Parsnip Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I'd genuinely want Mac3 on a contract till the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Gaz has only been here 5 mins, his son would murder him if he went to stoke. ? If Mel has a contingency plan I would suggest a double act along the lines of Starsky and Hutch I.e Goddard and Saunders or Billy D and Sammy Lee aka the Krankies. I claim the award for the most surreal post on this nonsensical thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 16 hours ago, Inglorius said: Might as well start a thread entitled "If my auntie had a thingie what would she be" Popular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Not sure what is worse, that Mark Hughes hasn't cleared his desk yet and Derby fans are compiling lists of managers they want to replace Rowett, or that those lists have the names Nigel Clough and Steve McClaren on them. Quicker Stoke can appoint a manager the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Simon Clough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 People are deluding thenselves if they think Rowett would stay at Derby over an established Premier League side. We’re about 6-8 years away from where Stoke are now, where they deem their current position to be terrible. I’d love the Joka here, his teams play great football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Dean Smith - Brentford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowram Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: People are deluding thenselves if they think Rowett would stay at Derby over an established Premier League side. We’re about 6-8 years away from where Stoke are now, where they deem their current position to be terrible. I’d love the Joka here, his teams play great football. Within 4 months we could be promoted and Stoke could be relegated with half their first team squad wanting to join us. Where did you get 6-8 years from? It hasn't taken 6-8 years for Wagner to transform a bunch of no hopers like Huddersfield into a credible side or indeed for the likes of Sunderland and Hull to disintegrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Harrowram said: Within 4 months we could be promoted and Stoke could be relegated with half their first team squad wanting to join us. Where did you get 6-8 years from? It hasn't taken 6-8 years for Wagner to transform a bunch of no hopers like Huddersfield into a credible side or indeed for the likes of Sunderland and Hull to disintegrate. Would Huddersfield deem their season terrible and call for their manager’s head if they were sat in 16th place in the Premier League. Stoke are miles ahead because they finished 9th three seasons in a row, then 13th was deemed a wobble and 16th disastrious and a sackable offence. It would take Derby years to get promoted, establish themselves and build a squad up where 16th in the table became a sackable offence. Most on here would gladly take 17th for the first few years if we managed to go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowram Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Anything is possible once you are in the Premier League due to the additional revenue. Stoke's previous seasons records are irrelevant. They are a side currently in decline due to an ageing squad and a few poor transfer decisions. I have no doubt that the first season will be difficult for Derby. However Huddersfield and Brighton are doing ok, and Newcastle are coping despite difficult circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I have refused to comment on this and I will continue do so as it is irrelevant ( I know I have just contradicted myself)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K14 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Steve McClaren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Would Huddersfield deem their season terrible and call for their manager’s head if they were sat in 16th place in the Premier League. Stoke are miles ahead because they finished 9th three seasons in a row, then 13th was deemed a wobble and 16th disastrious and a sackable offence. It would take Derby years to get promoted, establish themselves and build a squad up where 16th in the table became a sackable offence. Most on here would gladly take 17th for the first few years if we managed to go up. Where Stoke finished in 2016/15/14 is irrelevant, Stoke are currently in the bottom 3, Derby 2nd in the Championship, it's not unthinkable that Derby would be playing in a league above this established Premier League side next year. Aston Villa have shown how quickly you can go from being that established Premier League side to Championship, at the same time both Brighton and Huddersfield to top 12 Premier League. 3 weeks left of the window to walk in, assess, identify and strengthen the squad and 16 games to survive, avoid having a relegation to your name, possibly losing your job. Or finish the job what you are doing with a squad understanding what you want from them, bang in form, promotion on the CV, have a full summer to strengthen and potentially 38 games to see what you are capable of in the Premier League. It's not delusion to think Rowett would not be interested, it's looking at the bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, David said: Where Stoke finished in 2016/15/14 is irrelevant, Stoke are currently in the bottom 3, Derby 2nd in the Championship, it's not unthinkable that Derby would be playing in a league above this established Premier League side next year. Aston Villa have shown how quickly you can go from being that established Premier League side to Championship, at the same time both Brighton and Huddersfield to top 12 Premier League. 