Remy the hare Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-45271094 Maybe one for loweman to bid for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Remy the hare said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-45271094 Maybe one for loweman to bid for? And as if by magic here they are ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Remy the hare Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 They are up for auction on 31st August. How do you have copies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Brian Clough was certainly charismatic, but no less a bit of a ********* when all said and done. I'm not from that era, but I don't think a person's sporting achievements should allow them to get away with things like unjustified expenses, not going on pre-season, etc. No doubt a number of people are clouded in their judgement. I'd be interested to learn more, perhaps I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ambitious said: Brian Clough was certainly charismatic, but no less a bit of a ********* when all said and done. I'm not from that era, but I don't think a person's sporting achievements should allow them to get away with things like unjustified expenses, not going on pre-season, etc. No doubt a number of people are clouded in their judgement. I'd be interested to learn more, perhaps I'm wrong. Certainly seems like a difficult situation all round. If Clough is was acting like he was too good to be sacked, st the height of his powers, and could therefore do what he wanted, what’s a chairman supposed to do. You put up with it for so long, and the you’re forced into a position where you can’t take it no more. Id say it’s a chairman’s duty in that situation to make sure a decent replacement is lined up, at the very least. And to be fair, Dave Mackay took over, and won us the league again. Man Utd can only wish their Fergie replacement went as well as that. Its after that that it all went to poo. I’m not of that era either, that’s just my take on having read the letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Clough vs Longson One is still talked about with Saint-like reverence. The other isn't really talked about much at all. History shows one winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 "Expelled from the league" what a load of boll.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: Clough vs Longson One is still talked about with Saint-like reverence. The other isn't really talked about much at all. History shows one winner. Nottingham Forest? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 53 minutes ago, Remy the hare said: They are up for auction on 31st August. How do you have copies? helping with the marketing of the auction, trying to attract as many people as can be before all of these dissapear never to be seen again, the more people who know about it the more people can bid and hopefully they will go to a like minded individual who will share them with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Ambitious said: Brian Clough was certainly charismatic, but no less a bit of a ********* when all said and done. I'm not from that era, but I don't think a person's sporting achievements should allow them to get away with things like unjustified expenses, not going on pre-season, etc. No doubt a number of people are clouded in their judgement. I'd be interested to learn more, perhaps I'm wrong. Yes you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 You had to be there really. Stomach churningly awful decision to part company with brian clough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Old Ram Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 BC was certainly a difficult man to work with but Longson’s decision to part company with him has to go down as one of the worse decisions in football history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just now, Matlock Old Ram said: BC was certainly a difficult man to work with but Longson’s decision to part company with him has to go down as one of the worse decisions in football history The older I get the more I start to nderstand longson. However it is a results game and the facts are clear it was an awful decision. Did BC going through that and Leeds ultimately make him a better manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Old Ram Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 You have to remember that Cloughie had taken us to the pinnacle of English football. We were THE team. I can still remember how distraught I felt when he left and it still hurts to think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCG Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 We need to remember Clough resigned. He was definitely a bit of a prima donna. Clough actually regretted his decision and told Roy Mac (when Roy was manager) that it was foolish to argue with the Chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 16 hours ago, Matlock Old Ram said: Longson’s decision to part company with him has to go down as one of the worse decisions in football history A lot of stuff written at the time hinted that stuff going on with and around BC was bringing the club into disrepute with the FA. There was talk at the time that the FA were looking to take BC (and Derby) down a peg or two. IF that was true then Longson had a duty to take the helicopter view and protect his(our) club. I remember my late Father in Law who I think had shares, but certainly knew many at the top of DCFC, was of the opinion that no-one was happy but " he had to go". It is interesting that the letter being quoted is unsigned, this must cast some doubt over its provenance. It may have been a draft that was later toned down or discarded. I guess we'll never know the absolute truth (if there is such a thing when it comes to interpersonal issues) with neither party able to comment. BC: Great manager, difficult employee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickD Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I am from that era. Saw all the big games, Spurs, Real, Juve etc. Met B.C. twice (only because he bought his cheese from my Mother in Law at the supermarket she worked in). Had two very pleasant conversations, a nice man. However you only have to see the interviews etc. on YouTube to see the change in him in front of the cameras. Look up obnoxious in the dictionary, there is a picture of B.C.. Playing to the crowd? Of course. A legend in his own mind? Sure It could have been Derby who won the European Cup twice, who knows? Still the best manager never to have led England, his fault? Old big head? Most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 9 hours ago, MickD said: I am from that era. Saw all the big games, Spurs, Real, Juve etc. Met B.C. twice (only because he bought his cheese from my Mother in Law at the supermarket she worked in). Had two very pleasant conversations, a nice man. However you only have to see the interviews etc. on YouTube to see the change in him in front of the cameras. Look up obnoxious in the dictionary, there is a picture of B.C.. Playing to the crowd? Of course. A legend in his own mind? Sure It could have been Derby who won the European Cup twice, who knows? Still the best manager never to have led England, his fault? Old big head? Most likely Agree but if the wasn’t a big head he wouldn’t have been a great manager. He was there at the right time earlier he wouldn’t have had the opportunity later he wouldn’t have been able to manage the egos of the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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