Chester40 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Tamworthram said: What’s to be annoyed about? It seemed like a valid question to me. Say what you will about our politicians, I doubt very much if either Johnson or Starmer would responded in such a way followed by refusing to allow the next reporter to even ask a question and then walking out. It was totally fine, he handled the annoying question OK too ...but he then refused to take a question from the next person who had done nothing but patiently wait and he then flounced off? Bizaare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 China has also been involved in large scale cyber attacks since the outbreak in both the UK and US and the FBI continue to round up Chinese spies that have been recieving orders and payments, in one case, for up to 20 years. The enemy of your 'enemy' is not your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chester40 said: It was totally fine, he handled the annoying question OK too ...but he then refused to take a question from the next person who had done nothing but patiently wait and he then flounced off? Bizaare. I’m not sure he answered the first question OK. I can’t play it again but, from what I recall, she asked him why he kept saying the US was dealing with it better than others and she challenged him suggesting it’s not a competition (I may have got that wrong. As I say, I can’t play the clip again) but he just said she should be asking China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Here's a good UK-based timeline if any one is still blinkered enough to think we have done a good job here December 31st China alerts WHO to new virus. January 23rd Study reveals a third of China’s patients require intensive care. January 24th Boris Johnson misses first Cobra meeting. January 29th Boris Johnson misses second Cobra meeting. January 31st The NHS declares first ever ‘Level 4 critical incident’ Meanwhile, the government declines to join European scheme to source PPE. February 5th Boris Johnson misses third Cobra meeting. February 12th Boris Johnson misses fourth Cobra meeting. Exeter University published study warning Coronavirus could infect 45 million people in the UK if left unchallenged. February 13th Boris Johnson misses conference call with European leaders. February 14th Boris Johnson goes away on holiday. Aides are told keeps Johnson’s briefing notes short or he will not read them. February 18th Johnson misses fifth cobra meeting. February 26th Boris Johnson announces ‘Herd Immunity’ strategy, announcing some people will lose loved ones. Government document is leaked, predicting half a million Brits could die in ‘worse case scenario’ February 29th Boris Johnson retreats to his country manor. NHS warns of ‘PPE shortage nightmare’ Stockpiles have dwindled or expired after years of austerity cuts. March 2nd Boris Johnson attends his first Cobra meeting, declining another opportunity to join European PPE scheme. Government’s own scientists say over half a million Brit’s could die if virus left unrestrained. Johnson tells country “We are very, very well prepared.” March 3rd Scientists urge Government to advise public not to shake hands. Boris Johnson brags about shaking hands of Coronavirus patients. March 4th Government stops providing daily updates on virus following a 70% spike in UK cases. They will later U-turn on this amid accusations they are withholding vital information. March 5th Boris Johnson tells public to ‘wash their hands and business as usual’ March 7th Boris Johnson joins 82,000 people at Six Nations match. March 9th After Ireland cancels St Patrick’s day parades, the government says there’s “No Rationale” for cancelling sporting events. March 10th - 13th Cheltenham takes place, more than a quarter of a million people attend. March 11th 3,000 Atletico Madrid fans fly to Liverpool. March 12th Boris Johnson states banning events such as Cheltenham will have little effect. The Imperial College study finds the government’s plan is projected to kill half a million people. March 13th The FA suspends the Premier League, citing an absence of Government guidance. Britain is invited to join European scheme for joint purchase of ventilators, and refuses. Boris Johnson lifts restrictions of those arriving from Coronavirus hot spots. March 14th Government is still allowing mass gatherings, as Stereophonics play to 5,000 people in Cardiff. March 16th Boris Johnson asks Britons not to go to pubs, but allows them to stay open. During a conference call, Johnson jokes that push to build new ventilators should be called ‘Operation Last Gasp’ March 19th Hospital patients with Coronavirus are returned to care homes in a bid to free up hospital space. What follows is a boom of virus cases in care homes. March 20th The Government states that PPE shortage crisis is “Completely resolved” Less