Curtains Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: I guess you know him personally then to make such a comment. No I don’t. . He was a Littleover lad and so was I although I was born in Chaddesden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, Curtains said: Oh yes the history books will say . Hey we used to have a Football Team that played there but Derby City Council let it fold What utter rubbish,how do you come to the conclusion that Derby City Council let it fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, Curtains said: The City Council need to step in and save the club . Whats happened to them after all their noise and good intentions and what’s happened to the MPs ! It took them 2 years to build a footbridge over the 52- don’t expect them to move at speed. I am Ram, Rammy03 and Abu Derby 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: What, even if a Phoenix club is created and somehow manages to keep playing it’s home games at PP? I hate what Mel has allowed to happen at Derby but I am not vindictive enough to refuse to attend PP. If a Phoenix club was created, where it plays it’s home games is quite a dilemma. Obviously to stay in Derby would be preferable as we are a Derby club and I think we’d lose a lot of fans in we ground shared at somewhere like Notts County. Many of us have pledged to keep supporting Derby regardless and, whilst no doubt we’d lose a few, I doubt the Pirelli would be big enough. Obviously the cost would very likely be prohibitive but, unlike Curtains, my preference would be to remain at PP. Sadly though, it would all come down to predicted attendances v costs. I suspect costs would win. I think you misunderstood me . Im talking if Mel doesn’t give the Stadium back and we fold I will never set foot in Pride Park area again . If the City Council don’t help they should also be held responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Curtains said: The City Council need to step in and save the club . Whats happened to them after all their noise and good intentions and what’s happened to the MPs ! The days of councils owning let alone buying a football ground these days is a thing of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, atherstoneram said: The days of councils owning let alone buying a football ground these days is a thing of the past. I said help to save the club not buy it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, Curtains said: Nothing. No one would want it . It would be tainted I don`t think for a minute that MM doesn`t know what the residual value is in the worst case scenario. I think he has full clarity of the various scenarios and what his options might be. I also read in an article somewhere, that under EFL rules on exiting administration via a new owner, they have to guarantee use of a Stadium for 10 years. I can`t for the life of me remember where I read it or find it again. But if that is the case, that would strengthen MM hand in the situation, particularly if he has a back up plan for re-development. I guess what I`m trying to say is that as has been hinted at by Kirchner and other reports, the Stadium issue is very complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: The days of councils owning let alone buying a football ground these days is a thing of the past. More likely to be concerned about further funding cuts if HMRC don`t get their wedge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 10 hours ago, Rev said: That article states he didn't take a penny of that profit, in either dividend or interest repayments on his loans, which were interest free. Yes but if the clubs been making profits for those 10 years he isn't subsidising losses of £15 million every year either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Curtains said: I said help to save the club not buy it . And how can they help save the club,i would imagine by monetary assistance,councils can't afford to maintain basic requirements nowadays without getting involved with a football club draining it of much needed resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, BobdeBilder said: I thought I read somewhere that the city council would not allow the land to be redeveloped for any other purpose? I hope that`s never put to the test, but I wouldn`t believe it for 1 minute if the worst happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: And how can they help save the club,i would imagine by monetary assistance,councils can't afford to maintain basic requirements nowadays without getting involved with a football club draining it of much needed resources. Well you are better off than Nuneaton in your posh bit lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Datdo-Dishes Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Mucker1884 said: I have to say I don't think things are that bad. I reckon urine a minority. I bet you a Tena he isn't Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, Curtains said: I tell you this if this club folds I will never set foot on the Pride Park area again . Duck um all . Not playing Candy Crush again would be more of a protest....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Just now, RipleyRich said: Not playing Candy Crush again would be more of a protest....... He doesn’t own Candy Crush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Curtains said: Well you are better off than Nuneaton in your posh bit lol You have obviously never been to Atherstone then i take it? BramcoteRam84 and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, RipleyRich said: Just to put the record straight, just because I don`t have a season ticket at Pride Park, it doesn`t make me a Derby Hater. I have far too many connections to the club, and have a level of affection for a club that has given me a lot of happy memories. I am also a football fan and understand the hurt that the true fans are feeling. It`s a God awful situation, created by one man and I am genuinely concerned for the future of the club. But, as I have a good degree less emotional attachment to the club than most on here, I can stand back and look at things in a slightly different way. I bloody well hope my fears and concerns are proved wrong. By the way - nice choice of soundtrack! So you are not a Derby fan or you would say so? The post you replied to said your were a Forest fan. I note you dont say you arent, just that you dont hate Derby. I just dont understand why someone would sign up to comment on a FANS forum this week to suddenly post about things we've all been discussing for months and worrying about for months when not a Derby fan? Why? You seem to think you have some major insight noone else has. To be blunt you really really dont. The tone of you posts is patronising - if you had bothered to read many of these threads you would see a vast range of experience and financial expertise which has provided a great insight into what is going on and has for a long time. in addition, the manner of your posts shows a distinct lack of empathy for those on here really struggling with things and this is really affecting people - some need to feel a bit more optimistic to get through it and why not. As most on here are totally familiar with Derby's position your insights and ability " to look at things in a different way" which you may have mentioned a few times may be more at use on a Chelski forum where they are new to all of this and may need a helping hand with it all. Rev, Curtains, Foreveram and 12 others 6 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Just now, atherstoneram said: You have obviously never been to Atherstone then i take it? Oh yes I have . Near Tamworth mate. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 40 minutes ago, RipleyRich said: Well a simple calculation on those numbers is £3m profit, then there is the land that he "removed" from Club ownership and is now developing. Plus god knows what other monies he generated via interest, Director payments and fees etc etc. Mike Ashley will not have lost any cash as a result of his tenure at Newcastle. He made £5.5m from the land: https://www.themag.co.uk/2021/07/mike-ashley-made-5-5m-personal-profit-from-selling-nufc-land-new-accounts-published-newcastle-united/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: Oh yes I have . Near Tamworth mate. . I just wondered out how you worked it out it was posh lol. I must have missed that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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