3 weeks left of the window to walk in, assess, identify and strengthen the squad and 16 games to survive, avoid having a relegation to your name, possibly losing your job. Or finish the job what you are doing with a squad understanding what you want from them, bang in form, promotion on the CV, have a full summer to strengthen and potentially 38 games to see what you are capable of in the Premier League. It's not delusion to think Rowett would not be interested, it's looking at the bigger picture. Stoke are one win away from 12th, they have a squad that would take years and millions for derby to build. Any manager who has any confidence in his ability would probably be looking at a finish in the European positions next year rather than facing a relegation battle. Both getting promotion and staying in the league with both squads should be achievable to a capable manager, however I’m not sure why the bigger picture would be staying with Derby. If losing his job is a fear through failure then you are right no point in moving, as that is not an attribute of a winner or someone who will make it to the top. If it was staying as he could achieve greater things at Derby, then fair enough, but Id be surprised and disappointed if he wasn’t interested even if it was to strengthen his position here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, AdamRam said: Stoke are one win away from 12th, they have a squad that would take years and millions for derby to build. Any manager who has any confidence in his ability would probably be looking at a finish in the European positions next year rather than facing a relegation battle. Both getting promotion and staying in the league with both squads should be achievable to a capable manager, however I’m not sure why the bigger picture would be staying with Derby. If losing his job is a fear through failure then you are right no point in moving, as that is not an attribute of a winner or someone who will make it to the top. If it was staying as he could achieve greater things at Derby, then fair enough, but Id be surprised and disappointed if he wasn’t interested even if it was to strengthen his position here. Strange really I look at their squad and I think bar 3-4 players who are good the rest are at best average or can’t be bothered types Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Just now, Sparkle said: Strange really I look at their squad and I think bar 3-4 players who are good the rest are at best average or can’t be bothered types If you looked at our squad under Pearson would you have thought the same ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Sparkle said: Strange really I look at their squad and I think bar 3-4 players who are good the rest are at best average or can’t be bothered types If we played Stoke today, I believe we would beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, AdamRam said: If you looked at our squad under Pearson would you have thought the same ? Yep, but at least we are the correct side of the wheel currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, AdamRam said: Stoke are one win away from 12th, they have a squad that would take years and millions for derby to build. Any manager who has any confidence in his ability would probably be looking at a finish in the European positions next year rather than facing a relegation battle. Both getting promotion and staying in the league with both squads should be achievable to a capable manager, however I’m not sure why the bigger picture would be staying with Derby. If losing his job is a fear through failure then you are right no point in moving, as that is not an attribute of a winner or someone who will make it to the top. If it was staying as he could achieve greater things at Derby, then fair enough, but Id be surprised and disappointed if he wasn’t interested even if it was to strengthen his position here. One win from 12th makes it sound easier than what it is, that one win needs to come on a weekend where Brighton, Newcastle, Palace, West Ham, Bournemouth and Southampton all lose. Theres also the matter of -14 goal difference gap. I'm also struggling with the vision of Stoke in European place next year, that would need one hell of a summer. Whilst the squad should be capable of much more than it currently is, they are some way of having a squad competing at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 hours ago, David said: One win from 12th makes it sound easier than what it is, that one win needs to come on a weekend where Brighton, Newcastle, Palace, West Ham, Bournemouth and Southampton all lose. Theres also the matter of -14 goal difference gap. I'm also struggling with the vision of Stoke in European place next year, that would need one hell of a summer. Whilst the squad should be capable of much more than it currently is, they are some way of having a squad competing at the top. Not sure why you are struggling with either scenario. Everton and Palace have both shown it’s easy to climb the table, and Stoke have been in Europe during their stint in the PL. I think it was you (apologies if not) who said GR is a good manager, therefore do you not think he can emulate and improve against previous managers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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