kevinhectoring

I think if Mel has the means to do it he will .
The problem is none of us know what Mel can financially afford .
I know that sounds ridiculous but he’s a man that probably finds defeat hard to take because of his previous business ventures.
I appeal to you Mel from the bottom of my heart  please save our club if you possibly can .
Love Dave 
 

I think Q used this last bidding round to get everyone on the same page. So I’d think the most likely reason for more delay is as reported - there’s not a bid that clears the bar.
Also quite possible that one or more bidders said their bid was conditional on getting the stadium and no points deduction. That’s helpful in a way : if MM is intent on avoiding liquidation, it forces him to agree some sort of a deal 
still hopeful he will help Q get a deal over the line 

I think Q used this last bidding round to get everyone on the same page. So I’d think the most likely reason for more delay is as reported - there’s not a bid that clears the bar.
Also quite possible that one or more bidders said their bid was conditional on getting the stadium and no points deduction. That’s helpful in a way : if MM is intent on avoiding liquidation, it forces him to agree some sort of a deal 
still hopeful he will help Q get a deal over the line 

I think Q used this last bidding round to get everyone on the same page. So I’d think the most likely reason for more delay is as reported - there’s not a bid that clears the bar.
Also quite possible that one or more bidders said their bid was conditional on getting the stadium and no points deduction. That’s helpful in a way : if MM is intent on avoiding liquidation, it forces him to agree some sort of a deal 
still hopeful he will help Q get a deal over the line 

I’d think the buyers place quite a lot of value on a fan base of 20,000 per week 

Certainly agree

I think Q used this last bidding round to get everyone on the same page. So I’d think the most likely reason for more delay is as reported - there’s not a bid that clears the bar.
Also quite possible that one or more bidders said their bid was conditional on getting the stadium and no points deduction. That’s helpful in a way : if MM is intent on avoiding liquidation, it forces him to agree some sort of a deal 
still hopeful he will help Q get a deal over the line 

So why did the administrators statement of affairs from mid November still show the club owing £20m to MSD, with a fixed charge?

I’d think the buyers place quite a lot of value on a fan base of 20,000 per week 

I’d think the buyers place quite a lot of value on a fan base of 20,000 per week 

Translated:
"We've spoken to bitter, loudmouthed failed bidder Chris Kirchner, who had this to say.... "

Football creditors have to be paid, that's the absolute minimum to remain in the league. 
Hmrc need to be paid enough to accept. 

You are focusing on the administrators concentrating on putting the club First rather than their statutory obligation of putting creditors First. For all we/you know the administrators may have spoken to bidders of what is required to "clear the bar" perhaps the bidders are unwilling to do that.Don't keep blaming the administrators for the mess they are working through.
The comedy of errors is the state the club was left in when they walked through the door.

they wrote a paper on all of this before taking office - there were no complexities they were unaware of.
Fans' expectation (including yours perhaps) was that they would get the PB announced in Dec or latest Jan. You now call that unrealistic but it was Q's timetable. It's 28 March today.
Have to say, when they announced their timetable in Sept, I thought there was plenty of room for slippage
I think they are under resourced - they have handled the various workstreams (EFL, creditors, Gibbo, exit, bid process) in too sequential a way. This led to the EFL-football creditors-Gibbo debacle arising far too late in the day, wrecking our transfer window and exposing the entire process to added risk.  The last month fannying around with the bidders speaks for itself.
This is not hindsight. Posters on here were warning months ago that bidders would not take the Gibbo risk. And people were saying months before it happened that MM's involvement was needed to solve the Gibbo issue, and there were press articles along the same lines. Q needed to be speaking to the EFL about the FC issue in advance of the train wreck; in the same way they needed to be speaking to bidders in advance of receiving bids that failed to clear the bar last month.
I'm not unrealistic. They are human, things will go wrong. But it's verging on a comedy of errors. 

they wrote a paper on all of this before taking office - there were no complexities they were unaware of.
Fans' expectation (including yours perhaps) was that they would get the PB announced in Dec or latest Jan. You now call that unrealistic but it was Q's timetable. It's 28 March today.
Have to say, when they announced their timetable in Sept, I thought there was plenty of room for slippage
I think they are under resourced - they have handled the various workstreams (EFL, creditors, Gibbo, exit, bid process) in too sequential a way. This led to the EFL-football creditors-Gibbo debacle arising far too late in the day, wrecking our transfer window and exposing the entire process to added risk.  The last month fannying around with the bidders speaks for itself.
This is not hindsight. Posters on here were warning months ago that bidders would not take the Gibbo risk. And people were saying months before it happened that MM's involvement was needed to solve the Gibbo issue, and there were press articles along the same lines. Q needed to be speaking to the EFL about the FC issue in advance of the train wreck; in the same way they needed to be speaking to bidders in advance of receiving bids that failed to clear the bar last month.
I'm not unrealistic. They are human, things will go wrong. But it's verging on a comedy of errors. 

they wrote a paper on all of this before taking office - there were no complexities they were unaware of.
Fans' expectation (including yours perhaps) was that they would get the PB announced in Dec or latest Jan. You now call that unrealistic but it was Q's timetable. It's 28 March today.
Have to say, when they announced their timetable in Sept, I thought there was plenty of room for slippage
I think they are under resourced - they have handled the various workstreams (EFL, creditors, Gibbo, exit, bid process) in too sequential a way. This led to the EFL-football creditors-Gibbo debacle arising far too late in the day, wrecking our transfer window and exposing the entire process to added risk.  The last month fannying around with the bidders speaks for itself.
This is not hindsight. Posters on here were warning months ago that bidders would not take the Gibbo risk. And people were saying months before it happened that MM's involvement was needed to solve the Gibbo issue, and there were press articles along the same lines. Q needed to be speaking to the EFL about the FC issue in advance of the train wreck; in the same way they needed to be speaking to bidders in advance of receiving bids that failed to clear the bar last month.
I'm not unrealistic. They are human, things will go wrong. But it's verging on a comedy of errors. 

Absolutely, many do.
I read your last post as suggesting solicitors give advice on property values, hence my response to it 

Absolutely, many do.
I read your last post as suggesting solicitors give advice on property values, hence my response to it 

Funny you mention that -  Q does not seem to understand what is their role. They keep mumbling about securing the bidder that will provide the best long term future for the club. Not their job. 

I can pretty much guarantee that your Mel hypothesis is wrong? I'm not ITK or an insolvency expert, but I still know that it's wrong.
Why? Because it makes perfect sense, and this is Derby County, where nothing ever actually makes sense. ?

It’s Q’s job to get us out of admin.  It’s their job to read the market, to understand if their request for viable bids is going to fail (as it did a month ago). And if it IS going to fail, it’s their job to find a fix. A fix has now been found it seems, but once again, too late.
Once again. 
 

There’s been speculation on here that Morris will pay off MSD in order to avoid -15. And in return he will get some sort of sleeping investment in the club going forward.
 
If that’s what Q have been negotiating with him over the last 3 weeks, then he will be involved in every bid. And we should be pleased about that if it avoids -15 (or worse)