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3 minutes ago, Eddie said:

That's a good point - I have no idea who 'they' are. 

Well get y'sen to the co-op then and sort the strongbow out for the mrs. There's nowt to stop you. You might be able to make it to my bbq after all.

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16 minutes ago, bigbadbob said:

Well get y'sen to the co-op then and sort the strongbow out for the mrs. There's nowt to stop you. You might be able to make it to my bbq after all.

I've just ordered her 3 dozen German and Belgian beers as compensation

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7 hours ago, B4ev6is said:

Well someone at the goverment have said ending were they paying end of 80 percent of our wages now ending it in june. One of them said people should get of lazy backsides get back to work. Well I cant they shut my work place.

Which one said get off your lazy backsides?

 

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anybody else have concerns around track and tracing? I don’t ness mean around privacy issues but rather if and how it can work without turning into a shambles , listening to question time last night and the gov minister sounding clueless on important questions about how it will work coupled with reading stuff and common sense thinking I have concerns,

he was asked if someone reports symptoms ( untested ,could be anything or even nothing given the fear and hyper sensitivity we feel) and you have been near them you have to go into two week self isolation then wait further for test ( around three week total), do your family then also have to isolate with you ,

do we have people with genuine fears reporting symptoms so as not to have to work , do we have the lazy ( yes there are lots) doing same , do we have the down right idiots reporting to cause problems ( yep plenty of those types too) , are people forced to isolate if they have been near someone reporting symptoms even if not confirmed with test?

I can see this turning into a nightmare 

don’t get me wrong ,I’m not anti on privacy issue grounds if it was efficient and worked but I do fear it’s not been thought through fully and may be unworkable in this country 

 

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9 hours ago, chezzyram said:

I was told that they are only testing NHS workers 'by invitation' and referrals. They are open at 8am and some days are tooling up a couple of hours later despite staff and tests being available because there are no referrals. My daughter works for the NHS and works closely with a care home a few miles from the Proact and the care staff are being sent to Leicester or Lincoln for testing

Yes, that was our experience, too. It can't be right but is yet another example of the bureaucracy that prevents efficiency within the system. Making someone who is already feeling pretty ill drive 50 miles for a test and the Government is wondering why they aren't meeting their testing targets.

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8 hours ago, bigbadbob said:

Who are they? Would they know? What would actually happen if they found out?

Under the circumstances, and considering who you are posting to, I sincerely hope this is a joke, and you merely forgot to add a wink or a smiley!

It'd be @Eddie himself putting his own life/well being at risk, when all said and done.

Apologies for being so serious so early in the day.  ?

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14 hours ago, RamNut said:

The bloke at work who contracted covid 19 has now been in intensive care for seven weeks.

he has been transferred twice from one intensive care unit to another, to get specialist ventilator treatment via tracheotomy and for complications / kidney failure. It just sounds like hell. 
he has been sedated after becoming agitated.


whilst everyone skips off into the bank holiday weekend  and looks forward to an end to lockdown, maybe this can be a timely reminder of the risks and potential consequences of contracting this horrible disease. 

Be sure to remind him the statistics say it's probably no worse than the flu. That'll cheer him up a bit. 

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47 minutes ago, Boycie said:

@Eddie a man of cultured man of beer.

why are you drinking wrongbow cider? There’s so many decent ciders out there.

Not me. I would drink some ciders (Rosie's Pig is quite nice, as is Aspall's Imperial Vintage) but the Memsahib has always liked Strongbow.

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1 hour ago, Archied said:

anybody else have concerns around track and tracing? I don’t ness mean around privacy issues but rather if and how it can work without turning into a shambles , listening to question time last night and the gov minister sounding clueless on important questions about how it will work coupled with reading stuff and common sense thinking I have concerns,

he was asked if someone reports symptoms ( untested ,could be anything or even nothing given the fear and hyper sensitivity we feel) and you have been near them you have to go into two week self isolation then wait further for test ( around three week total), do your family then also have to isolate with you ,

do we have people with genuine fears reporting symptoms so as not to have to work , do we have the lazy ( yes there are lots) doing same , do we have the down right idiots reporting to cause problems ( yep plenty of those types too) , are people forced to isolate if they have been near someone reporting symptoms even if not confirmed with test?

