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Unfortunately not - FOI only applies to public bodies and those that are publicly funded (like universities, BBC etc)
(Edit: you could however ask relevant government department for correspondence between them and the EFL (or any club) on a specific issue or over a given period of time. Or ask ministers/government for any reports or correspondence about Derby County in the last x months or years. Not sure it would turn up anything useful, and might well be heavily redacted!)

Wonder if he still thinks administration is "very probably" in the best interests of the club?
This was from the same interview where he said: "From the moment I announced I was prepared to effectively let the club go for no return to me, that left no room for negotiation."
IF YOU ARE PREPARED TO LET IT GO FOR NOTHING WHAT ROOM FOR NEGOTIATION DO YOU NEED.

How much did Mel put in??, we owe an awful lot of money and don’t own our assets… makes you wonder. IMO he needs to be held fully accountable, there is no way he should be able to wash his hands of us after all this. 

Gibson clearly has an obsession/fixation with Mel Morris, perhaps he needs to talk his problems through with someone who can help him see past his obsession.
Gibsons statement/rant mostly deals with issues  that are nothing to do with his claim for compensation and asks for information that is already in the public domain.
A person reading the Gibson statement may come to the conclusion that Gibsons real issue is with Mel Morris and Gibson is unable to separate, in his mind, Mel Morris from Derby County.

Lads, lads, lets not forget that the stadium is worth £ 80 million because an esteemed valuer said so.  So buy it back for £ 20m from Mel, sell it for $ 80m to an independent third party, bung Boro and Wycombe £ 10 million and use the remaining £ 50m to clear the debt and recapitalise.

Anyone else getting absolutely fed up to the back teeth with this? Sums up why so many people have fell out of love with football. 

Fair and I couldn't argue against that, however selfish it may be.
I just hope, really hope it doesn't come down to that.
Time for all parties to get together now, they have entertained MP's, fan groups, but the most important meeting has yet to happen. 
This could all be potentially over in a few hours over a bottle of wine.

Dunno, though. £20million is a lot, and I suspect more than enough to pay off Middlesbrough and Wycombe (I'm not saying I'd be happy doing that, but a buyer might.)
The best solution here is that the EFL rules that Middlesbrough and Wycombe aren't football creditors, since they weren't owed money at the point we went into adminstration, our administrators haven't accepted their claims, and football clubs should basically follow the same rules of adminstration as any other company. They won't, it seems, because they would get sued: so instead they create a terrible precedent and hide behind the language of "balancing interests".
But yeah, Mel comes out of this badly if he basically put the club into administration but hived off the only real asset to cover his personal liabilities. I could see why the real creditors would be annoyed by that, let alone Gibson.

Dunno, though. £20million is a lot, and I suspect more than enough to pay off Middlesbrough and Wycombe (I'm not saying I'd be happy doing that, but a buyer might.)
The best solution here is that the EFL rules that Middlesbrough and Wycombe aren't football creditors, since they weren't owed money at the point we went into adminstration, our administrators haven't accepted their claims, and football clubs should basically follow the same rules of adminstration as any other company. They won't, it seems, because they would get sued: so instead they create a terrible precedent and hide behind the language of "balancing interests".
But yeah, Mel comes out of this badly if he basically put the club into administration but hived off the only real asset to cover his personal liabilities. I could see why the real creditors would be annoyed by that, let alone Gibson.

It's possible both these are true:
a) If Morris relinquished the stadium and took the hit over the loan personally, a buyer would live with a compromised settlement with Middlesbrough and Wycombe
b) If Middlesbrough and Wycombe dropped their claims, a buyer would live with having to pay Morris £20million for the stadium to pay off his loan
...and that's dangerous, because it becomes a game of chicken and the big losers if no one backs down are us, the fans.
It's also just possible Morris can't easily settle the loan. Who knows how much money he really has?

