robglosta Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Can anyone now see any merit in not going with this, for any game scenario we might come across: Christie Keogh/Shackell Forsyth All four are playing out of their skin - I thought today was one of the most composed performances I have seen from Foz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano180 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Foz and Christie were awesome today just like the half time service by the catering staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgoodspeak Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Agreed. Only weak link for me now is Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Edited, not showing photo's for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 We're seeing the benefit of Shacks. Its a tragedy that we sold him after he was so good before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 if we hadn't sold Shackell , chances are we wouldn't have Keogh (although some may say ''yay'') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 1 minute ago, mozza said: if we hadn't sold Shackell , chances are we wouldn't have Keogh (although some may say ''yay'') He cost me a £15 megastore voucher today, yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 9 minutes ago, reveldevil said: He cost me a £15 megastore voucher today, yay! Well Rotherham didn't do my 3-1 scoreline prediction in the iPrediction League any favours either .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 44 minutes ago, drgoodspeak said: Agreed. Only weak link for me now is Russell. Really ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgoodspeak Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 He really frustrates me. He gets into good positions and sees a lot of the ball, but he doesn't use it well in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorksopRam Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 On Russell... Somethings gotta give when it comes to players, otherwise they'd be playing above us. I'm not saying there's nobody better out there. There might be a player who uses the ball better, but doesn't get into good positions or see much of the ball. Nobody's perfect at this level, so you've gotta see which is more important, which for me at the minute is Russell's general buzzing around style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby_Dave Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 1 hour ago, drgoodspeak said: Agreed. Only weak link for me now is Russell. Oh please. He may not be our most skillful player but is always direct and a threat. Oh why bother....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 2 hours ago, drgoodspeak said: Agreed. Only weak link for me now is Russell. Nah. Played well again. 2 hours ago, robglosta said: Can anyone now see any merit in not going with this, for any game scenario we might come across: Christie Keogh/Shackell Forsyth All four are playing out of their skin - I thought today was one of the most composed performances I have seen from Foz. I think that's been clearly the pick from day 1. Surprised how much Warnock's played to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 2 hours ago, drgoodspeak said: Agreed. Only weak link for me now is Russell. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 A much maligned stat, but I believe Russell is the leading assists player in the squad? Spose you've got to scapegoat someone - it's the Derby Way - even when we are doing this well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgoodspeak Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Calm down everyone. I'm not making anyone a scapegoat, we won, remember? My point is that after the summer transfer, if we had to further strengthen anywhere in January, my thought would have been fullbacks. This is not the case for me now. If I had to improve the team anywhere I'd be looking at another wide forward and at the moment Russell, Ince and Weimann can be improved on. I singled Russell out as he is the one that frustrates me the most. He does all the good work and then never seems to do the right, and obvious, thing. Before anyone else starts sighing into their dinner (or cornflakes), remember how tight this league is. It's pointed out in another thread that tiny margins might make the difference in getting into the top two. For all his running yesterday, and I'm not talking about his miss here, better use of the ball could have brought more rewards. We should always be aiming for improvement and I've no doubt that's what the coaching staff are constantly striving for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustylee Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 4 minutes ago, drgoodspeak said: Calm down everyone. I'm not making anyone a scapegoat, we won, remember? My point is that after the summer transfer, if we had to further strengthen anywhere in January, my thought would have been fullbacks. This is not the case for me now. If I had to improve the team anywhere I'd be looking at another wide forward and at the moment Russell, Ince and Weimann can be improved on. I singled Russell out as he is the one that frustrates me the most. He does all the good work and then never seems to do the right, and obvious, thing. Before anyone else starts sighing into their dinner (or cornflakes), remember how tight this league is. It's pointed out in another thread that tiny margins might make the difference in getting into the top two. For all his running yesterday, and I'm not talking about his miss here, better use of the ball could have brought more rewards. We should always be aiming for improvement and I've no doubt that's what the coaching staff are constantly striving for. Calling someone who is making a decent contribution a weak link is scapegoating in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 14 minutes ago, drgoodspeak said: Calm down everyone. I'm not making anyone a scapegoat, we won, remember? My point is that after the summer transfer, if we had to further strengthen anywhere in January, my thought would have been fullbacks. This is not the case for me now. If I had to improve the team anywhere I'd be looking at another wide forward and at the moment Russell, Ince and Weimann can be improved on. I singled Russell out as he is the one that frustrates me the most. He does all the good work and then never seems to do the right, and obvious, thing. Before anyone else starts sighing into their dinner (or cornflakes), remember how tight this league is. It's pointed out in another thread that tiny margins might make the difference in getting into the top two. For all his running yesterday, and I'm not talking about his miss here, better use of the ball could have brought more rewards. We should always be aiming for improvement and I've no doubt that's what the coaching staff are constantly striving for. Complaining about forwards in after we've just won 3-0 is an odd one. A lot of people see the noticeable stuff, goals, assists a good run past a defender. One thing they don't notice a lot is the effect that a good hard working forward has on the opposition. After Russell's early form, team's have clearly started paying more attention to him, and as such he's not making as noticeable a contribution. What is interesting though is since that, the other forwards have gotten more time and space, as well as the midfielders, to do some damage. If a forward looks ineffectual and we've failed to score, there's a problem. If they look ineffectual and we've stuck 3 past the opposition, it's well worth having a deeper look into the effect they have on the opposition's defensive structure. It's a lot like the flak the defence copped last season, when the bigger issues were with our style of play, and how much space we gave defenders to run at our defence. The key stats though. At the moment we sit equal 4th in the table on points, equal 4th in the table on goals scored (Fulham are top with 26) and 3rd on the table on goals conceded. We actually sit above the league leaders in terms of goals scored and goals conceded. We're third on goal difference as well, with only Middlesbrough and Hull above us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector was the best Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Great win and we are on a fantastic run, but we need to be more clinical with our finishing, we could have scored 6 today. I some games we will have to make sure we put away more of the chances we create. ie against the teams around us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I'm guessing there is no debate over the back 4 if we're talking Russell being the weakest link? Funny how quickly things can change in football, this time last year a topic on the defence would have stretched over 20 pages of Keogh is useless or later on Christie. Will we take lessons from this? A player having a bad run of games doesn't make them useless, rubbish, worst ever player to wear a Derby shirt, they are simply out of form. I will also say this in an attempt to leave my Johnny alone and back on the defence, Warnock is not rubbish, useless or the worst player to wear a Derby shirt as well. It takes time to build on the pitch relationships, an understanding how each other works. Warnock has played just 4 games more than Butterfield who is just starting to settle in, Warnock hasn't had a run of games in the team and a different centre back beside him this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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