Duracell Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 sorry,i dont get it. people get so excited watching a load of rich kids driving in circles.....yet i love watching horses race around a course. Horses aren't as spectacular or as physically demanding, and you don't get the personalities magnified on track, and horses don't sound good. IMO, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Jenson out qualified and out raced Hamilton. I think he will win the race for second place. I'm hoping that Maclaren get a car ready to challenge Red Bull from the start next season, rather than just from half way through the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Jenson out qualified and out raced Hamilton. I think he will win the race for second place. I'm hoping that Maclaren get a car ready to challenge Red Bull from the start next season, rather than just from half way through the season. Doubt it. Red Bull are so far ahead, Newey has already began work on thw 2012 car, a rare luxury for him. Unless he bottles it or McLaren pull on out of the bag, we might be in for some more Vettel domination I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Horses aren't as spectacular or as physically demanding, and you don't get the personalities magnified on track, and horses don't sound good. IMO, of course. so cars have personality? lewis hamilton doesnt have a personality,he just has a massive chip on his shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Vettel on pole in Suzuka by 0.009 secs from Button, Hamilton 3rd. McLaren threw the pole away to be honest The Grid Pos Driver Team Time Gap 1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m30.466s 2. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m30.475s + 0.009 3. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m30.617s + 0.151 4. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m30.804s + 0.338 5. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m30.886s + 0.420 6. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m31.156s + 0.690 7. Michael Schumacher Mercedes No time 8. Bruno Senna Renault No time 9. Vitaly Petrov Renault No time 10. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari No time Q2 cut-off time: 1m32.380s Gap ** 11. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m32.463s + 1.997 12. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m32.746s + 2.280 13. Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1m33.079s + 2.613 14. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1m33.224s + 2.758 15. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m33.227s + 2.761 16. Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m33.427s + 2.961 17. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari No time Q1 cut-off time: 1m35.111s Gap * 18. Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1m35.454s + 2.828 19. Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1m35.514s + 2.888 20. Jerome D'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1m36.439s + 3.813 21. Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1m36.507s + 3.881 22. Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 1m37.846s + 5.220 23. Nico Rosberg Mercedes No time 24. Tonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth No time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Jenson Button win the Japnese GP brillantly, Alonso 2nd, Vettel 3rd to win his second title. PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS The Japanese Grand Prix Suzuka, Japan; 53 laps; 307.573km; Weather: Sunny. Classified: Pos Driver Team Time 1. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1h30:53.427 2. Alonso Ferrari + 1.160 3. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 2.006 4. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 8.071 5. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 24.268 6. Schumacher Mercedes + 27.120 7. Massa Ferrari + 28.240 8. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 39.377 9. Petrov Renault + 42.607 10. Rosberg Mercedes + 44.322 11. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 54.447 12. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 1:02.326 13. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 1:03.705 14. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1:04.194 15. Maldonado Williams-Cosworth + 1:06.623 16. Senna Renault + 1:12.628 17. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 1:14.191 18. Kovalainen Lotus-Renault + 1:27.824 19. Trulli Lotus-Renault + 1:36.140 20. Glock Virgin-Cosworth + 2 laps 21. D'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth + 2 laps 22. Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps 23. Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps Fastest lap: Button, 1:36.568 Not classified/retirements: Driver Team On lap Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 35 World Championship standings, round 15: Drivers: Constructors: 1. Vettel 324 1. Red Bull-Renault 518 2. Button 210 2. McLaren-Mercedes 388 3. Alonso 202 3. Ferrari 292 4. Webber 194 4. Mercedes 123 5. Hamilton 178 5. Renault 72 6. Massa 90 6. Force India-Mercedes 48 7. Rosberg 63 7. Sauber-Ferrari 40 8. Schumacher 60 8. