8Leeds Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 24 minutes ago, Dryhorce said: £20 000 in the championship isn't a lot of money smaller teams than us can pay it And just cos I've knowledge about Rangers doesn't mean im not a Derby fan I pay attention to what is happening at every club and every league angieram and Ram@Lincoln 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 16 minutes ago, 8Leeds said: My whole point was getting a few or £4 or 5 a week down from Scotland would mean there could be two or three on the £20 000 mark,and we still can keep a decent sized competetive squad And remember that a lot of players will be leaving most on more than £4 grand the wage bill goes up when we go up Club can earn £8.8 million from just staying in the championship might go to paying debts But this is were transfer trading has to be right to solid low ball low risk signings that can be sold on if they do well Edited March 13 by Dryhorce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 @Dryhorce you're nothing if not prolific, the problem being I've already forgotten the initial suggestions what with the subsequent barrage of alternatives. Maybe a focus on quality over quantity might better serve your purposes and those of the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Comrade 86 said: @Dryhorce you're nothing if not prolific, the problem being I've already forgotten the initial suggestions what with the subsequent barrage of alternatives. Maybe a focus on quality over quantity might better serve your purposes and those of the thread? Every player that I've suggested is quality Suggest you watch Dundee v Aberdeen tonight Barron up again Mulligan and Cameron and Beck will be playing to Warnock also quite liked the big boy McKenzie for Aberdeen there left back Edited March 13 by Dryhorce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 7 minutes ago, Dryhorce said: Every player that I've suggested is quality Suggest you watch Dundee v Aberdeen tonight Barron up again Mulligan and Cameron and Beck will be playing to Warnock also quite liked the big boy McKenzie for Aberdeen there left back You're not really taking onboard what folk are saying, are you? I've not commented on the validity of your suggestions, JUST THE FOOKIN VOLUME! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, Comrade 86 said: You're not really taking onboard what folk are saying, are you? I've not commented on the validity of your suggestions, JUST THE FOOKIN VOLUME! 😂 Haven't even got started yet but these are all ones that have caught my eye and young ones that potentially we could make money on understand there won't be a lot of money around So getting there best free transfers is a no brainer Strain and Baccus play for Australia there full ints and are at a age were they could be sold on in a year or two for clean profit same with wee Barron Dundee don't have a lot of cash Beck.is on loan from Liverpool he is probably the best left back in Scotland just now who would imagine the Welsh clubs would want even on loan Cameron and Mulligan as a pair not sure how much they would want half a million each possibly depending on what they got left on there deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) Some player haven't checked to see if he is in the Wales squad yet Update turns out he hasn't kast in against Gibraltar in 2023 Edited March 13 by Dryhorce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 20 minutes ago, Dryhorce said: Haven't even got started yet Wow. This is the point at which I hit the ignore button I'm afraid 😂 angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram@Lincoln Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 You might have forgotten, but recently we had a little financial strain. This came following a number of years chucking good money after bad. I'm sure DC hasn't forgotten this and will be eager not to return to those days. Sure, the EFL restrictions/business plan will be a thing of the past in the summer but that doesn't mean a blank chequebook. We've had the sunk cost fallacy of MM and now the sustainable and responsible management by DC. Taking untested Scottish based players on £4/5k per week and skyrocketing them to £20k just won't be a thing that we'll do. I'm sure that Bryson and Russell when they moved down didn't 4-5x their salaries overnight. Things like that are exactly why we find ourselves in League One and not the Championship or higher. The annual 1st team wage cost last season we now know was £7.3m, we know it's about a third higher this year (45% turnover) so lets call it a nice £10m for rounded sake. Assuming 25 players per first team squad, last year we ran an average of circa £5.5k, whereas this year we're around £7.5k. Obviously average, so some will be more, some will be less. Even if we say a 25% rise for promotion, that's going to £9.375k as a average. Taking any player and putting them on £20k, let alone a number of untested Scottish based ones, simply won't happen. 1 hour ago, Dryhorce said: My whole point was getting a few or £4 or 5 a week down from Scotland would mean there could be two or three on the £20 000 mark,and we still can keep a decent sized competetive squad And remember that a lot of players will be leaving most on more than £4 grand the wage bill goes up when we go up Club can earn £8.8 million from just staying in the championship might go to paying debts But this is were transfer trading has to be right to solid low ball low risk signings that can be sold on if they do well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Ram@Lincoln said: You might have forgotten, but recently we had a little financial strain. This came following a number of years chucking good money after bad. I'm sure DC hasn't forgotten this and will be eager not to return to those days. Sure, the EFL restrictions/business plan will be a thing of the past in the summer but that doesn't mean a blank chequebook. We've had the sunk cost