than two weeks later, the British Medical Association reports an acute shortage in PPE. March 23rd UK goes into lockdown. March 26th Boris Johnson is accused of putting ‘Brexit over Breathing’ by not joining EU ventilator scheme. The government then state they had not joined the scheme because they had ‘missed the email’ April 1st The Evening Standard publishes that just 0.17% of NHS staff have been tested for the virus. April 3rd The UK death toll overtakes China. April 5th 17.5 million Antibody tests, ordered by the government and described by Boris Johnson as a ‘game changer’ are found to be a failure. April 7th Boris Johnson is moved to intensive care with Coronavirus. April 16th Flights bring 15,000 people a day into the UK - without virus testing. April 17th Health Secretary Matt Hancock says “I would love to be able to wave a magic wand and have PPE fall from the sky.” The UK has now missed four opportunities to join the EU’s PPE scheme. April 21st The Government fails to reach its target of face masks for the NHS, as it is revealed manufactures offers of help were met with silence. Instead millions of pieces of PPE are being shipped from the UK to Europe. April 23rd - 24th Government announces testing kits for 10 million key workers. Orders run out within minutes as only 5,000 are made available. April 25th UK death toll from Coronavirus overtakes that of The Blitz. April 30th Boris Johnson announces the UK has succeeded in avoiding a tragedy that had engulfed other parts of the world - At this point, The UK has the 3rd highest death toll in the world. May 1st The Government announces it has reached its target of 100,000 tests - They haven’t conducted the tests, but posted the testing kits. May 5th The UK death toll becomes the highest in Europe. May 6th Boris Johnson announces the UK could start to lift lockdown restrictions by next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, TramRam said: Spot on RamNut, She sits back after being "rebuked" then thinks...hello I'm of Asian origin, I'll ask him why he aimed that statement at me...then gets cut off. There's a new spokeperson for the President, A blonde female, She turned the tables onto to journalists last week when they said the statements coming from the Whitehouse are contradicting, She named several papers that have done the exact same thing...as Corporal Jones said "they don't like it up em" Why wouldn’t he take the question from the next journalist who had been waiting patiently after being pointed to and then why did he walk off taking no more questions? Why did he “aim the question” about China at her when, from what I recall, she was only asking him why he thought the US was dealing with it better than others and it’s not a competition? She didn’t ask him anything about where the virus originated so, why bring up China? I find it bizarre that anyone is attempting to defend Trump for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Here's a good UK-based timeline if any one is still blinkered enough to think we have done a good job here December 31st China alerts WHO to new virus. January 23rd Study reveals a third of China’s patients require intensive care. January 24th Boris Johnson misses first Cobra meeting. January 29th Boris Johnson misses second Cobra meeting. January 31st The NHS declares first ever ‘Level 4 critical incident’ Meanwhile, the government declines to join European scheme to source PPE. February 5th Boris Johnson misses third Cobra meeting. February 12th Boris Johnson misses fourth Cobra meeting. Exeter University published study warning Coronavirus could infect 45 million people in the UK if left unchallenged. February 13th Boris Johnson misses conference call with European leaders. February 14th Boris Johnson goes away on holiday. Aides are told keeps Johnson’s briefing notes short or he will not read them. February 18th Johnson misses fifth cobra meeting. February 26th Boris Johnson announces ‘Herd Immunity’ strategy, announcing some people will lose loved ones. Government document is leaked, predicting half a million Brits could die in ‘worse case scenario’ February 29th Boris Johnson retreats to his country manor. NHS warns of ‘PPE shortage nightmare’ Stockpiles have dwindled or expired after years of austerity cuts. March 2nd Boris Johnson attends his first Cobra meeting, declining another opportunity to join European PPE scheme. Government’s own scientists say over half a million Brit’s could die if virus left unrestrained. Johnson tells country “We are very, very well prepared.” March 3rd Scientists urge Government to advise public not to shake hands. Boris Johnson brags about shaking hands of Coronavirus patients. March 4th Government stops providing daily updates on virus following a 70% spike in UK cases. They will later U-turn on this amid accusations they are withholding vital