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 29 9. Petrov 36 9. Williams-Cosworth 5 10. Heidfeld 34 11. Sutil 28 12. Kobayashi 27 13. Di Resta 20 14. Alguersuari 16 15. Buemi 13 16. Perez 13 17. Barrichello 4 18. Senna 2 19. Maldonado 1 All timing unofficial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Just woke up, looked at Twitter and BOOM the result was there. Forgot about the time difference, I'm guessing a re-run is on at 1pm, worth watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I didn't think it was a great race to be honest. Pleased Button won, looks like he might be the first teammate to finish ahead of Hamilton. Wonder if that's why Hamilton hasn't extended his contract - doesn't want to be second driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 so cars have personality? lewis hamilton doesnt have a personality,he just has a massive chip on his shoulder. I think he was referring to the drivers... OK race, no really spectacular passes, which is understandable I suppose given it's a very narrow track by today's standards, although Webber up the inside into 130R was pretty cool. Was a bit of a hark back to the early noughties with the race being decided by pit stops more than on track passes. Loved Button's line to Vettel before the podium - "so that's how we're racing now?". Anyone who doubts the fitness of the drivers is simply ignorant to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Looks like McLaren have the fastest car now, Hamilton pole, Vettel 2nd, Button 3rd. Starting Grid Sunday, 16 October 2011 Position Country Driver Car number Team Qualifying time 1 GB Lewis Hamilton 3 McLaren-Mercedes 1:35.820 2 Ger Sebastian Vettel 1 Red Bull-Renault 1:36.042 3 GB Jenson Button 4 McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.126 4 Aus Mark Webber 2 Red Bull-Renault 1:36.468 5 Brz Felipe Massa 6 Ferrari 1:36.831 6 Spa Fernando Alonso 5 Ferrari 1:36.980 7 Ger Nico Rosberg 8 Mercedes GP 1:37.754 8 Rus Vitaly Petrov 10 Renault 1:38.124 9 GB Paul Di Resta 15 Force India-Mercedes 1:38.254 10 Ger Adrian Sutil 14 Force India-Mercedes 1:38.219 11 Spa Jaime Alguersuari 19 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:38.315 12 Ger Michael Schumacher 7 Mercedes GP 1:38.354 13 Swi Sebastien Buemi 18 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:38.508 14 Jpn Kamui Kobayashi 16 Sauber 1:38.775 15 Brz Bruno Senna 9 Renault 1:38.791 16 Ven Pastor Maldonado 12 Williams-Cosworth 1:39.189 17 Mex Sergio Perez 17 Sauber 1:39.443 18 Brz Rubens Barrichello 11 Williams-Cosworth 1:39.538 19 Fin Heikki Kovalainen 20 Lotus-Renault 1:40.522 20 Ita Jarno Trulli 21 Lotus-Renault 1:41.101 21 Ger Timo Glock 24 Virgin-Cosworth 1:42.091 22 Bel Jerome d'Ambrosio 25 Virgin-Cosworth 1:43.483 23 Ita Vitantonio Liuzzi 23 Hispania-Cosworth 1:43.758 24 Aus Daniel Ricciardo 22 Hispania-Cosworth No time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Hamilton quite a bit faster than Button then. Personally I hope Button gets another win, the battle for top Mclaren will be interesting in the run in. Hamilton hasn't been beaten by his teammate in F1 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Vettel took the lead off Hamilton on lap 1 and never looked like losing it, Hamilton just holds off Webber, Button and Alonso in the end for 2nd. Red Bull win the Constructors Championship. PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS The Korean Grand Prix Korea Auto Valley, Yongam, Korea; 55 laps; 305.909km; Weather: Dry. Classified: Pos Driver Team Time 1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1h30:01.994 2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 12.019 3. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 12.477 4. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 14.694 5. Alonso Ferrari + 15.689 6. Massa Ferrari + 25.133 7. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 49.538 8. Rosberg Mercedes + 54.053 9. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1:02.762 10. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 1:08.602 11. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 1:11.229 12. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 1:33.068 13. Senna Renault + 1 lap 14. Kovalainen Lotus-Renault + 1 lap 15. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap 16. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap 17. Trulli Lotus-Renault + 1 lap 18. Glock Virgin-Cosworth + 1 lap 19. Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth + 1 lap 20. D'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth + 1 lap 21. Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth + 3 laps Fastest lap: Vettel, 1:39.605 Not classified/retirements: Driver Team On lap Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 31 Petrov Renault 17 Schumacher Mercedes 16 World Championship standings, round 16: Drivers: Constructors: 1. Vettel 349 1. Red Bull-Renault 558 2. Button 222 2. McLaren-Mercedes 418 3. Alonso 212 3. Ferrari 310 4. Webber 209 4. Mercedes 127 5. Hamilton 196 5. Renault 72 6. Massa 98 6. Force India-Mercedes 49 7. Rosberg 67 7. Sauber-Ferrari 40 8. Schumacher 60 8. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 37 9. Petrov 36 9. Williams-Cosworth 5 10. Heidfeld 34 11. Sutil 28 12. Kobayashi 27 13. Alguersuari 22 14. Di Resta 21 15. Buemi 15 16. Perez 13 17. Barrichello 4 18. Senna 2 19. Maldonado 1 All timing unofficial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 The worst race of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 The worst race of the season Agreed. It somehow managed to be worse than Valencia. Oh well 2/16 isn't a bad ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Vettel wins, Button 2nd, Alonso 3rd. Hamilton 7th and collides with Massa again, but this time Massa gets the penalty. Boring race in truth. Results Pos Driver Team Time 1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1h30:35.002 2. