Bris Vegas Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Wolves, Brentford and Bristol City are the only home games where I think we put in anything like a decent performance. I go to football to be entertained. The style Clement used was a disaster waiting to happen. The fact that we never came from behind was no coincidence. How many times did we go behind before Boxing Day? We took draws from Boro, Brighton and Bimringham, I can't recall too many others other than the defeats to Leeds and Forest. I also want to be entertained. And towards the end it was poor as it was slow, rigid and lacking in creativity. But the games before that weren't that bad. Again it wasn't free flowing stuff, but it was far better than anything else we've had this side of the millennium bar Burley/McClaren's reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, rynny said: Those 3 games, whilst not exactly poor, we were just about hitting average. Really? Perhaps for the money we sent, we should be having about 30 efforts on goal every game. So I guess the 20 or so we managed against both Brum and Brighton could be seen as average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 30 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: How many times did we go behind before Boxing Day? We took draws from Boro, Brighton and Bimringham, I can't recall too many others other than the defeats to Leeds and Forest. I also want to be entertained. And towards the end it was poor as it was slow, rigid and lacking in creativity. But the games before that weren't that bad. Again it wasn't free flowing stuff, but it was far better than anything else we've had this side of the millennium bar Burley/McClaren's reign. I would argue that at times it was less exciting than some of the football we played under NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Whether its this thread or others it matters not. This constant bickering and over analysing, going forever over & over, round & round is getting soooo tedious. Not really sure why I bother with this anymore. Debating? maybe but for me the enjoyable camaraderie of discussing Derby County with fellow fans has been replaced by seemingly always trying to defend the club or its players from so called fellow "fans" who quite honestly I haven't got the time of day for. I'm not suggesting for a minute I will be missed but quite honestly I can't be bothered anymore so......................................... I'm out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 14 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Where has this perception come from that we played poorly/mediocre for much of Clement's reign? So you don't remember all the strong criticism and bile that you were spouting in the matchday threads/chat then?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Wolfie said: So you don't remember all the strong criticism and bile that you were spouting in the matchday threads/chat then?. I don't ever use the matchday chat, so must be confusing me with somebody else. I criticised our play from Boxing Day onwards, but rarely before that, even in our defeat to Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 we played no better on the whole before boxing than we have since, it just losing makes us question performances more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: Really? Perhaps for the money we sent, we should be having about 30 efforts on goal every game. So I guess the 20 or so we managed against both Brum and Brighton could be seen as average. Didn't highlight Brighton, as I didn't see that game. But Brum we were average, shots at goal could mean anything and isn't exactly a great indicator of how a team played, of the 20 shots 17 of them could have been pea rollers to the keeper from 40 yards. Plus at that point we hadn't spent a great deal of money and against Boro so throwing that pathetic line at me doesn't wash Bris, and I expected better from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Whether its this thread or others it matters not. This constant bickering and over analysing, going forever over & over, round & round is getting soooo tedious. Not really sure why I bother with this anymore. Debating? maybe but for me the enjoyable camaraderie of discussing Derby County with fellow fans has been replaced by seemingly always trying to defend the club or its players from so called fellow "fans" who quite honestly I haven't got the time of day for. I'm not suggesting for a minute I will be missed but quite honestly I can't be bothered anymore so......................................... I'm out! You'll be back, we just won't know it! Take care TSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Whether its this thread or others it matters not. This constant bickering and over analysing, going forever over & over, round & round is getting soooo tedious. Not really sure why I bother with this anymore. Debating? maybe but for me the enjoyable camaraderie of discussing Derby County with fellow fans has been replaced by seemingly always trying to defend the club or its players from so called fellow "fans" who quite honestly I haven't got the time of day for. I'm not suggesting for a minute I will be missed but quite honestly I can't be bothered anymore so......................................... I'm out! I sort of know what you mean. Every thread seems to go the same I rarely comment on the actual football because I can't be bothered with the too cool for school guys who think you're mentally challenged if you write in any positive way. It's a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 3 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Whether its this thread or others it matters not. This constant bickering and over analysing, going forever over & over, round & round is getting soooo tedious. Not really sure why I bother with this anymore. Debating? maybe but for me the enjoyable camaraderie of discussing Derby County with fellow fans has been replaced by seemingly always trying to defend the club or its players from so called fellow "fans" who quite honestly I