Ramrob

Sorry if already posted, this is tonight's BBC report. Okay, nothing new, but this is the national news - great to raise and maintain public awareness.
 

The sun came up.
We're all 1 day closer to death.
It's dark again now.
 

Are they bringing their flag, that’ll be a big plus 

Thanks for not mentioning it. ? 
I'm sure most of us can't even remember this incident, and I think it's pathetic of you to raise it as some kind of equivalence with QPR overspending by over £40M, but we can remember O'Neill's professional foul that stopped a potential one-on-one and epitomised a cynical display by a club which, at the time, was itself the epitome of arrogance and entitlement. I also have to say that your supporters behaved without a scrap of humility that day, and for a long time afterwards. 
No-one would argue that QPR haven't been on a long, hard journey since, and appear to be doing it the right way now. But, after some reasonable contributions, you're falling into the same mindset that I see in most QPR fans on Social Media : that you are the only victims of your behaviour.
You were lucky you got promoted, you were lucky that PDs weren't a punishment then, you were lucky Mel Morris decided not to sue you for compensation, and you were even more lucky that it wasn't Middlesbrough you beat in that final. 

Exactly this.
The only way to get people on side is to say we’ve been punished and it’s been accepted. 
We need to highlight the extent of our punishment:
- fined 
- huge points deductions 
- multi window transfer embargo’s
- forced to sell off/release key players
- takeover deals being obstructed 
Then ask, when have we been punished enough, and can we be left to get on with saving our club without interference?
That’s the bottom line now!

I take my hat off to @Curtainsfor going on TalkSport and fighting our corner, but just a thought. Nobody in the football world is going to have even a smidge of sympathy for our points deductions, either for going into administration or P&S breaches. They aren’t going to care too much regarding the amortisation technicalities either. They will consider we (Morris) was trying to gain some advantage, and fwiw I think he was too.
We should begrudgingly accept that is where we are. It isn’t going to change. For those getting air time, or writing to MPs or newspapers, or tweeting, the message we should be giving is that we accept our penalties, but those penalties awarded by the EFL should be the full and final penalty.
1) Other football clubs shouldn’t be allowed to pile on - it hasn’t happened in the past with QPR, Leeds, Leicester, etc.
2) We didn’t go after QPR when there was a more evident case of similar wrong doing.
3) The current spat is a personal battle between Gibson and Morris.
4) What justification is there for Boro & Wycombe to be considered football creditors, when to date they are only unsubstantiated claims that the EFL know little about.
5) The Administrators should be able to proceed in accordance with the Law of the Land, not be beholden to ill-written, and out of date, EFL rules and regulations.
6) If this is happening to Derby now, it could be happening to your club next.
These are more important, more powerful points to be making. They are more likely to have a great affect on how we move forward.

I'd say the arguments against (to convince outside people) are even simpler:
Wycombe: we complied with every timescale we were given, bar one minor extension which made no difference.  Wycombe's argument is literally that we should have complied with our punishment before we were even found guilty of *anything*, which is clearly nonsense.
'Boro: They are trying to re-run EFL disciplinary cases because they didn't like the outcome. The cases have been run. The punishments have been handed out.  'Boro wanted to join in the appeal to claim they were specifically harmed, and were denied by the panel. The opportunity to hand out compensation was within the power of the panel and they chose not to.

I'm sure there's loads, but first off the top of my head: Darryl Powell.

Immediate thoughts, admittedly after only seeing the second half due to other commitments.
Forest deserved the win we were poor. Referee didn’t half help them though. 
Got to question Buchanan starting after so long. Guess he wanted more pace against Johnson (who was excellent) but still got skinned everytime. And gave the ball away so many times. As did the rest of the team really, we gave it away soooo much.
Morrison ?‍♂️ Touch and pass deserted him when he came on. Can see why it was a red but bit harsh. All came from another poor touch though.
Ball was in play for around a minute of the 6 minutes of injury time. All teams time waste but Forest really took the P and the ref let them get away with it. 
And not beaten them for 5 years ?
On to the next game, plenty of points to play for.
 
COYR

Immediate thoughts, admittedly after only seeing the second half due to other commitments.
Forest deserved the win we were poor. Referee didn’t half help them though. 
Got to question Buchanan starting after so long. Guess he wanted more pace against Johnson (who was excellent) but still got skinned everytime. And gave the ball away so many times. As did the rest of the team really, we gave it away soooo much.
Morrison ?‍♂️ Touch and pass deserted him when he came on. Can see why it was a red but bit harsh. All came from another poor touch though.
Ball was in play for around a minute of the 6 minutes of injury time. All teams time waste but Forest really took the P and the ref let them get away with it. 
And not beaten them for 5 years ?
On to the next game, plenty of points to play for.
 
