eddie Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, angieram said: Agree. It's a sizeable minority of all different ages. I do think there is a common factor though - excess alcohol consumption. coupled with low IQs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Me and dad the most we have a couple of pints I dont condine this behavour any shape of form. But normal away games nrothing like this. But not at games but when out and about when having a good time it is hard to tell just how many you truely had. With me danger sign is when I cant feel my feet thats when I know when to stop. But most of them at age dont know how to listen to there bodies. Brilliant post mate,If you can’t feel your feet you need to stop drinking. And cheers for trying to help us on Saturday...really appreciate the thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, CHCDerby said: Just close the bar in the concourse 20 minutes before kick off. Surely everybody can finish a drink in that time. How does that work at half time?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Your welcome mate Dont like to see people in trouble who clearly need my help. But I have learned this in the past but learned hard way I never used to listen until my feet went num and once never had a hang over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 That not fair on fans who gets there late through no fault of there own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, ram59 said: How does that work at half time?? Make HT an hour to give us more VDT ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, angieram said: I like a drink. If I go to athletics or the theatre I buy one and take it to my seat where I consume it gradually over the course of the event. All this 'drink it up on the concourse' doesn't help as people drink too quickly - both before and at the interval. How many other times do people go out and have time limits imposed on each round? I suppose this drinking in a group also contributes as everyone has to keep pace and not the the one to be seen to lose face with the gang. I never drink at football though - partly because I want to watch the football (there's a novelty!) and partly because I need my wits about me to deal with the irresponsible drinkers - even the pleasant drunks are a nuisance at games. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Can we stop acting like this isn't a minority. I've never seen Derby fans act the way they did on Saturday (again a handful). Every time I've been home or away, our fans have been fine. No different to 98% of other fans up and down the country. the other 2% are Millwall and Leeds :). Those on Saturday will get dealt with. Don't be put off from supporting your team because of those idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Hear hear Dont be afaird to enjoy a drink mate you can still watch the game mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, jimbobram said: Can we stop acting like this isn't a minority. I've never seen Derby fans act the way they did on Saturday (again a handful). Every time I've been home or away, our fans have been fine. No different to 98% of other fans up and down the country. the other 2% are Millwall and Leeds :). Those on Saturday will get dealt with. Don't be put off from supporting your team because of those idiots. A person had to go to hospital for something they weren’t involved in. Minority or not it’s worth discussing how it happened, why it happened and let’s make sure it doesn’t happen again. Saying it’s not me, but a minority of others only washes our hands of responsibility but what if it happens again. Maybe fans saying ‘you know what I don’t enjoy this aspect of away games’ and looking into solutions is something that has maybe been needed for a little while now? We might be like to 98% of other fans, but shlouldnt we strive to be better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I don’t get the drinking bit. I bet these fans drink just as much at home matches but don’t throw seats. Also I don’t think taking drinks into the stand will help. If seats are getting thrown a 3/4 full plastic pint pot is more convenient to throw. Most of the stuff we see today is power puff compared to the 80’s. Most of the fighting was fighting now days it’s mainly shouting and everyone pulls out a phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: discussing how it happened, why it happened and let’s make sure it doesn’t happen again I mean it's pretty simple, some idiots drank too much and acted like dheads. Not sure you can stop stuff like that happening though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Gritters said: I don’t get the drinking bit. I bet these fans drink just as much at home matches but don’t throw seats. Also I don’t think taking drinks into the stand will help. If seats are getting thrown a 3/4 full plastic pint pot is more convenient to throw. Most of the stuff we see today is power puff compared to the 80’s. Most of the fighting was fighting now days it’s mainly shouting and everyone pulls out a phone. I like to drink but not to a point you dont know what you are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Love an awayday.. Nothing has changed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Can’t the gate stewards refuse entry if someone is obviously drunk or high on drugs? Bottom line is the stewards are there for our safety. Watching it all kick off is not doing what they’re supposed to do. Picking on a bloke pushing his disabled kid is obviously an easy target. What I never understand is the age and physical appearance of some of the stewards employed by stadiums. Young lads and girls thrown in the away end to make the numbers up. It’s a professional occupation controlling a crowd and spotting trouble before it happens. Its about time they took it seriously. Clamp down hard on the idiots, shame them in public, send out a warning. Don’t just stand there, it will quickly get out of control if the majority of people around the situation think the stewards don’t care. Then you’ll have a problem and the club will get a reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: A person had to go to hospital for something they weren’t involved in. Minority or not it’s worth discussing how it happened, why it happened and let’s make sure it doesn’t happen again. Saying it’s not me, but a minority of others only washes our hands of responsibility but what if it happens again. Maybe fans saying ‘you know what I don’t enjoy this aspect of away games’ and looking into solutions is something that has maybe been needed for a little while now? We might be like to 98% of other fans, but shlouldnt we strive to be better? Absolutely. Talk about it, they need banning. My point was I don't want that to stop people going to watch the club they support because of this. Saturday was an extreme case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, angieram said: I agree. I find the best awaydays are those where there are a smaller number of us (sorry, that does sound a bit "We're better than you"!) Oldham and Hull away in cup were great atmospheres - Hull in league was much worse for us - larger numbers and surrounded by drunks. Also a lot of nasty chants at the opposition, whereas on the Tuesday we were having a laugh with each other. Some clubs have great stewards - Cardiff, Hull, Reading are all ok, My worst steward experiences have been at Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday and just this last week at Rotherham. Anything in common there I wonder? Think part of the problem comes from the mentality of ‘it’s about me and my mates and no one else matters’. We’ve all done it on a Saturday night in a club/bar/pub but when surrounded by families and people just trying to enjoy a hobby takes it one step too far. Heres a thing, do we not take our own stewards away anymore? Always thought that was a good system re:communication between fan and stewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I do simual job to them What they should have done gone had words with and said something along these lines. Look guys I know your team is losing I know frusrated but I will not put up with this behavour or your out and will miss rest of the game. If they done this I promise you this would not have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: I do simual job to them What they should have done gone had words with and said something along these lines. Look guys I know your team is losing I know frusrated but I will not put up with this behavour or your out and will miss rest of the game. If they done this I promise you this would not have happened. They probably would have thrown that seat at you instead. You're acting like they have a brain between them mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 If say in stern enough voice they will listen in my time I have had to deal with seat throwing but I have found stern enough talking too is a good tool to have. But they need to see you mean it. And not just a false warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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