haven't got the time of day for. I'm not suggesting for a minute I will be missed but quite honestly I can't be bothered anymore so......................................... I'm out! Don't go m8 you will miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 7 hours ago, TroyDyer said: I think Wassalls interviews are as worrying as the performances. There is trying to focus on positives, and then there is trying to polish a turd. A good friend of mine remarked that his interview style reminded him of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 4 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Whether its this thread or others it matters not. This constant bickering and over analysing, going forever over & over, round & round is getting soooo tedious. Not really sure why I bother with this anymore. Debating? maybe but for me the enjoyable camaraderie of discussing Derby County with fellow fans has been replaced by seemingly always trying to defend the club or its players from so called fellow "fans" who quite honestly I haven't got the time of day for. I'm not suggesting for a minute I will be missed but quite honestly I can't be bothered anymore so......................................... I'm out! Keep the faith fella. We need heads up types like yourself on here lest we be left with only the wrist slashers. Couldn't be doing with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 23 hours ago, Anag Ram said: A win's a win but let's not pretend we're Barcelona. Thanks for the tip. I'll try and bear that in mind. Jeez :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 6 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Whether its this thread or others it matters not. This constant bickering and over analysing, going forever over & over, round & round is getting soooo tedious. Not really sure why I bother with this anymore. Debating? maybe but for me the enjoyable camaraderie of discussing Derby County with fellow fans has been replaced by seemingly always trying to defend the club or its players from so called fellow "fans" who quite honestly I haven't got the time of day for. I'm not suggesting for a minute I will be missed but quite honestly I can't be bothered anymore so......................................... I'm out! That would be a great shame TSP. Nil carborundum desperandum and all that old boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 6 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: I would argue that at times it was less exciting than some of the football we played under NC. With due respect you'd probably find an argument in a telephone box. You continual assertions about how poor the team has been all year wear pretty thin. We were top of the league just before Christmas so I assume you're implying every other side is utter ***** or was it down to some strange space and time anomaly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 8 hours ago, 86 points said: With due respect you'd probably find an argument in a telephone box. You continual assertions about how poor the team has been all year wear pretty thin. We were top of the league just before Christmas so I assume you're implying every other side is utter ***** or was it down to some strange space and time anomaly? This is not something that I am just saying with hindsight, I have been saying all season that I didn't think everything seemed right. You seem unable to distinguish between league position and quality of football. Man United have been in Champions League places for most of the season, so I assume all of their fans are happy with LvG using your logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 23 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: This is not something that I am just saying with hindsight, I have been saying all season that I didn't think everything seemed right. You seem unable to distinguish between league position and quality of football. Man United have been in Champions League places for most of the season, so I assume all of their fans are happy with LvG using your logic? I agree about the football under Nigel. He got the team playing some really good football at times. Some of the Commons/Hulse side's attacking was quite impressive, the few months when we had Kuqi upfront was often brilliant, and the last year of Nigel's tenure featured a lot of very neat, quick passing. The problem was, that Nigel also seemed to have this odd 'Private Frazer' side where he'd suddenly go all negative and negate all of his good work. Replacing Kuqi with Moore was just stupid and constantly bringing on Jake to steady the ship when the ship was motoring towards victory and didn't need steadying was just insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 40 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: This is not something that I am just saying with hindsight, I have been saying all season that I didn't think everything seemed right. You seem unable to distinguish between league position and quality of football. Man United have been in Champions League places for most of the season, so I assume all of their fans are happy with LvG using your logic? Let's not pull the wool over our eyes right lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: I agree about the football under Nigel. He got the team playing some really good football at times. Some of the Commons/Hulse side's attacking was quite impressive, the few months when we had Kuqi upfront was often brilliant, and the last year of Nigel's tenure featured a lot of very neat, quick passing. The problem was, that Nigel also seemed to have this odd 'Private Frazer' side where he'd suddenly go all negative and negate all of his good work. Replacing Kuqi with Moore was just stupid and constantly bringing on Jake to steady the ship when the ship was motoring towards victory and didn't need steadying was just insane. Exactly my thoughts. Luckily it was only normally the last 30 minutes where were negative as opposed to all 90 minutes under PC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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