information. March 5th Boris Johnson tells public to ‘wash their hands and business as usual’ March 7th Boris Johnson joins 82,000 people at Six Nations match. March 9th After Ireland cancels St Patrick’s day parades, the government says there’s “No Rationale” for cancelling sporting events. March 10th - 13th Cheltenham takes place, more than a quarter of a million people attend. March 11th 3,000 Atletico Madrid fans fly to Liverpool. March 12th Boris Johnson states banning events such as Cheltenham will have little effect. The Imperial College study finds the government’s plan is projected to kill half a million people. March 13th The FA suspends the Premier League, citing an absence of Government guidance. Britain is invited to join European scheme for joint purchase of ventilators, and refuses. Boris Johnson lifts restrictions of those arriving from Coronavirus hot spots. March 14th Government is still allowing mass gatherings, as Stereophonics play to 5,000 people in Cardiff. March 16th Boris Johnson asks Britons not to go to pubs, but allows them to stay open. During a conference call, Johnson jokes that push to build new ventilators should be called ‘Operation Last Gasp’ March 19th Hospital patients with Coronavirus are returned to care homes in a bid to free up hospital space. What follows is a boom of virus cases in care homes. March 20th The Government states that PPE shortage crisis is “Completely resolved” Less than two weeks later, the British Medical Association reports an acute shortage in PPE. March 23rd UK goes into lockdown. March 26th Boris Johnson is accused of putting ‘Brexit over Breathing’ by not joining EU ventilator scheme. The government then state they had not joined the scheme because they had ‘missed the email’ April 1st The Evening Standard publishes that just 0.17% of NHS staff have been tested for the virus. April 3rd The UK death toll overtakes China. April 5th 17.5 million Antibody tests, ordered by the government and described by Boris Johnson as a ‘game changer’ are found to be a failure. April 7th Boris Johnson is moved to intensive care with Coronavirus. April 16th Flights bring 15,000 people a day into the UK - without virus testing. April 17th Health Secretary Matt Hancock says “I would love to be able to wave a magic wand and have PPE fall from the sky.” The UK has now missed four opportunities to join the EU’s PPE scheme. April 21st The Government fails to reach its target of face masks for the NHS, as it is revealed manufactures offers of help were met with silence. Instead millions of pieces of PPE are being shipped from the UK to Europe. April 23rd - 24th Government announces testing kits for 10 million key workers. Orders run out within minutes as only 5,000 are made available. April 25th UK death toll from Coronavirus overtakes that of The Blitz. April 30th Boris Johnson announces the UK has succeeded in avoiding a tragedy that had engulfed other parts of the world - At this point, The UK has the 3rd highest death toll in the world. May 1st The Government announces it has reached its target of 100,000 tests - They haven’t conducted the tests, but posted the testing kits. May 5th The UK death toll becomes the highest in Europe. May 6th Boris Johnson announces the UK could start to lift lockdown restrictions by next week. Boris locked down very soon after you revealed that 100 Chinese students had been abused in the month of February at an East Midlands University. If you had got your data out a few weeks quicker you could have saved a great many lives, and the huge Anglo-Chinese shitstorm that has subsequently arisen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Here's a good UK-based timeline if any one is still blinkered enough to think we have done a good job here December 31st China alerts WHO to new virus. January 23rd Study reveals a third of China’s patients require intensive care. January 24th Boris Johnson misses first Cobra meeting. January 29th Boris Johnson misses second Cobra meeting. January 31st The NHS declares first ever ‘Level 4 critical incident’ Meanwhile, the government declines to join European scheme to source PPE. February 5th Boris Johnson misses third Cobra meeting. February 12th Boris Johnson misses fourth Cobra meeting. Exeter University published study warning Coronavirus could infect 45 million people in the UK if left unchallenged. February 13th Boris Johnson misses conference call with European leaders. February 14th Boris Johnson goes away on holiday. Aides are told keeps Johnson’s briefing notes short or he will not read them. February 18th Johnson misses fifth cobra meeting. February 26th Boris Johnson announces ‘Herd Immunity’ strategy, announcing some people will lose loved ones. Government document is leaked, predicting half a million Brits could die in ‘worse case scenario’ February 29th Boris Johnson retreats to his