Mostyn6 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Not really I think both have made stupid decisions along with the players as well. What I am getting at is the fact that we have 14 games left and I think the fans should keep going until the last game sticking together and not getting on the backs of Nigel, GSE or the Players. I just think your here to argue and wind people up and if that's what you want to do that is up to you but that is not supporting the team... Do you work for marketing at DCFC? All this propaganda is tiresome. I show my support and wouldnt allow a fan of another club to criticise things at DCFC, but that doesn't mean I'm going to blindly support the team and accept everything that goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Have results actually improved with salmon in the team to before? I'm just not impressed by salmon, he tries but isn't a threat, theo can be annoying but so is salmon and at least theo is a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Conor Sammon has more assists than Will Hughes and Jeff Hendrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Connor Sammon was put into a pen with a cow and given a banjo. The cow escaped un harmed. But Sammon had took a beating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'll say it again, Theo had 9 goals by around the start of december and was then dropped. That's half-way through the season. Regardless of his technical ability or appearance, he scores goals. I find it staggering that he has not been played more often, he finds himself time and time again in the right place to score. If Kevin Phillips does it, it is called a poachers instinct and great striking awareness. If Theo does it it must've been a lucky break or a fluke run into that spot that gets him the goal. We've seen enough scrappy goals from him to know he's an incredibly clumsy yet effective force in the opposition box, and against opponents such as Blackpool at home (who no doubt had a poor game that day) he looked like he'd come on leaps and bounds, he's improving, even if his form is still sporadic. To sell him, atleast in my opinion, would be incredibly foolish (not that this is being suggested by the club, that's just my opinion on it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Conor Sammon has more assists than Will Hughes and Jeff Hendrick. There was me thinking salmon was a centre forward not a centre mid. You would hope so as he spends all his time as the player furthest forward and bit dropping deep to get the ball of the centre halfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'll say it again, Theo had 9 goals by around the start of december and was then dropped. That's half-way through the season. Regardless of his technical ability or appearance, he scores goals. I find it staggering that he has not been played more often, he finds himself time and time again in the right place to score. If Kevin Phillips does it, it is called a poachers instinct and great striking awareness. If Theo does it it must've been a lucky break or a fluke run into that spot that gets him the goal. We've seen enough scrappy goals from him to know he's an incredibly clumsy yet effective force in the opposition box, and against opponents such as Blackpool at home (who no doubt had a poor game that day) he looked like he'd come on leaps and bounds, he's improving, even if his form is still sporadic. To sell him, atleast in my opinion, would be incredibly foolish (not that this is being suggested by the club, that's just my opinion on it). Ward is a selfish player as well though. 2 strikers looking out for only themselves, neither like being too far away from goal.. as I said I would try it for a couple of games, just to show the effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Ward is a selfish player as well though. 2 strikers looking out for only themselves, neither like being too far away from goal.. as I said I would try it for a couple of games, just to show the effects. I would play Ward out-wide and make him cut in, perhaps give him license to switch wings when needed. I would rather have Theo, Sammon and Ward all together on the pitch, in current circumstances, though it leaves little in the way of striking back-ups. If industry is what Sammon does then fair enough, Kuqi was far better at it, though perhaps Kuqi at full tilt is what Clough might be hoping Sammon will become. Ward to switch wings, roam a little, ask Sammon to simply be the workhorse. We have a flat enough midfield as it is, we would be sacrificing little in such a scenario. Coutts-Bryson/Hughes-Hendrick-Ward doesn't sound too bad, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I would actually like ward and Jacobs on the wings and two up top, the more people on the pitch who can create and get a goal the better for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I would actually like ward and Jacobs on the wings and two up top, the more people on the pitch who can create and get a goal the better for me. i agree - i think ward's best position is out wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Ward when played upfront is scoring nearly a goal a game though... I'd definitely keep him up there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Ward when played upfront is scoring nearly a goal a game though... I'd definitely keep him up there! Yet theo with a good goal scoring record shouldn't play? Don't you want as many people who can get you a goal on the pitch as possible? It seems to work for Man U. I know we don't have the same level as player before its pointed out. Also the top teams in this division seem to have 3 or 4 people who can make or get a goal out of nothing, we normally have one or 2 max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yet theo with a good goal scoring record shouldn't play? Don't you want as many people who can get you a goal on the pitch as possible? It seems to work for Man U. I know we don't have the same level as player before its pointed out. Also the top teams in this division seem to have 3 or 4 people who can make or get a goal out of nothing, we normally have one or 2 max I think there's a difference between RVP and Hernandez and Theo and Wardy. If we had 3 players who could get a goal out of nothing, they'd be on the pitch, but we don't. Theo can't get a goal out of nothing, he can barely get a goal out of something. The people who want Theo picked over Sammon would be back on this thread moaning about Theo's technical ineptitude by next week. Theo is 10x more frustrating than Sammon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Ward when played upfront is scoring nearly a goal a game though... I'd definitely keep him up there! true - but as emj says above - we increase our goal threat with our top two scorers on the pitch imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfc93 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I would rather have theo than sammon, theo was doing ok upfront, he used to have a bad touch but over the months it has got better and he works hard and can score crucial goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think there's a difference between RVP and Hernandez and Theo and Wardy. If we had 3 players who could get a goal out of nothing, they'd be on the pitch, but we don't. Theo can't get a goal out of nothing, he can barely get a goal out of something. The people who want Theo picked over Sammon would be back on this thread moaning about Theo's technical ineptitude by next week. Theo is 10x more frustrating than Sammon. Well I'm glad you read the bit where I said we don't have the same quality of player so don't point it out. There was me thinking theo last night nearly nicked us a winner with a great header from a corner which bogdan made a great stop. We all know he is frustrating but he does score goals, that's what's wins you games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfc93 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 why are derby affraid of shooting outside the 18 yard box, you see teams in the bottom half of the table and top half , having a go at teams and shooting on sight, derby hardly ever do that. We try to play through the opposition defence and then the strikers get to point in the box where they can't get shot off because the keep is barring down on them. Very fustrating to watch !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I might be wrong, as I said I wouldn't be against playing Theo and Ward upfront.. IN MY OPINION which is the key bit, would significantly weaken us as a side, but I could be wrong - you don't know until you try I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 why are derby affraid of shooting outside the 18 yard box, you see teams in the bottom half of the table and top half , having a go at teams and shooting on sight, derby hardly ever do that. We try to play through the opposition defence and then the strikers get to point in the box where they can't get shot off because the keep is barring down on them. Very fustrating to watch !! it's something that drives me bonkers too. to be fair - i thought bolton did well at charging down quite a few shots on tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfc93 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 it's something that drives me bonkers too. to be fair - i thought bolton did well at charging down quite a few shots on tuesday. yh your right and its like we are trying to play like barca , trying to walk the ball in the net, but its not gona work in the championship, If you don't shoot you don't score ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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