RoyMac5 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, maxjam said: Study; https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.28.21264260v2 Less nerdy article about the study; https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y “But the results also offer the “intriguing possibility that if you do run a booster campaign because you want to protect individuals, it may also have this effect of reducing transmission,” says Eyre.” PS “The study has not yet been peer reviewed.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: 50% efficacy is fairly good for most vaccines? (Sorry losing cognitive functions as have been drinking ? ) I'm not saying anything about efficacy. Just if it is 90% in the beginning, and 50% after 4-5 months it's still worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, GboroRam said: I'm not saying anything about efficacy. Just if it is 90% in the beginning, and 50% after 4-5 months it's still worthwhile. Definitely. Just pointing out that the covid vaccines are already well ahead of most others to begin with. ?? GboroRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: “But the results also offer the “intriguing possibility that if you do run a booster campaign because you want to protect individuals, it may also have this effect of reducing transmission,” says Eyre.” Yes thats what the study concludes... Effectiveness against transmission reduces to that similar of an unvaccinated person after 12 weeks and recommends a booster campaign. Both things I have said several times in this thread recently. Not quite sure why I keep being picked up on it tbh. Not one person has bothered to question the tweets posted by @jimmyp on page 252?!? 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: PS “The study has not yet been peer reviewed.” The study was funded by the Govt, undertaken by Oxford Uni and is currently under peer review. I recall reading a couple of articles about it in medical journals when I researched it a while back and its interesting now that Boris Johnson has come out and said the vaccines don't protect against transmission so its probably only a matter of time - but thats pure conjecture on my part. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/what-unrefereed-preprint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, maxjam said: Yes thats what the study concludes... Effectiveness against transmission reduces to that similar of an unvaccinated person after 12 weeks and recommends a booster campaign. Both things I have said several times in this thread recently. Not quite sure why I keep being picked up on it tbh. Not one person has bothered to question the tweets posted by @jimmyp on page 252?!? The study was funded by the Govt, undertaken by Oxford Uni and is currently under peer review. I recall reading a couple of articles about it in medical journals when I researched it a while back and its interesting now that Boris Johnson has come out and said the vaccines don't protect against transmission so its probably only a matter of time - but thats pure conjecture on my part. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/what-unrefereed-preprint Yeah whatever. What’s your point? You not having a vaccine? Or a booster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yeah whatever. You asked, I answered. You are very welcome ? Norman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, maxjam said: You asked, I answered. You are very welcome ? I know I am, but again what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, maxjam said: Yes thats what the study concludes... Effectiveness against transmission reduces to that similar of an unvaccinated person after 12 weeks and recommends a booster campaign. Both things I have said several times in this thread recently. Not quite sure why I keep being picked up on it tbh. Not one person has bothered to question the tweets posted by @jimmyp on page 252?!? The study was funded by the Govt, undertaken by Oxford Uni and is currently under peer review. I recall reading a couple of articles about it in medical journals when I researched it a while back and its interesting now that Boris Johnson has come out and said the vaccines don't protect against transmission so its probably only a matter of time - but thats pure conjecture on my part. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/what-unrefereed-preprint Out of interest are the unvaccinated they are comparing to people who have already had / tested positive for covid or not , there seems to be lots of talk around natural immunity from having it lasting longer , though person experience is quite hard to work out as in the main the people I know who have tested positive after being double jabbed have also tested positive before as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: I know I am, but again what is your point? What's your point? Someone posts facts, you ask if they refuse vaccinations. Such odd behaviour. maxjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: I know I am, but again what is your point? Perhaps a needle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Archied said: Perhaps a needle Vaccine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Norman said: What's your point? Someone posts facts, you ask if they refuse vaccinations. Such odd behaviour. Not if you want to label them anti vaxer misinformation spreader??♂️ RoyMac5 and Norman 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Norman said: What's your point? Someone posts facts, you ask if they refuse vaccinations. Such odd behaviour. What facts? The stuff has not YET been peer reviewed. I asked what point he was trying to make. Odd? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Vaccine? Don’t be a knit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I know I am, but again what is your point? @Stive Pesley intially posted the study so we discussed it briefly. @Eddie quite rudely called me out for misinformation, so I repeated the study (the misinformation I was accused off) Now you questioned where I got 12 weeks from so I replied. What is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Archied said: Don’t be a knit You’re such a role model though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, maxjam said: @Stive Pesley intially posted the study so we discussed it briefly. @Eddie quite rudely called me out for misinformation, so I repeated the study (the misinformation I was accused off) Now you questioned where I got 12 weeks from so I replied. What is your point? Its not yet ‘facts’ its not been peer reviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: ? 37 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: (Sorry losing cognitive functions as have been drinking ? ) 19 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yeah whatever. What’s your point? You not having a vaccine? Or a booster? Edited October 23, 2021 by Norman Archied 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Norman said: You also don’t have a real point to say, do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Its not yet ‘facts’ its not been peer reviewed. Repeating this from an earlier post as you are repeating yourself; The study was funded by the Govt, undertaken by Oxford Uni and is currently under peer review. I recall reading a couple of articles about it in medical journals when I researched it a while back and its interesting now that Boris Johnson has come out and said the vaccines don't protect against transmission so its probably only a matter of time - but thats pure conjecture on my part. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/what-unrefereed-preprint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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