Pure speculation but if Morris kept the stadium in order to sell to the new owners on the condition he gets enough to cover debts to MSD which he personally guaranteed, then I can see Gibson's problem.
That said, that doesn't make it okay to take it out on the club and essentially force DCFC to the point of liquidation simply to make sure Morris ends up having to pay something to someone. 
If this is now a personal war between two mega-rich people, that's very dangerous for us. 

Pure speculation but if Morris kept the stadium in order to sell to the new owners on the condition he gets enough to cover debts to MSD which he personally guaranteed, then I can see Gibson's problem.
That said, that doesn't make it okay to take it out on the club and essentially force DCFC to the point of liquidation simply to make sure Morris ends up having to pay something to someone. 
If this is now a personal war between two mega-rich people, that's very dangerous for us. 

Pure speculation but if Morris kept the stadium in order to sell to the new owners on the condition he gets enough to cover debts to MSD which he personally guaranteed, then I can see Gibson's problem.
That said, that doesn't make it okay to take it out on the club and essentially force DCFC to the point of liquidation simply to make sure Morris ends up having to pay something to someone. 
If this is now a personal war between two mega-rich people, that's very dangerous for us. 

Ok, another spirit has appeared. Someone perhaps called Mel or Mal? Maybe Maladministration? Anyone?

The EFL won't want to say theses two low life clubs are not football creditors because then Boro will want to take legal action against the EFL saying they were not governing properly in the past and if they win then the bods at the EFL will lose any respect they ever had while risking their nice big earner jobs and the EFL would more than likely get removed which may happen anyway after this.
So for Parry if Derby get liquidated that problem goes away. Gibson then wins his vendetta against Morris so is also happy. If that happened I would not like to be in Parrys, Gibsons, Birch and the Wycombe chairmans shoes.
The sports minister needs to put pressure on the EFL and the rest of the world needs to call out Midlesbrough and Wycombe.

Wonder if he still thinks administration is "very probably" in the best interests of the club?
This was from the same interview where he said: "From the moment I announced I was prepared to effectively let the club go for no return to me, that left no room for negotiation."
IF YOU ARE PREPARED TO LET IT GO FOR NOTHING WHAT ROOM FOR NEGOTIATION DO YOU NEED.

Except this is a failed football business. The administrator is already going to be squeezing for every penny of "value" to pay off the real creditors. They can't just knock a bit off the asking price to cover potential liabilities since it sounds like they are already getting only a fraction of what the creditors are owed, and the creditors are not going to accept getting nothing just because Middlesbrough reckon they are owed 10s of millions for some supposed harm. 
The potential liability sounds like it could be more than the value of the club, and it wouldn't be determined in the courts. A five per cent risk that you are liable for 150% of annual revenue in a loss-making sector is going to put most people off, unless you are a very rich, very long term or very altruistic investor. (Or you just love a good gamble.)

Except this is a failed football business. The administrator is already going to be squeezing for every penny of "value" to pay off the real creditors. They can't just knock a bit off the asking price to cover potential liabilities since it sounds like they are already getting only a fraction of what the creditors are owed, and the creditors are not going to accept getting nothing just because Middlesbrough reckon they are owed 10s of millions for some supposed harm. 
The potential liability sounds like it could be more than the value of the club, and it wouldn't be determined in the courts. A five per cent risk that you are liable for 150% of annual revenue in a loss-making sector is going to put most people off, unless you are a very rich, very long term or very altruistic investor. (Or you just love a good gamble.)

Or they have absolutely no confidence that an EFL led arbitration would be impartial, justifiably so because history tells us otherwise.

Agree with this. The problem is the rules, which basically make it more likely that administration will end in liquidation if it involves a football club. That's surely the opposite of what we want, give what football clubs mean to communities.
If this was any other type of administration, these "claims" would have been assessed by the administrator, rejected, and that would be that. These clubs were not existing creditors, and undetermined civil claims can't be started or pursued against a company in administration.
It seems what's happened here is that the EFL is saying "no no, in this case we aren't going to do that, these claims absolutely must be heard either before the company is bought or afterwards." That wouldn't be the case with any other type of company, and of course it is going to put off potential buyers. Who wants to buy a broken company, pay off a sizeable proportion of its debts, and still face a potential multi-million pound bill down the line for the alleged wrongdoings of owners who have long since left?
 

