BarrowRam Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I hope tomorrow what ever system we play we can get the result we all want. Then hopefully we can start to get a run of games together picking up some points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, HantsRam said: I think for me, the players need to have confidence in the manager and belief in his instructions. Adaptability comes from these basic beliefs. The greater the difference in what a player is being asked to do to what he is used to, then the greater the belief needed. Unfortunately, good results breeds belief. It's a kind of amplification mechanism. We're currently in a place I feel, where the players have dwindling belief in pearsons instructions and thiwill continue until such instructions can be shown to have a positive impact on performance and hence results. Mac got immediate positivity. Ipswich 2nd half then Watford soon after. Pearson has not been as fortunate in his impact. Indeed it seems to me like the players subconsciously don't believe in what pearsons asking them, most likely like you say down to the poor results knocking their confidence. I don't think they nessercerily don't like what pearsons asking them to do, rather that the results are messing with them mentally meaning they are struggling to believe and adapt to pearsons systems- this is what I've mentioned quite a lot that our squad seems to have a weak mentality, meaning when things go wrong they really go wrong like now. Of course this is all just guesswork, no one really knows for sure what Pearson is telling our team to do or what they think about that- all we can do is speculate and hope something changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Indeed it seems to me like the players subconsciously don't believe in what pearsons asking them, most likely like you say down to the poor results knocking their confidence. I don't think they nessercerily don't like what pearsons asking them to do, rather that the results are messing with them mentally meaning they are struggling to believe and adapt to pearsons systems- this is what I've mentioned quite a lot that our squad seems to have a weak mentality, meaning when things go wrong they really go wrong like now. Of course this is all just guesswork, no one really knows for sure what Pearson is telling our team to do or what they think about that- all we can do is speculate and hope something changes Spot on mate. Speaking from experience in completely unrelated fields, if you get a new boss then your first reaction is something like. .."who is this guy? What's he done and where?". Then if he starts dishing out instructions you can frame those against your knowledge of his achievements. Sometimes you have faith and sometimes cynicism. Footballers are only human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, HantsRam said: Spot on mate. Speaking from experience in completely unrelated fields, if you get a new boss then your first reaction is something like. .."who is this guy? What's he done and where?". Then if he starts dishing out instructions you can frame those against your knowledge of his achievements. Sometimes you have faith and sometimes cynicism. Footballers are only human. Agreed, I certainly know if I was in their shoes I would be doubting what Pearsons saying after the start we've had! But I'm sure the players want what's best for the club, well at least I hope they do, and I hope between them and Pearson they can sort this mess out, and hopefully start getting pearsons ideas transferred to the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 We will see if Butterfield can walk that walk then...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I'd be interested to know why the players think they've gone from promotion candidates to relegation strugglers within a few months if they can adapt? Butterfield is the sort of player who, if played in the right role, can be the difference at this level. When he's stuck out wide, we may as well put a road cone out there and paint a beard on it. In fact, the fact that every single player in the squad has played a lot better elsewhere / under different managers in the last 12-18 months tells its own story. The players can be better, sure, but if you get a translator who specialises in purely English to German and ask him to translate English to Russia, he isn't going to be anywhere near as effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I still think Paddy Butterfield looks like Jacob Considine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, mozza said: I still think Paddy Butterfield looks like Jacob Considine Steve Butterfield is a dead ringer for Jacob Brummie. Except I'm 40 years older. Bald on top. Rubbish at football. Look like back end of dirty bus. How about it Nige? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 28 minutes ago, steve brummie said: Steve Butterfield is a dead ringer for Jacob Brummie. Except I'm 40 years older. Bald on top. Rubbish at football. Look like back end of dirty bus. How about it Nige? could work , striker , maybe , you'd only be 1 goal behind our top scorers , and they have an 8 game advantage on you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 11 hours ago, curtains said: Mel no longer visits the forum ? Banned , Mel , not you mate , never ban you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Idealist thought, Mr. Butterfield. But you can keep dreaming. Surely some players can, usually CB's and CM's who read the game well. If those are only good players then fair enough. But think about proper winger (S. Wright-Phillips for example), how in the hell you change his game? Of course you can, but you ain't using his strengths and just ruin his game. Simple example, but I'm just trying to say it would be easier and better to use players strengths instead trying to mould them something they are not so good at. Even writing this makes me frustrated. ******* Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Horses for courses , old dog new tricks , square pegs round holes , many more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 The noose is tightening , we really could do with a win today , don't care how we get it , even try Carson up front , good players can adapt , but it makes more sense to play to their strengths . anyway , i'm off to lay some bricks , do i need to take my chop-saw and planer with me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, mozza said: The noose is tightening , we really could do with a win today , don't care how we get it , even try Carson up front , good players can adapt , but it makes more sense to play to their strengths . anyway , i'm off to lay some bricks , do i need to take my chop-saw and planer with me ? My father-in-law was a builder, and he always seemed to take a labrador, a newspaper to read and a funny little old bloke whose only job just seemed to wander around carrying a bucket of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, WhiteHorseRam said: My father-in-law was a builder, and he always seemed to take a labrador, a newspaper to read and a funny little old bloke whose only job just seemed to wander around carrying a bucket of water. i reckon i know him , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, mozza said: i reckon i know him , The father in law or the old boy with the bucket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 hour ago, archied said: The father in law or the old boy with the bucket? sorry for the late reply, the old guy with the bucket. the one I knew always used to sweep the same debris from one side of the room to the other,to look busy when the gaffer was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 2 hours ago, mozza said: The noose is tightening , we really could do with a win today , don't care how we get it , even try Carson up front , good players can adapt , but it makes more sense to play to their strengths . anyway , i'm off to lay some bricks , do i need to take my chop-saw and planer with me ? Nah, I'm sure as a professional that you're adaptable mate. Take your torque wrench and a crochet hook - you'll be reet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I know someone who reckons if you invest in a battery screwdriver , you can revamp a kitchen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, mozza said: I know someone who reckons if you invest in a battery screwdriver , you can revamp a kitchen.. Didn't invest in it and anyone can adapt to being a joiner, just need a hammer and a straight face when you hand over the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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