sage Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, HorsforthRam said: Don’t get all the “palpitations” stuff with Wisdom. Made one obvious error last night. Has made sone great interceptions and last ditch tackles over the last few games. Looks to break the lines with his passing rather than sideways passing. Not a problem position. RCB is our weakest position in terms of first choice player IMO. CF is our weakest in terms of depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Wisdom is a confidence player. He is benefitting playing in a solid defence, led by Clarke. The whole backline are comfortable passing the ball around (including Marshall who keeps doing the classic 5-a-side dummy throws to fool attackers too! ?). One thing I'd like to see more from from Wiz is the confidence to play the long ball instead of being safe all the time. Apparently, he was a pretty good DM at youth level and has good passing range, yet when the chance for a quick counter was on against Birmingham early on last night, he turned back and passed to Byrne and the move lost all momentum. I think it was because it happened so early in the game, he was taking more chances passing later in the game when we were comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramboy63 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Tamworthram said: Good thing Wisdom has managed to rely on the rest of the defence to bail him out resulting in only one goal conceded in the last five games then ? Must be watching a different game than me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ramboy63 said: Must be watching a different game than me Well we’ve only conceded one goal in the last 5 games I’ve watched where he’s been a major part of the defence so, we’ve continually got lucky, played poor opposition, his team mates keep covering for him or he isn’t as dodgy as some seem to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 56 minutes ago, roboto said: Wisdom is a confidence player. He is benefitting playing in a solid defence, led by Clarke. The whole backline are comfortable passing the ball around (including Marshall who keeps doing the classic 5-a-side dummy throws to fool attackers too! ?). His throw out to fozzy in the build up to the penalty was brilliant! Defence at the moment is on point, no denying we’re going to have to bring 2/3 centre backs in though during jan and the summer. With MTW leaving we’re set to have no CB’s on our books by July 1st! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: His throw out to fozzy in the build up to the penalty was brilliant! Defence at the moment is on point, no denying we’re going to have to bring 2/3 centre backs in though during jan and the summer. With MTW leaving we’re set to have no CB’s on our books by July 1st! this is why WR is fixed on Phil Jones. Jones can shield the defence to allow Bielik to advance and improve our quality in the final third. And he can fill in at CB if injuries require Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: this is why WR is fixed on Phil Jones. Jones can shield the defence to allow Bielik to advance and improve our quality in the final third. And he can fill in at CB if injuries require You think we’d sign Phil Jones to play as a DM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 41 minutes ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: You think we’d sign Phil Jones to play as a DM? I think WR would like to, yes He'll have better intl about his fitness that any of us do. The noise would not be there if WR was not interested. And Jones is not that old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: I think WR would like to, yes He'll have better intl about his fitness that any of us do. The noise would not be there if WR was not interested. And Jones is not that old Can’t see him as DMF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimbo Ram said: Can’t see him as DMF... not how people think of him but he's flexible and a complete footballer and with good advancing wing backs he would fit in well in front of the two centre backs. I think WR reckons the defence is now secure enough, whether with Buchanan or Fozzie and recent scorelines show this. The other view is WR wants a better option than Andre but I think he is now more focused on getting the best out of Lord Beilik. Whether PJ will come is another matter completely, will depend on his relationship w WR. Is this what Terry Hennessey did for us? I was too small to remember his role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 See Burnley takeover complete( American Investment company ALK Capital) not took as long as our so called saga. No excuses etc so this tells me how's isn't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 15 hours ago, roboto said: Wisdom is a confidence player. He is benefitting playing in a solid defence, led by Clarke. The whole backline are comfortable passing the ball around (including Marshall who keeps doing the classic 5-a-side dummy throws to fool attackers too! ?). One thing I'd like to see more from from Wiz is the confidence to play the long ball instead of being safe all the time. Apparently, he was a pretty good DM at youth level and has good passing range, yet when the chance for a quick counter was on against Birmingham early on last night, he turned back and passed to Byrne and the move lost all momentum. I think it was because it happened so early in the game, he was taking more chances passing later in the game when we were comfortable. Never really get this cliche, what player isn’t a confidence player??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 15 hours ago, roboto said: Wisdom is a confidence player. He is benefitting playing in a solid defence, led by Clarke. The whole backline are comfortable passing the ball around (including Marshall who keeps doing the classic 5-a-side dummy throws to fool attackers too! ?). One thing I'd like to see more from from Wiz is the confidence to play the long ball instead of being safe all the time. Apparently, he was a pretty good DM at youth level and has good passing range, yet when the chance for a quick counter was on against Birmingham early on last night, he turned back and passed to Byrne and the move lost all momentum. I think it was because it happened so early in the game, he was taking more chances passing later in the game when we were comfortable. For me it was the failure to look up which was the problem. I don't think he even knew the pass was on because he was running with his head down. He was under little pressure and could have risked a glance. But I guess in the grand scheme of things not enough to spoil my evening! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, ziggyram59 said: See Burnley takeover complete( American Investment company ALK Capital) not took as long as our so called saga. No excuses etc so this tells me how's isn't happening. Is this the same takeover by ALK that, according to Sportbusiness.com was imminent back on the 24th September? Come to think of it, they have rolled out exactly the same excuses as Derby. I.e. none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Is this the same takeover by ALK that, according to Sportbusiness.com was imminent back on the 24th September? Come to think of it, they have rolled out exactly the same excuses as Derby. I.e. none. That's news to me, I seen on Skysports news about 2 weeks ago about this supposed takeover of Burnley and read about it in the paper, just saying from information I've seen it's been sorted out a lot quicker than our takeover. Maybe you read more news business than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 40 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Is this the same takeover by ALK that, according to Sportbusiness.com was imminent back on the 24th September? Come to think of it, they have rolled out exactly the same excuses as Derby. I.e. none. I admire your stamina in rebuffing these silly comments. I would add, surely people can see that as they consume themselves with information hence they haven't seen the timelines or debate involved. They also wouldn't have seen the delays or excuses because, as you say, there weren't any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 54 minutes ago, ziggyram59 said: That's news to me, I seen on Skysports news about 2 weeks ago about this supposed takeover of Burnley and read about it in the paper, just saying from information I've seen it's been sorted out a lot quicker than our takeover. Maybe you read more news business than I do. I just googled it as I suspected there takeover may have taken a little longer than you seemed to think. I agree ours seems to be taking longer than any of us expected and may eventually fall through but, two points: these are complicated transactions (perhaps ours is more complicated than Burnley’s due to the Dell loan and the stadium sale) and the club have never, as far as I can see, put forward any excuses (as yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Tamworthram said: I just googled it as I suspected there takeover may have taken a little longer than you seemed to think. I agree ours seems to be taking longer than any of us expected and may eventually fall through but, two points: these are complicated transactions (perhaps ours is more complicated than Burnley’s due to the Dell loan and the stadium sale) and the club have never, as far as I can see, put forward any excuses (as yet). As a side note it will be interesting to see if these new owners at Burnley keep Sean Dyche as there manager or if there ambitions want to invest a lot of money into the club and go for a more high profile manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, ziggyram59 said: As a side note it will be interesting to see if these new owners at Burnley keep Sean Dyche as there manager or if there ambitions want to invest a lot of money into the club and go for a more high profile manager. Like Rooney??? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, mwram1973 said: Like Rooney??? ?? I hope not I like the job his doing for us. Just our luck if they went in for him and he did a Lampard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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