Bris Vegas Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Thoughts? http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39798344 Uefa has trialled a new penalty shootout system for the first time in a competitive game. The system - similar to the tie-break in tennis - was used during the European Women's Under-17 semi-final between Germany and Norway on Thursday. Germany missed their first three penalties but still beat Norway 3-2 to reach the final of the tournament in the Czech Republic. The sport's European governing body is seeking to make shootouts fairer. The new system is also being trialled at the men's under-17 tournament in Croatia, which has not yet reached the knockout stage. What makes the perfect World Cup shootout penalty? How does it work? As the current system stands, teams take turns in a shootout, with the choice of who goes first decided by a coin toss. For example, team A goes first, then team B, then team A again. The new system is called 'ABBA' and sees team A followed by team B - before team B goes again. Team A would then get two successive penalties, and so on until there is a winner. A coin will still be tossed to decide who goes first. Why is a change needed? The idea is to stop the team going second having to always, potentially, play catch-up. The sport's rule-making body, Ifab, approved the trial after looking at the research that says the team taking the first penalty have an unfair advantage as they win 60% of shootouts. "The hypothesis is that the player taking the second kick in the pair is under greater mental pressure," said Uefa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 They still have to take 5 kicks each whatever the system..... If it ain't broke..... What puzzles me they want to play around with this, but are frightened to mic refs up like in other sports..... they'll get the respect then off players..... instead of messing with daft ideas like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I still prefer the old offside rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Not convinced by the change. The game is for the fans and they love the drama and the pressure. Pressure is what the players get millions for, like any other well-paid profession. If you're looking for a change in rules, what about replacing ridiculous throw-ins (rules about behind the head etc seem to be ignored) with drop-kicks? Kicking the ball seems to be quite key in football so why have a set piece where you use your hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Thoughts? http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39798344 Uefa has trialled a new penalty shootout system for the first time in a competitive game. The system - similar to the tie-break in tennis - was used during the European Women's Under-17 semi-final between Germany and Norway on Thursday. Germany missed their first three penalties but still beat Norway 3-2 to reach the final of the tournament in the Czech Republic. The sport's European governing body is seeking to make shootouts fairer. The new system is also being trialled at the men's under-17 tournament in Croatia, which has not yet reached the knockout stage. What makes the perfect World Cup shootout penalty? How does it work? As the current system stands, teams take turns in a shootout, with the choice of who goes first decided by a coin toss. For example, team A goes first, then team B, then team A again. The new system is called 'ABBA' and sees team A followed by team B - before team B goes again. Team A would then get two successive penalties, and so on until there is a winner. A coin will still be tossed to decide who goes first. Why is a change needed? The idea is to stop the team going second having to always, potentially, play catch-up. The sport's rule-making body, Ifab, approved the trial after looking at the research that says the team taking the first penalty have an unfair advantage as they win 60% of shootouts. "The hypothesis is that the player taking the second kick in the pair is under greater mental pressure," said Uefa. I like this new ABBA approach, does it mean the winner takes it all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Scrap shoot outs and 2 x 15min extra time. Just play until someone scores, regardless how long/short it takes, after 90 mins, if tied. Or who has the least bookings wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, McRamFan said: Scrap shoot outs and 2 x 15min extra time. Just play until someone scores, regardless how long/short it takes, after 90 mins, if tied. Or who has the least bookings wins. Crazy idea...did you not go to Derby vs Burton? We would still be there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Crazy, they're losing it totally finally. This could be Uefa's Waterloo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 50 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Not convinced by the change. The game is for the fans and they love the drama and the pressure. Pressure is what the players get millions for, like any other well-paid profession. This. Keep it simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 "The idea is to stop the team going second having to always, potentially, play catch-up. The sport's rule-making body, Ifab, approved the trial after looking at the research that says the team taking the first penalty have an unfair advantage as they win 60% of shootouts." Changing it for 60%?! And still a team will win the toss and go first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Penalty shoot outs don't need to be fair. They're a last resort if teams can't be separated by actually playing football. No changes should ever be made to incentivise playing for penalties. The fetishisation of penalty shoot outs says an awful lot about where the modern game is heading. Fewer and fewer people have the attention span required to sit through an entire game and football is increasingly consumed in short clips via mobile phones and social media. In this climate it makes perfect sense that 5 minutes of high drama is exalted over the preceding 120 minutes. The Corinthians will be spinning in their graves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 In womens football if the game is a draw, then the match could be decided by lining up the five best penalty takers and just deciding who has got the best legs. alternatively extra time could be played in stilettoes. it wouldn't really translate to the men's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Paul71 said: Crazy idea...did you not go to Derby vs Burton? We would still be there now. Crazy, true, however the players would earn their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 1 minute ago, McRamFan said: Crazy, true, however the players would earn their money. First for everything then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 1 hour ago, RamNut said: In womens football if the game is a draw, then the match could be decided by lining up the five best penalty takers and just deciding who has got the best legs. alternatively extra time could be played in stilettoes. it wouldn't really translate to the men's game. I dont know, i reckon this season some of the Derby players were in stilettos instead of boots. Might explaing the performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_chop Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 They should play kerby to decide instead of penalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 On 5/13/2017 at 09:43, one_chop said: They should play kerby to decide instead of penalties Redarse would be more entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Let the team that scores first in actual play go first, simple really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 A bit like tie breaks in tennis. Seems fair to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Sparkle said: Let the team that scores first in actual play go first, simple really I like this idea, but what if it's 0-0? You might as well just flip a coin and dispense with the shoot out to be honest. Having said that, if you win the toss don't you get to either go first, or decide which end your shooting in. This new idea takes away the very slight (10%) advantage of going first, but not the probablybfar greater advantage of shooting towards you're own fans. So it means if you win the toss, you know there's not much advantage to going first now, so I will choose to gonsecond and shoot towards my own fans. Somits still not completely fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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