Guest Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 hours ago, jimtastic56 said: Before we signed Wilson , I read that he had an injury that he will have to manage for the whole of his career. In that case , how did he pass a medical? NML will now have to go back on his wing , perhaps till Xmas. But we know from last season - he struggles with 2 games a week and he hasn’t had a rest this summer. And I can lose the sense of agitation I have when he shows up anywhere else, looking quite lost... I take your point about Wilson being a potential risk but wouldn't your logic imply that no team should ever sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 hours ago, jameso said: And I can lose the sense of agitation I have when he shows up anywhere else, looking quite lost... I take your point about Wilson being a potential risk but wouldn't your logic imply that no team should ever sign him? Looking at old newspaper articles - Wilson was out for more than 4 months at Bristol , after knee surgery. He never seemed to get fit enough for Pearson’s liking. Strange now that Roberts and Knight are now with Pearson. We are also missing McGoldrick , Osula and Dobbin up front, Curtis and Stearman at the back. Are we a stronger outfit this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: Looking at old newspaper articles - Wilson was out for more than 4 months at Bristol , after knee surgery. He never seemed to get fit enough for Pearson’s liking. Strange now that Roberts and Knight are now with Pearson. We are also missing McGoldrick , Osula and Dobbin up front, Curtis and Stearman at the back. Are we a stronger outfit this season? True but hopefully that works to our advantage because if he'd stayed injury-free and fulfilled at least some of his potential at Bristol City, he wouldn't be with us, and we've seen some promising signs... if he can stay injury-free with us of course! Hard to answer whether we're a stronger outfit. Some incomings haven't made the impact we'd have hoped so far, for various reasons. Some outgoings we would have liked to keep. The team isn't playing as well as it did during some of last season (not the ending, particularly). I would like to think we have better personnel on the whole... when fully fit. But better players doesn't necessarily make a more successful team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just now, jameso said: True but hopefully that works to our advantage because if he'd stayed injury-free and fulfilled at least some of his potential at Bristol City, he wouldn't be with us, and we've seen some promising signs... if he can stay injury-free with us of course! It's too soon to tell but really all we've seen so far is pace and some awful step-overs, not sure he's managed a decent cross? He looked awfully unfit when he came on as well. I just am not convinced that one of our youngsters couldn't run around as quickly and as aimlessly. There must be more to come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: It's too soon to tell but really all we've seen so far is pace and some awful step-overs, not sure he's managed a decent cross? He looked awfully unfit when he came on as well. I just am not convinced that one of our youngsters couldn't run around as quickly and as aimlessly. There must be more to come? Yes I think he is unfit, and PW has said as much. I think he managed one decent cross but don't ask me to produce my evidence 🤣 I have been mostly encouraged by his directness... and highlight reels for other teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Of course we are a lot weaker this season so far based on losing McGoldrick, Knight and Roberts. Elder & Bradley look way off good enough and we have no guile or pace up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Magicman said: Of course we are a lot weaker this season so far based on losing McGoldrick, Knight and Roberts. Elder & Bradley look way off good enough and we have no guile or pace up front. And Dobbin Magicman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Go through the team and you can see it’s not a top three team I’d even say it will just about scrape the play offs maybe. The strike force isn’t neither is the midfield 3. The back line if they cut out the silly mistakes and gel could potentially be there jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 21/08/2023 at 17:27, Tamworthram said: Did he say he wasn't responsible? I do think some people are reading too much into this quote. He could have meant we haven't yet got all the personnel or he could have meant the current squad aren't yet playing to their full potential. If it's the latter, after each poor game I'm pretty sure he's said he takes some responsibility. Maybe give PW the benefit of doubt and say the comment was ambiguous. Either way, it certainly wouldn't be perceived as being motivational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 9 hours ago, europia said: Maybe give PW the benefit of doubt and say the comment was ambiguous. Either way, it certainly wouldn't be perceived as being motivational. Sometimes the truth is more valuable than false motivational talk (The one that always amuses me is fallacy that you can achieve anything if you put your mind to it). Maybe he should have qualified it (perhaps he does when speaking to the players) and added something like “we just need x new players to strengthen the squad” or “we all