fallacy of MM and now the sustainable and responsible management by DC. Taking untested Scottish based players on £4/5k per week and skyrocketing them to £20k just won't be a thing that we'll do. I'm sure that Bryson and Russell when they moved down didn't 4-5x their salaries overnight. Things like that are exactly why we find ourselves in League One and not the Championship or higher. The annual 1st team wage cost last season we now know was £7.3m, we know it's about a third higher this year (45% turnover) so lets call it a nice £10m for rounded sake. Assuming 25 players per first team squad, last year we ran an average of circa £5.5k, whereas this year we're around £7.5k. Obviously average, so some will be more, some will be less. Even if we say a 25% rise for promotion, that's going to £9.375k as a average. Taking any player and putting them on £20k, let alone a number of untested Scottish based ones, simply won't happen. Sorry fella read above already spoken about paying back debt if we survive in the championship Not once have I said take Scottish players on 4 or 5 grand and give them £20 000 Was talking about giving MacKenna and Worrell £20 000 if we could get them and they would play for it and maybe Allah Campbell for £18 000 three players who have went up Players in Scotland aren't getting £4 000 that is what we would be paying them there getting £1 000 £1 700 £2 000 at there clubs So you talk about untested in the championship so tell me the difference in playing for you Country to playing for derby in the championship? I take it you didn't watch Baccus and Steain against England? Barron is excellent in the Scotland U21 team and has experience in Europe with Aberdeen Are you saying the championship is gonna be harder than playing in European competition to? Mate have a think about it and get back to me about it Barron was in the team that beat the team that beat Rangers in Zthe Europa final Aberdeen 2 Eintract 0 Connor Barron wouldn't have any issues in our team or any other in the championship but he might move higher Barron free Baccus free Strain free Beck loan McKenna free Where is the blank cheque? Edited March 13 by Dryhorce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I'll qualify this for you Tony Ralston £14 000 a week Celtic Stephen Welsh £8.500 a week Celtic Lewis Mayo £2 000 a week at Killie Owen Beck £2.800 a week Dundee Josh Mulligan £360 a week Dundee Lyall Cameron £340 a week Dundee Connor Barron £880 a week Aberdeen Keanu Baccus £2 000 at St Mirren Ryan Strain £1.700 a week at St Mirren Liam Kelly £4.000 a week Motherwell Theo Bair £600 a week Motherwell John Souttar £8.100 a week Rangers Might mist a few out that I've spoken about but it shows you out with Ralston on this list our players earn significantly more even ones out the academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Won't lie, i've started checking in on this thread just to see how this whole saga pans out 😂 TomTom92, Caerphilly Ram, Grimbeard and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 16 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: Won't lie, i've started checking in on this thread just to see how this whole saga pans out 😂 The way I see it, there will never be the need for another Independence Referendum because every Scottish person will have moved to Derby. Comrade 86, angieram, Anon and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: The way I see it, there will never be the need for another Independence Referendum because every Scottish person will have moved to Derby. Best Derby team was full of Scots back in the day and when our club declined so did the Scotland team when all the terrible foreign players came and okay some good foreign.players did to but so did a lot of bad ones Decline of Derby and Scottish football isn't a coincidence but it isn't like that anymore if Seria A teams in Italy shop in the Scottish market,then so should the traditional English clubs that got success with there players like we once did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Me reading any of Dryhorce's suggestions: TF Ram, roboto, Caerphilly Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 21 minutes ago, Dryhorce said: Best Derby team was full of Scots back in the day and when our club declined so did the Scotland team when all the terrible foreign players came and okay some good foreign.players did to but so did a lot of bad ones Decline of Derby and Scottish football isn't a coincidence but it isn't like that anymore if Seria A teams in Italy shop in the Scottish market,then so should the traditional English clubs that got success with there players like we once did Bob Malcolm and Conor Sammon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Please put the Buckfast down and step away from the computer for a while. Give us all some time to recover from the onslaught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Bob Malcolm and Conor Sammon? Obviously not lol was talking about in the seventies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 https://www.teamtalk.com/news/liverpool-transfer-exclusive-battle-wolves-scottish-talent-jamie-hamilton Great to see this guy back playing and being loyal to his club that saw him through a terrible injury spell I can see him getting a better move when his deals up start of the season still 22 could be a shrewd move if he can prove his fitness very good player from a team with a history of bringing through top talent Even if he is just playing in League One just now it's still games every week and getting stronger to see were he will be for pre season somewhere possible a SPFL club maybe England or abroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryhorce Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/Everton-eyeing-Scottish-starlet-Jamie-Hamilton/1844603 Mentions us about Hamilton here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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