I can see this turning into a nightmare 

don’t get me wrong ,I’m not anti on privacy issue grounds if it was efficient and worked but I do fear it’s not been thought through fully and may be unworkable in this country 

 

On your note about people taking advantage, it clearly does happen, it has where i work certainly. They can do this now though, they don't need an app to do it.

The idiots that report issues to cause problems, my understanding is if someone claims to have symptoms it flags as a warning, but if you have tested positive you get a code to enter so it flags as a red warning.

I would hope that if someone logs a report to cause problems, that if they are then out and about with their phone within the 14 days that somehow this can be picked up by the authorities and they come down hard on them, lets face it if you are stupid enough to do it for a bit of fun then you probably will carry on carrying your phone with you.

I do think some people will do this, but surely its going to be the minority that do, if enough download it surely, and lets face it the majority of us aren't oxygen thieving scumbags, it will help it work.

I think with regards to isolating if you have been near someone, you have to be have been shown as being near them long enough to make it a danger, i think the scientific advice is 15 minutes or so if within 2 meters?

I am sure you are right, there are lots of questions, but there are people and countries all round the world working on this, and if it will work in one country then the UK should be no different.

I will download it, although while I am shielding won't do me much good mind, but i will encourage all family members to who aren't, although my mum and dad will probably download spotify by mistake mind.

I'd say lets give it a go, and hope the minds working on it have a better grasp on it than we do.

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36 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said:

Under the circumstances, and considering who you are posting to, I sincerely hope this is a joke, and you merely forgot to add a wink or a smiley!

It'd be @Eddie himself putting his own life/well being at risk, when all said and done.

Apologies for being so serious so early in the day.  ?

No, didn't forget to add a wink or a smiley.

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12 minutes ago, bigbadbob said:

No, didn't forget to add a wink or a smiley.

So, are you advocating that he "sneaks out to the Co-Op", despite him apparently being at greater risk of contracting the virus than the majority of us? (Thus being advised by "experts" to remain strictly in isolation at home for 12 weeks). 
As if the only thing that could go wrong is him "being caught sneaking out"?

 

... or am I totally misunderstanding your posts?  ?‍♂️

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44 minutes ago, GboroRam said:

Be sure to remind him the statistics say it's probably no worse than the flu. That'll cheer him up a bit. 

What is the mortality rate compared to flu?

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I have my test at 10.30 today in Grantham.....

Does it tell you if you've had it, or just if you have it now or not? 

48 hours to 5 days wait for the results. Seems like a waste of time really. 

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10 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said:

So, are you advocating that he "sneaks out to the Co-Op", despite him apparently being at greater risk of contracting the virus than the majority of us? (Thus being advised by "experts" to remain strictly in isolation at home for 12 weeks). 
As if the only thing that could go wrong is him "being caught sneaking out"?

 

... or am I totally misunderstanding your posts?  ?‍♂️

I think he is getting at Eddie saying he is under house arrest. He is, but by himself. 

Eddie keeps referring to 'they' or 'them' when in fact it is just Eddie that makes the final decision. 

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3 minutes ago, Norman said:

I have my test at 10.30 today in Grantham.....

Does it tell you if you've had it, or just if you have it now or not? 

48 hours to 5 days wait for the results. Seems like a waste of time really. 

I hear they have a different procedure for Prison Officers.

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1 minute ago, Norman said:

I think he is getting at Eddie saying he is under house arrest. He is, but by himself. 

Eddie keeps referring to 'they' or 'them' when in fact it is just Eddie that makes the final decision. 

Then if that's the case, I thank you for the explanation... and offer my sincere apologies to @bigbadbob, for my poor choice in assumptions!  ?

 

... And all the very best with your test.    ? ?

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