This from Carl Jackson to a fan who contacted him directly this morning.
I think the administrators need space to sort this out. Demands from the fans for them to come out and talk all the while are surely not helping. Think they are meeting the fans groups tomorrow. 

Yep and the politicians, if they want to apply real pressure, need to make it clear what kind of pragmatism they expect - which basically means Boro dropping the claims or (more likely) everyone accepting that they fall due to administration rules, regardless of their "merits", because the priority is paying off actual creditors and saving the company. They need to make it clear to the EFL and Boro that they don't consider it "pragmatism" or "compromise" if Gibson says "Okay instead of demanding a gillizion for that time Mel made me sad, I'll accept half a gazillion."

The tough issue here is that despite all the talk of "compromise" and "pragmatism" these are going to mean quite different things to the different parties.
Boro seem to think it means: "Pay us £10m (or whatever) for our claim and we will go away."
For us (to Boro) it means: "Withdraw your claim, it relies on unproven and unprovable 'losses' and alleged wrongdoing by owners who are no longer involved in the club, and for which that club has already been punished."
And for us (to the EFL) it means: "Let us treat this claim exactly as it would be treated if this was a non-footballing administration - ie, ignore it completely since it isn't an existing debt ("football" or otherwise), and administration rules state compensation claims can't be started or pursued against a company in administration."
For the EFL it seems to mean: "Whatever doesn't upset Steve Gibson or get us sued."
The whole thing is a mess but simple calls for compromise and pragmatism, even if aimed at the EFL and Boro, aren't specific enough. That said the political and media pressure is growing and while Gibson might not care about that, the EFL probably will. This was a useful debate, I think, and the government stand-in seemed to "get it" by the end, if not at the start. It all helps. 
(The Bury thing is a real warning: if the EFL think overruling Boro will get them sued, or otherwise hurt them, they are the type of organisation who will just sit on their hands and "not-my-fault-guv"-it up to and beyond the point we get liquidated. That worries me more than anything.) 
 
 

The problem with that is that if the EFL, Wycombe, Boro and the administrators are all in a room together, there’s not actually anyone in that room that gives a poo about the fans and the football club.
the pragmatic solution all these mps (bar the one from boro) are hunting at is that either Boro and Wycombe show some sort of compassion and drop their cases, or the EFL at least rule that they are not footballing debts and can be handled separately. But unless Quantuma have some massive card uk their sleeve, I can’t see that conclusion being reached.
it needs a Margaret Beckett, if the sports minister, or the lady doing the fan lead review, to be sat in that room, bringing them all in line and saying ‘now, now, be sensible you bunch of vindictive idiots.’

The tough issue here is that despite all the talk of "compromise" and "pragmatism" these are going to mean quite different things to the different parties.
Boro seem to think it means: "Pay us £10m (or whatever) for our claim and we will go away."
For us (to Boro) it means: "Withdraw your claim, it relies on unproven and unprovable 'losses' and alleged wrongdoing by owners who are no longer involved in the club, and for which that club has already been punished."
And for us (to the EFL) it means: "Let us treat this claim exactly as it would be treated if this was a non-footballing administration - ie, ignore it completely since it isn't an existing debt ("football" or otherwise), and administration rules state compensation claims can't be started or pursued against a company in administration."
For the EFL it seems to mean: "Whatever doesn't upset Steve Gibson or get us sued."
The whole thing is a mess but simple calls for compromise and pragmatism, even if aimed at the EFL and Boro, aren't specific enough. That said the political and media pressure is growing and while Gibson might not care about that, the EFL probably will. This was a useful debate, I think, and the government stand-in seemed to "get it" by the end, if not at the start. It all helps. 
(The Bury thing is a real warning: if the EFL think overruling Boro will get them sued, or otherwise hurt them, they are the type of organisation who will just sit on their hands and "not-my-fault-guv"-it up to and beyond the point we get liquidated. That worries me more than anything.)