just need to raise our game to the levels I believe we can achieve”. I may be wrong (there’s little evidence at the moment to suggest I may be right) but I suspect, when speaking directly to the players, he is quite motivational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Based on last weekend's results, neither are Bolton or Posh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Tamworthram said: Sometimes the truth is more valuable than false motivational talk (The one that always amuses me is fallacy that you can achieve anything if you put your mind to it). Maybe he should have qualified it (perhaps he does when speaking to the players) and added something like “we just need x new players to strengthen the squad” or “we all just need to raise our game to the levels I believe we can achieve”. I may be wrong (there’s little evidence at the moment to suggest I may be right) but I suspect, when speaking directly to the players, he is quite motivational. Sometimes the truth is more valuable than false motivational talk (The one that always amuses me is fallacy that you can achieve anything if you put your mind to it). A key tool in any manager's toolbox is the ability to motivate players to help them reach their maximum potential, while realising what their maximum is and without expecting them to achieve the impossible. If the manager identifies those parameters correctly, the player, if he puts his mind to it, can achieve, at times, the manager's highest expectation of him. If a manager ever really resorts to false motivational talk, perhaps he shouldn't have been appointed in the first place. The most successful managers in the history of the game were good motivators and/or assisted by a good motivator(s). perhaps he does when speaking to the players. And perhaps he doesn't or maybe he sends them a text in the middle of the night? Who knows? I may be wrong (there’s little evidence at the moment to suggest I may be right) but I suspect, when speaking directly to the players, he is quite motivational. I agree you may be wrong and there's little evidence to suggest you are right but having reached that conclusion, where is the evidence you have to immediately contradict yourself to conclude that you suspect he is quite motivational? I feel that I've just read a riddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: Sometimes the truth is more valuable than false motivational talk (The one that always amuses me is fallacy that you can achieve anything if you put your mind to it). A key tool in any manager's toolbox is the ability to motivate players to help them reach their maximum potential, while realising what their maximum is and without expecting them to achieve the impossible. If the manager identifies those parameters correctly, the player, if he puts his mind to it, can achieve, at times, the manager's highest expectation of him. If a manager ever really resorts to false motivational talk, perhaps he shouldn't have been appointed in the first place. The most successful managers in the history of the game were good motivators and/or assisted by a good motivator(s). perhaps he does when speaking to the players. And perhaps he doesn't or maybe he sends them a text in the middle of the night? Who knows? I may be wrong (there’s little evidence at the moment to suggest I may be right) but I suspect, when speaking directly to the players, he is quite motivational. I agree you may be wrong and there's little evidence to suggest you are right but having reached that conclusion, where is the evidence you have to immediately contradict yourself to conclude that you suspect he is quite motivational? I feel that I've just read a riddle. Good for you. Once again, I’m pleased if my posts have satisfied or amused you. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Good for you. Once again, I’m pleased if my posts have satisfied or amused you. 😀 Satisfied? That's a gross overstatement. Amused? No, I think the word you are looking for is bemused or confused or was that an auto-text error? 😂. Edited August 23, 2023 by Brailsford Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: Satisfied? That's a gross overstatement. Amused? No, I think the word you are looking for is bemused or confused or was that an auto-text error? 😂. I'm pleased if my posts have bemused or confused you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: I'm pleased if my posts have bemused or confused you. Rest assured then that you can feel pleased most days. I'm sure it'll contribute to a much happier life for you. Glad to have done my good deed for the day 😂. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Brailsford Ram said: Rest assured then that you can feel pleased most days. I'm sure it'll contribute to a much happier life for you. Glad to have done my good deed for the day 😂. Wow condescending or what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Curtains said: Wow condescending or what It's called gratitude David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: It's called gratitude David. Ha ha really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: Rest assured then that you can feel pleased most days. I'm sure it'll contribute to a much happier life for you. Glad to have done my good deed for the day 😂. I'm pleases you're pleased. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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