 16 Sauber 2:07.194 2:04.757 13 great britain Jenson Button 4 McLaren-Mercedes 2:01.813 2:05.150 14 brazil Rubens Barrichello 11 Williams-Cosworth 2:05.720 2:07.349 15 germany Adrian Sutil 14 Force India-Mercedes 2:06.000 2:07.777 16 venezuela Pastor Maldonado 12 Williams-Cosworth 2:05.621 2:08.106 17 finland Heikki Kovalainen 20 Lotus-Renault 2:06.780 2:08.354 18 great britain Paul Di Resta 15 Force India-Mercedes 2:07.758 19 italy Jarno Trulli 21 Lotus-Renault 2:08.773 20 germany Timo Glock 24 Virgin-Cosworth 2:09.566 21 belgium Jerome d'Ambrosio 25 Virgin-Cosworth 2:11.601 22 italy Vitantonio Liuzzi 23 Hispania-Cosworth 2:11.616 23 australia Daniel Ricciardo 22 Hispania-Cosworth 2:13.077 24 germany Michael Schumacher 7 Mercedes GP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 if you want all the F1 races without paying skysports, you can do it quite cheaply as the German broadcaster RTL broadcasts the race for free on satellite you just need to buy a new box and dish from B&Q or Aldi and set it up. Saw a deal not long a go for a dish and box for under £50.. Link this up with 5live for english and there you have it! You'll also get this other channel called Sport 1 which has quite a lot of other sport on it for free too. It's on BBC1 HD you plonker:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Vettel wins, Webber 2nd, Button 13th to 3rd, Schumacher 24th to 5th. Hamilton retires after a crash with Kobayashi. PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS The Belgian Grand Prix Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium; 44 laps; 308.052km; Weather: Dry conditions. Classified: Pos Driver Team Time 1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1h26.44.893 2. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 3.741 3. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 9.669 4. Alonso Ferrari + 13.022 5. Schumacher Mercedes + 47.464 6. Rosberg Mercedes + 48.674 7. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 59.713 8. Massa Ferrari + 1m06.076 9. Petrov Renault + 1m11.917 10. Maldonado Williams-Cosworth + 1m17.615 11. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 1m23.994 12. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 1m31.976 13. Senna Renault + 1m32.985 14. Trulli Lotus-Renault + 1 lap 15. Kovalainen Lotus-Renault + 1 lap 16. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 1 lap 17. D'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth + 1 lap 18. Glock Virgin-Cosworth + 1 lap 19. Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth + 1 lap Fastest lap: Massa, 1:23.415 Not classified/retirements: Driver Team On lap Perez Sauber-Ferrari 27 Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 13 Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 12 Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 6 Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1 World Championship standings, round 11: Drivers: Constructors: 1. Vettel 259 1. Red Bull-Renault 426 2. Webber 167 2. McLaren-Mercedes 295 3. Alonso 157 3. Ferrari 231 4. Button 149 4. Mercedes 88 5. Hamilton 146 5. Renault 68 6. Massa 74 6. Sauber-Ferrari 35 7. Rosberg 56 7. Force India-Mercedes 32 8. Schumacher 42 8. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 22 9. Petrov 34 9. Williams-Cosworth 5 10. Heidfeld 34 11. Kobayashi 27 12. Sutil 24 13. Buemi 12 14. Alguersuari 10 15. Di Resta 8 16. Perez 8 17. Barrichello 4 18. Maldonado 1 All timing unofficial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Hamilton can not win, when he hit Button he got the blame because Button had moved over onto the correct line for the corner, so he should have backed off, today he moves over onto the correct line for the corner,but f**king Jordan and Lauda say he was at fault for going across, make your f**king mind up guys for f**ks sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Hamilton can not win, when he hit Button he got the blame because Button had moved over onto the correct line for the corner, so he should have backed off, today he moves over onto the correct line for the corner,but f**king Jordan and Lauda say he was at fault for going across, make your f**king mind up guys for f**ks sake. It's the old "build him up to knock him down" approach mate, especially used when it comes to Hamilton. He's made some stupid errors this year (looking at Monaco in particular) but he's also been extremely unlucky. Yesterday was another prime example, a 50/50 with Koba and he winds up going off. Don't get me started on the incident with Maldonado. The fact that Hamilton received a reprimand for being the victim of some eejit trying to take him off the road says it all. Maldonado should have been taken out of the race for that and now he's attempting to take the moral high ground by saying "He's at it again". Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 It's the old "build him up to knock him down" approach mate, especially used when it comes to Hamilton. He's made some stupid errors this year (looking at Monaco in particular) but he's also been extremely unlucky. Yesterday was another prime example, a 50/50 with Koba and he winds up going off. Don't get me started on the incident with Maldonado. The fact that Hamilton received a reprimand for being the victim of some eejit trying to take him off the road says it all. Maldonado should have been taken out of the race for that and now he's attempting to take the moral high ground by saying "He's at it again". Unreal. As much as I like motor racing, the FIA have been riddled with far-right pillocks (including some pretty serious facists). I find it no coincedence that non-European drivers have never enjoyed the same treatment as white European drivers and Hamilton seems to be targeted beyond belief. Hamilton's been very unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Hamilton has been very gracious about this, admitting it was his fault and he moved over without checking his mirrors - he thought he was past but didn't check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I've read somewhere that he admits he saw him coming from behind. Obviously didn't expect him to try and fit his car inside his. Lots of people suggesting he jinked towards Moldanado, but I can't see it. There's a video on youtube of Hamiltons on board cam, Maldonado just tries to take him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 When Senna did these things everyone loved him. They all rave about Button and his clean driving but when Button passes people he is always in a faster car with better tyres. If all the cars were even Hamilton would win every race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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