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 8.433 3. Alonso Ferrari + 24.301 4. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 25.529 5. Schumacher Mercedes + 1:05.421 6. Rosberg Mercedes + 1:06.851 7. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 1:24.183 8. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap 9. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 1 lap 10. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap 11. Petrov Renault + 1 lap 12. Senna Renault + 1 lap 13. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 1 lap 14. Kovalainen Lotus-Renault + 2 laps 15. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 2 laps 16. D'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth + 2 laps 17. Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth + 3 laps 18. Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth + 3 laps 19. Trulli Lotus-Renault + 4 laps Fastest lap: Vettel, 1:27.457 Not classified/retirements: Driver Team On lap Massa Ferrari 33 Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 25 Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 13 Glock Virgin-Cosworth 3 Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1 World Championship standings, round 17: Drivers: Constructors: 1. Vettel 374 1. Red Bull-Renault 595 2. Button 240 2. McLaren-Mercedes 442 3. Alonso 227 3. Ferrari 325 4. Webber 221 4. Mercedes 145 5. Hamilton 202 5. Renault 72 6. Massa 98 6. Force India-Mercedes 51 7. Rosberg 75 7. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 41 8. Schumacher 70 8. Sauber-Ferrari 41 9. Petrov 36 9. Williams-Cosworth 5 10. Heidfeld 34 11. Sutil 30 12. Kobayashi 27 13. Alguersuari 26 14. Di Resta 21 15. Buemi 15 16. Perez 14 17. Barrichello 4 18. Senna 2 19. Maldonado 1 All timing unofficial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Dull race at an even more dull circuit. Tilke is such a n0b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Dull race. But the last few races proves that Vettel is the best driver. Not much in the performance of webber, Alonso, Massa and Hamilton in terms of pace of cars. Vettel is getting a lot more out of the red bull than Webber Button is getting more out of the Mclaren than Hamilton - at least during the race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 What a ***** circuit. Tilke fails - again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Would like to see a competition wherin it was just a constructors championship, two drvers per constructor, but they only drive their own car once in a season, and in all the other races they have to driver another makers car. The constructers would still get the same prize money, but the drivers would be paid on their finishing position, see how good they are then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Hamilton wins Alonso 2nd, Button 3rd after KERS issues, Vettel retires after a first corner puncture. DRS runied the race TBH. The Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Yas Marina, United Arab Emirates; 55 laps; 305.355km; Weather: Clear. Classified: Pos Driver Team Time 1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1h37:11.886 2. Alonso Ferrari + 8.457 3. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 25.881 4. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 35.784 5. Massa Ferrari + 50.578 6. Rosberg Mercedes + 52.317 7. Schumacher Mercedes + 1:15.900 8. Sutil Force India-Mercedes + 1:17.100 9. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 1:40.000 10. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap 11. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap 12. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 1 lap 13. Petrov Renault + 1 lap 14. Maldonado Williams-Cosworth + 1 lap 15. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap 16. Senna Renault + 1 lap 17. Kovalainen Lotus-Renault + 1 lap 18. Trulli Lotus-Renault + 2 laps 19. Glock Virgin-Cosworth + 2 laps 20. Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps Fastest lap: Webber, 1:42.612 Not classified/retirements: Driver Team On lap Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 49 Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 19 D'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 18 Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1 World Championship standings, round 18: Drivers: Constructors: 1. Vettel 374 1. Red Bull-Renault 607 2. Button 255 2. McLaren-Mercedes 482 3. Alonso 245 3. Ferrari 353 4. Webber 233 4. Mercedes 159 5. Hamilton 227 5. Renault 72 6. Massa 108 6. Force India-Mercedes 57 7. Rosberg 83 7. Sauber-Ferrari 42 8. Schumacher 76 8. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 41 9. Petrov 36 9. Williams-Cosworth 5 10. Sutil 34 11. Heidfeld 34 12. Kobayashi 28 13. Alguersuari 26 14. Di Resta 23 15. Buemi 15 16. Perez 14 17. Barrichello 4 18. Senna 2 19. Maldonado 1 All timing unofficial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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