country manor. NHS warns of ‘PPE shortage nightmare’ Stockpiles have dwindled or expired after years of austerity cuts. March 2nd Boris Johnson attends his first Cobra meeting, declining another opportunity to join European PPE scheme. Government’s own scientists say over half a million Brit’s could die if virus left unrestrained. Johnson tells country “We are very, very well prepared.” March 3rd Scientists urge Government to advise public not to shake hands. Boris Johnson brags about shaking hands of Coronavirus patients. March 4th Government stops providing daily updates on virus following a 70% spike in UK cases. They will later U-turn on this amid accusations they are withholding vital information. March 5th Boris Johnson tells public to ‘wash their hands and business as usual’ March 7th Boris Johnson joins 82,000 people at Six Nations match. March 9th After Ireland cancels St Patrick’s day parades, the government says there’s “No Rationale” for cancelling sporting events. March 10th - 13th Cheltenham takes place, more than a quarter of a million people attend. March 11th 3,000 Atletico Madrid fans fly to Liverpool. March 12th Boris Johnson states banning events such as Cheltenham will have little effect. The Imperial College study finds the government’s plan is projected to kill half a million people. March 13th The FA suspends the Premier League, citing an absence of Government guidance. Britain is invited to join European scheme for joint purchase of ventilators, and refuses. Boris Johnson lifts restrictions of those arriving from Coronavirus hot spots. March 14th Government is still allowing mass gatherings, as Stereophonics play to 5,000 people in Cardiff. March 16th Boris Johnson asks Britons not to go to pubs, but allows them to stay open. During a conference call, Johnson jokes that push to build new ventilators should be called ‘Operation Last Gasp’ March 19th Hospital patients with Coronavirus are returned to care homes in a bid to free up hospital space. What follows is a boom of virus cases in care homes. March 20th The Government states that PPE shortage crisis is “Completely resolved” Less than two weeks later, the British Medical Association reports an acute shortage in PPE. March 23rd UK goes into lockdown. March 26th Boris Johnson is accused of putting ‘Brexit over Breathing’ by not joining EU ventilator scheme. The government then state they had not joined the scheme because they had ‘missed the email’ April 1st The Evening Standard publishes that just 0.17% of NHS staff have been tested for the virus. April 3rd The UK death toll overtakes China. April 5th 17.5 million Antibody tests, ordered by the government and described by Boris Johnson as a ‘game changer’ are found to be a failure. April 7th Boris Johnson is moved to intensive care with Coronavirus. April 16th Flights bring 15,000 people a day into the UK - without virus testing. April 17th Health Secretary Matt Hancock says “I would love to be able to wave a magic wand and have PPE fall from the sky.” The UK has now missed four opportunities to join the EU’s PPE scheme. April 21st The Government fails to reach its target of face masks for the NHS, as it is revealed manufactures offers of help were met with silence. Instead millions of pieces of PPE are being shipped from the UK to Europe. April 23rd - 24th Government announces testing kits for 10 million key workers. Orders run out within minutes as only 5,000 are made available. April 25th UK death toll from Coronavirus overtakes that of The Blitz. April 30th Boris Johnson announces the UK has succeeded in avoiding a tragedy that had engulfed other parts of the world - At this point, The UK has the 3rd highest death toll in the world. May 1st The Government announces it has reached its target of 100,000 tests - They haven’t conducted the tests, but posted the testing kits. May 5th The UK death toll becomes the highest in Europe. May 6th Boris Johnson announces the UK could start to lift lockdown restrictions by next week. Not really a timeline is it? Its just another Government bashing exercise with some dates next to it. It's also some facts and some opinions dressed up as facts. Where on the timeline is the opening of the Nightingale hospitals, ensuring that the NHS capacity is not compromised? Where on the timeline is the delivery of ventilators and PPE before the much heralded EU scheme had delivered a bean? Why is there only one entry for what the WHO advised the Goverment? Where is the first recorded case? Surely this would help people grab an idea of how much the virus had spread by time any meaningful advice was received from WHO. Why is medical and scientific advice only mentioned when it is seen to show the Government in a bad light? Why doesnt the author do more research and find out what other advice the Government been acting upon? I know I will get the usual Tory