Mafiabob Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Funny how the majority right wing press didn't report this.... Will include the few lefty ones too... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-anti-isis-march-not-covered-by-mainstream-media-outlets-say-organisers-a6765976.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 2 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: Funny how the majority right wing press didn't report this.... Will include the few lefty ones too... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-anti-isis-march-not-covered-by-mainstream-media-outlets-say-organisers-a6765976.html I thought about posting that link on here yesterday, but I thought it would be ignored by those who really needed to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Shocking really. I'm always trawling news websites etc. and I'm actually a bit annoyed that this is the first I've heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 10 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: Funny how the majority right wing press didn't report this.... Will include the few lefty ones too... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-anti-isis-march-not-covered-by-mainstream-media-outlets-say-organisers-a6765976.html I also saw this yesterday but I couldn't link it from my windows phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I love the irony of the mainstream media condemning the mainstream media for not covering it. The organisers of the march say the media stayed silent and all the papers point the finger at each other using it as ammo to discredit other media sources, despite the fact they didn't cover it either. Mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 That's the strangest anti-ISIS march I've seen. It looks like a 'this has nothing to do with Islam, stop saying mean things about my religion' march to me. So Islam needs no reform, nothing to see here. Did people actually read the signs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'd also say the headline is misleading. It wasn't an anti-ISIS march. It was a customary event they hold every year. And the organisers decided to make it political. And by the professionalism of the signs it looks as though the organisers made and dispersed the signs as well. So a load of Muslims didn't decide to congregate specifically to condemn ISIS (and do a poor job of it - ISIS are Muslims people, deal with it!). I wonder if anybody actually bothered to notify the press? I can't think why the mainstream press would cover an annual minority religious event. But to not notify the press and then cry 'Islamophobia' when the press don't cover the thing that wouldn't ordinarily be covered anyway? Ah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Looks like a rubbish protest to me. A couple of hundred people? Big deal. Show me 25,000 - 30,000 Sunni muslims denouncing IS and I might be a little more convinced. A small group of Shia muslims showing their distaste for a Sunni group is neither here nor there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 8 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: That's nothing, its only a matter of time before Corbyn is personally responsible for the rise of Al Qaeda, Isis, the Twin Towers, London 2007, Stalin, Adolf Hitler, the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand and Simon Cowell. He should never be forgiven for Simon Cowell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 3 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Looks like a rubbish protest to me. A couple of hundred people? Big deal. Show me 25,000 - 30,000 Sunni muslims denouncing IS and I might be a little more convinced. A small group of Shia muslims showing their distaste for a Sunni group is neither here nor there. Trump says that parts of this country are a no-go area for the police Two policemen post anonymously that they have been told not to wear their uniforms when off-duty It makes the front page on some of the more rabid right-wing papers. Numbers, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 2 minutes ago, eddie said: Trump says that parts of this country are a no-go area for the police Two policemen post anonymously that they have been told not to wear their uniforms when off-duty It makes the front page on some of the more rabid right-wing papers. Numbers, eh? Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't police supposed to not wear uniform off duty anyway? Two of them? Out of the whole of the Met? An organisation not known for its liberal views. And this is held up as solid proof that we are on the edge of the abyss? Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't police supposed to not wear uniform off duty anyway? Two of them? Out of the whole of the Met? An organisation not known for its liberal views. And this is held up as solid proof that we are on the edge of the abyss? Brilliant. One was supposed to be the Met, the other one was supposed to be from Manchester. Now if it was people in Liverpool living in fear of their hubcaps.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 It's preposterous to think it could happen in London. I mean it's not like it's happened in several parts of France or anything is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't police supposed to not wear uniform off duty anyway? Two of them? Out of the whole of the Met? An organisation not known for its liberal views. And this is held up as solid proof that we are on the edge of the abyss? Brilliant. I've always been told I shouldn't really wear my uniform outside of the army reserve centre. It's probably mainly because I just look like a bit of a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 9 hours ago, TigerTedd said: I've always been told I shouldn't really wear my uniform outside of the army reserve centre. It's probably mainly because I just look like a bit of a ****. That's been the case for years. My brother had similar instructions about 30 years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 So any fearing for life from Islamic extremists is unfounded and only comparable to fear of the IRA? Well that's alright then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 8 minutes ago, StringerBell said: So any fearing for life from Islamic extremists is unfounded and only comparable to fear of the IRA? Well that's alright then Who has said that? For me, the point is that demonising an entire religion based on the actions of one group is a quicker route to the collapse of society. I for one am not going to be consumed by hate and paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 25 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Who has said that? For me, the point is that demonising an entire religion based on the actions of one group is a quicker route to the collapse of society. I for one am not going to be consumed by hate and paranoia. Because I'm led to believe that's why soldiers were told not to wear their uniforms in public 30 years ago. If you mean Trump then he might be paranoid if his drastic solution is anything to go by. I'm not too sure about hate. I don't know what evidence there is for Trump hating Muslims. And he isn't demonising an entire religion. Profiling, which is essentially what Trump has proposed, is controversial but it's not demonising an entire religion/ethnic/group/race/gender/whatever. And to say it is is to just lack nuance, to polarise the issue as bigots vs non-bigots and refuse to understand why somebody might think that's a good idea. Ironic coming from somebody who doesn't want to see an entire group demonised. You've just demonised people who believe in profiling, whatever their reasons might be, as paranoid and hateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 8 minutes ago, StringerBell said: Because I'm led to believe that's why soldiers were told not to wear their uniforms in public 30 years ago. If you mean Trump then he might be paranoid if his drastic solution is anything to go by. I'm not too sure about hate. I don't know what evidence there is for Trump hating Muslims. And he isn't demonising an entire religion. Profiling, which is essentially what Trump has proposed, is controversial but it's not demonising an entire religion/ethnic/group/race/gender/whatever. And to say it is is to just lack nuance, to polarise the issue as bigots vs non-bigots and refuse to understand why somebody might think that's a good idea. Ironic coming from somebody who doesn't want to see an entire group demonised. You've just demonised people who believe in profiling, whatever their reasons might be, as paranoid and hateful. You simply assumed I was talking about Trump. It is not a lack of nuance on my part but on the part of people that take pronouncements of Trump and demagogues like him as a call to arms. Trump knows this is the likely outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 3 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: You simply assumed I was talking about Trump. It is not a lack of nuance on my part but on the part of people that take pronouncements of Trump and demagogues like him as a call to arms. Trump knows this is the likely outcome. Yes I did. Trump may well be playing up to the religious nuts in the Deep South in order to get votes, funnily enough a bit like how political parties here (particularly Labour) play up to the Muslim communities for their (block) votes. It will be interesting to see what Cruz and Carson's response is during the debates I presume they'll be having. Defending Islam in reaction to Trump may well not be popular among many voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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