COYR

Whilst it was a disappointing afternoon there's some positives to take from that I think. 
First half hour you couldn't tell which team was in admin and had been under transfer embargoes for most of the last four windows. Most of the youngsters had bright moments, for Thompson's physical mismatch vs every player on the pitch I thought he covered really well for Buchanan and stopped them getting behind a few times. Knight, Bird and Festy didn't have their best games but showed they are able to mix it at this level. I've never been Lawrence's biggest fan but thought his overall performance was pretty good, sitter miss aside. We'll let him off after last weeks two bangers. 
We're asking a lot for that team to compete week in week out so whilst it's disappointing to end our unbeaten run I think we can appreciate how good they've been recently, just one game too far. Hopefully we can keep the squad together, get Bielik back in a few weeks and keep picking up points. 
Don't feel as distraught as I normally do when we lose these games, would have hurt more to lose to Cardiff or Reading today. We go again next week. 

Was an excellent block and the rebound was just ahead of Byrne at the post.
I don't think we were at our best but we weren't as bad as all that. The ref was all for giving them push and shoves but not us, particularly up front. But they weren't that good and they can choose from god knows how many front players. Think we didn't quite have the experience and nouce at times. But not disheartened by the display.

I wouldn't get too down about this. We were just a bit off it today, it was bound to happen at some point. We've just come off a streak of 5 games unbeaten, 4 of them wins. It's just a shame it had to end against them lot. 
Even though it was a poor game, the key moments went against us. Each team had two chances, forest took theirs and we didn't. That's it. More or less every decision went their way and the referee allowed them to run the clock down at the end which was a complete disgrace.

Score was about right, poor refereeing yet again but yet again we weren’t so much beaten, we lost that game. 
 
 Cooper made a great change of formation after about 20 minutes, and we didn’t respond until well into the second half. And the kingpin playmaker gave the ball away in dangerous positions 3 times, and didn’t do much else apart from getting sent off. His red card was arguably a bit harsh, and still justifiable. And also it was a stupid challenge given that the ref gave Forest everything for nothing and us hardly anything at all.
Samba only got a yellow for lashing out at Lawrence, who got a yellow for being there. It was arguably a red for Samba, who should have had a second yellow for getting involved in the fracas at the end.
We should have had Sibley on instead of Morrison, who will only be accused of not changing the game when he had a whole 10 minutes to do it in.
In the end we got what we should have out of the match, and it is our own responsibility for it. We couldn’t change it up enough when we needed to.
So we go again!

A game too far, and with the news lane yesterday and off field distraction too far. In a nutshell we looked mentally shattered and we played in the middle of the pitch rather than using Ebosele against Lowe which we all know was their weak spot. 
Bird and Thompson were poor overall, but it’s not a game to suit them. The impact of loosing Shinnie last weekend probably reared it’s head in todays game as we couldn’t battle and get the ball out wide into those positions we needed.
It ain’t a red, how Morrison played when he came on played into their hands so I’m not defending him from that point of view, but yeah its just a strong challenge to make sure he got there first. He’s not endangering their player.Ref needed a calm head, but it was long gone those last few minutes. Once he booked Lawrence he was done for. We never get anything in these games unfortunately. 
They aren’t a bad side, but they ain’t a good one either. Better sides than us will see a weak defence and quite a few players who are capable of loosing their heads. Spence is some player though, dominated front and back.  Probably the MOTM overall. They showed a lack of any class at the end and it showed them up a bit. Uncalled for in the context. 
Bigger things for us to worry about now 

We might not have beaten Forest today but we did beat Cardiff.
Thanks Agents Martin and Weimann ?? 
Keeps Cardiff well and truly in the mix. 

Immediate thoughts, admittedly after only seeing the second half due to other commitments.
Forest deserved the win we were poor. Referee didn’t half help them though. 
Got to question Buchanan starting after so long. Guess he wanted more pace against Johnson (who was excellent) but still got skinned everytime. And gave the ball away so many times. As did the rest of the team really, we gave it away soooo much.
Morrison ?‍♂️ Touch and pass deserted him when he came on. Can see why it was a red but bit harsh. All came from another poor touch though.
Ball was in play for around a minute of the 6 minutes of injury time. All teams time waste but Forest really took the P and the ref let them get away with it. 
And not beaten them for 5 years ?
On to the next game, plenty of points to play for.
 
COYR

FTFY 

What's with all these insults about Steve Cooper's appearance? 
He can't help how he looks and he's a good manager. Outthought our management team today.

And please remember the 6th minute there's applause for a wee boy who died.

And no damage to the City Ground, @TomBustler1884 raised this in the Boro tickets thread, but worth mentioning again.
The last thing we need is a bill to cover damages inside their stadium as you took your frustrations out on the toilets and pink seats.
We don't need any negative press to come from this game, none whatsoever, go do us proud over there and come back with the 3 points. 

It’s been an emotional week and the banter will be heavy tomorrow. For all those going just keep safe and keep the emotions for inside the ground.