Boy defending the indefensible insults following this but I really dont care. If you tried being a bit more balanced then I would probably take a bit more notice of the points you make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Here's a good UK-based timeline if any one is still blinkered enough to think we have done a good job here December 31st China alerts WHO to new virus. January 23rd Study reveals a third of China’s patients require intensive care. January 24th Boris Johnson misses first Cobra meeting. January 29th Boris Johnson misses second Cobra meeting. January 31st The NHS declares first ever ‘Level 4 critical incident’ Meanwhile, the government declines to join European scheme to source PPE. February 5th Boris Johnson misses third Cobra meeting. February 12th Boris Johnson misses fourth Cobra meeting. Exeter University published study warning Coronavirus could infect 45 million people in the UK if left unchallenged. February 13th Boris Johnson misses conference call with European leaders. February 14th Boris Johnson goes away on holiday. Aides are told keeps Johnson’s briefing notes short or he will not read them. February 18th Johnson misses fifth cobra meeting. February 26th Boris Johnson announces ‘Herd Immunity’ strategy, announcing some people will lose loved ones. Government document is leaked, predicting half a million Brits could die in ‘worse case scenario’ February 29th Boris Johnson retreats to his country manor. NHS warns of ‘PPE shortage nightmare’ Stockpiles have dwindled or expired after years of austerity cuts. March 2nd Boris Johnson attends his first Cobra meeting, declining another opportunity to join European PPE scheme. Government’s own scientists say over half a million Brit’s could die if virus left unrestrained. Johnson tells country “We are very, very well prepared.” March 3rd Scientists urge Government to advise public not to shake hands. Boris Johnson brags about shaking hands of Coronavirus patients. March 4th Government stops providing daily updates on virus following a 70% spike in UK cases. They will later U-turn on this amid accusations they are withholding vital information. March 5th Boris Johnson tells public to ‘wash their hands and business as usual’ March 7th Boris Johnson joins 82,000 people at Six Nations match. March 9th After Ireland cancels St Patrick’s day parades, the government says there’s “No Rationale” for cancelling sporting events. March 10th - 13th Cheltenham takes place, more than a quarter of a million people attend. March 11th 3,000 Atletico Madrid fans fly to Liverpool. March 12th Boris Johnson states banning events such as Cheltenham will have little effect. The Imperial College study finds the government’s plan is projected to kill half a million people. March 13th The FA suspends the Premier League, citing an absence of Government guidance. Britain is invited to join European scheme for joint purchase of ventilators, and refuses. Boris Johnson lifts restrictions of those arriving from Coronavirus hot spots. March 14th Government is still allowing mass gatherings, as Stereophonics play to 5,000 people in Cardiff. March 16th Boris Johnson asks Britons not to go to pubs, but allows them to stay open. During a conference call, Johnson jokes that push to build new ventilators should be called ‘Operation Last Gasp’ March 19th Hospital patients with Coronavirus are returned to care homes in a bid to free up hospital space. What follows is a boom of virus cases in care homes. March 20th The Government states that PPE shortage crisis is “Completely resolved” Less than two weeks later, the British Medical Association reports an acute shortage in PPE. March 23rd UK goes into lockdown. March 26th Boris Johnson is accused of putting ‘Brexit over Breathing’ by not joining EU ventilator scheme. The government then state they had not joined the scheme because they had ‘missed the email’ April 1st The Evening Standard publishes that just 0.17% of NHS staff have been tested for the virus. April 3rd The UK death toll overtakes China. April 5th 17.5 million Antibody tests, ordered by the government and described by Boris Johnson as a ‘game changer’ are found to be a failure. April 7th Boris Johnson is moved to intensive care with Coronavirus. April 16th Flights bring 15,000 people a day into the UK - without virus testing. April 17th Health Secretary Matt Hancock says “I would love to be able to wave a magic wand and have PPE fall from the sky.” The UK has now missed four opportunities to join the EU’s PPE scheme. April 21st The Government fails to reach its target of face masks for the NHS, as it is revealed manufactures offers of help were met with silence. Instead millions of pieces of PPE are being shipped from the UK to Europe. April 23rd - 24th Government announces testing kits for 10 million key workers. Orders run out within minutes as only 5,000 are made available. April 25th UK death toll from Coronavirus overtakes that of The Blitz. April 30th Boris Johnson announces the UK has succeeded in avoiding a tragedy that had engulfed other parts of the world - At this point, The UK has the 3rd highest death toll in the world. May 1st The Government announces it has reached its target of 100,000 tests - They haven’t conducted the tests, but posted the testing kits. May 5th The UK death toll becomes the highest in Europe. May 6th Boris Johnson announces the UK could start to lift lockdown restrictions by next week. Conveniently missing any faults and coverups by the WHO and the CCP. ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Uptherams said: Conveniently missing any faults and coverups by the WHO and the CCP. ?♂️ Because they are just conspiracy theories at the moment. Unless you have concrete evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: If you tried being a bit more balanced then I would probably take a bit more notice of the points you make. All i want is for you to notice me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Because they are just conspiracy theories at the moment. Unless you have concrete evidence? ?? Of course they are ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, TramRam said: Spot on RamNut, She sits back after being "rebuked" then thinks...hello I'm of Asian origin, I'll ask him why he aimed that statement at me...then gets cut off. There's a new spokeperson for the President, A blonde female, She turned the tables onto to journalists last week when they said the statements coming from the Whitehouse are contradicting, She named several papers that have done the exact same thing...as Corporal Jones said "they don't like it up em" Firstly, it's not the first time Trump has done this. Twice before he's been arsy with Asian looking woman, asking one where she was from. He doesn't do that to other people. It was a pretty soft ball question to any politician worth their salt. Secondly, I think you're referring to his new press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, who is an utter plank. She managed to lie literally more than she told the truth at her first press briefing. She said with a straight face that Trump has never lied about any of his affairs or the claims made against him of sexual misconduct, even though he was caught lying on Airforce One saying he didn't even know who Stormy Daniels was, and there are over 20 credible claims against him. She was known before getting the job as the woman who argued (trolled) on TV to suggest Obama started ISIS and claimed that the message coming out of Charlotteville by the right wing was one of love and inclusiveness. She's also a birther supporter and said on live TV that Obama's brother still lives in a hut in Kenya and denies attacks on blacks by white Police Officers are ever racist. OTOH, she looks remarkably like almost every woman Trump has ever had an affair with or been accused of being sexually inappropriate with. So there is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TramRam Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 54 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: 1.Why wouldn’t he take the question from the next journalist who had been waiting patiently after being pointed to 2. And then why did he walk off taking no more questions? 3.Why did he “aim the question” about China at her when, from what I recall, she was only asking him why he thought the US was dealing with it better than others and it’s not a competition? 4. She didn’t ask him anything about where the virus originated so, why bring up China? I find it bizarre that anyone is attempting to defend Trump for this. 1.That journalist said or something similar "I was letting this journalist ask more" I guess...as I don't know what's going through his mind, She missed the boat with being nice to another journalist. 2. Not a clue. 3. See answer 2. 4. Again, I refer you to 2/3 5. I wasn't defending Trupm, I was offering my opinion, Just a thought...why is it bizarre that anyone chooses to defend Trump for this. 6. I find it "bizarre" that people find it "bizarre" those who choose to defend him, Me I just find him entertaining in an amusing sort of way...now that's "bizarre". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: Firstly, it's not the first time Trump has done this. Twice before he's been arsy with Asian looking woman, asking one where she was from. He doesn't do that to other people. It was a pretty soft ball question to any politician worth their salt. Litterally everytime a journalist is being a dick, one way or another, he asks where they are from are who they work for, or shuts down someone for trying to put the President on the naughty step, to score points rather than ask a serious question. Love him or loathe him, he simply can't be bothered with this nonesnse. Anyone else who thinks they'd tolerate this guff on a daily basis, is deluding themselves. He's brash, arrogant, direct, egotistical, speaks his mind and isn't diplomatic. But the amount of accusations thrown at him are ridiculous. People project their personal problems on to him. Instead of talking and asking about the actions of the CCP, or The WHO, or what is potentially the biggest political story in modern politics..Obomagate, we get this nonesnse. I just can't believe people still can't see most of the media for what it is. They are telling people what to think, feel and do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, TramRam said: 1.That journalist said or something similar "I was letting this journalist ask more" I guess...as I don't know what's going through his mind, She missed the boat with being nice to another journalist. 2. Not a clue. 3. See answer 2. 4. Again, I refer you to 2/3 5. I wasn't defending Trupm, I was offering my opinion, Just a thought...why is it bizarre that anyone chooses to defend Trump for this. 6. I find it "bizarre" that people find it "bizarre" those who choose to defend him, Me I just find him entertaining in an amusing sort of way...now that's "bizarre". Just to clarify, can you remind me what opinion you were offering? Given your own responses (“not a clue” for example) and the fact “she missed the boat” because she was being polite and then he refused to let her ask her question suggests he was acting in a mature and rational way? If your answer is yes, then I guess we’ll have to beg to differ. If your answer is no then surely it is bizarre for anyone to try to defend him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Litterally everytime a journalist is being a dick, one way or another, he asks where they are from are who they work for, or shuts down someone for trying to put the President on the naughty step, to score points rather than ask a serious question. Love him or loathe him, he simply can't be bothered with this nonesnse. Anyone else who thinks they'd tolerate this guff on a daily basis, is deluding themselves. He's brash, arrogant, direct, egotistical, speaks his mind and isn't diplomatic. But the amount of accusations thrown at him are ridiculous. People project their personal problems on to him. Instead of talking and asking about the actions of the CCP, or The WHO, or what is potentially the biggest political story in modern politics..Obomagate, we get this nonesnse. I just can't believe people still can't see most of the media for what it is. They are telling people what to think, feel and do. It seems Donald is a rams fan. Welcome to the forum Mr Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: Secondly, I think you're referring to his new press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, who is an utter plank. She's always been a outspoken conservative it seems, but was sharply critical of Trump before he got elected in 2016, calling him an 'inauthentic Republican' and describing some of his comments as racist, derogatory and hateful. It appears she had a change of heart in the last few years. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Tamworthram said: It seems Donald is a rams fan. Welcome to the forum Mr Trump I'm by no means a Trump fan. But when the choice is Clinton, Biden or Trump.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 57 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Not really a timeline is it? Its just another Government bashing exercise with some dates next to it. It's also some facts and some opinions dressed up as facts. Where on the timeline is the opening of the Nightingale hospitals, ensuring that the NHS capacity is not compromised? Where on the timeline is the delivery of ventilators and PPE before the much heralded EU scheme had delivered a bean? Why is there only one entry for what the WHO advised the Goverment? Where is the first recorded case? Surely this would help people grab an idea of how much the virus had spread by time any meaningful advice was received from WHO. Why is medical and scientific advice only mentioned when it is seen to show the Government in a bad light? Why doesnt the author do more research and find out what other advice the Government been acting upon? I know I will get the usual Tory Boy defending the indefensible insults following this but I really dont care. If you tried being a bit more balanced then I would probably take a bit more notice of the points you make. You continue to defend the indefensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Eddie said: You continue to defend the indefensible. And you continue to bore me with your completely blinkered view if I'm being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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