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But obviously wont be meaningless if that translates into hospitalizations and deaths a couple of weeks down the road (I dont see why it will though).
With 75% of adults having had 1 jab and over 50% having had 2, we really are at the stage of managing their own risk.
Pretty much all of the vulnerable people have been vaccinated, if they dont feel safe now I am not sure then they ever will.

Im an advocate of opening up right away.
But...its silly comparing positive case increases with hospitalization/death rate increases on the same day, as there is a lag in the data.
If hospitalizations/deaths are still at the same rates in 2 weeks there can be no excuse for delaying removing all restrictions.

We really aren't. 
The large large majority do their best to apply common sense, even when the guidance is hard to follow.
Don't be fooled by the knob heads on Good Morning Britain, and the likes, trying to convince you that the guidance is just too hard to understand.
 

Im an advocate of opening up right away.
But...its silly comparing positive case increases with hospitalization/death rate increases on the same day, as there is a lag in the data.
If hospitalizations/deaths are still at the same rates in 2 weeks there can be no excuse for delaying removing all restrictions.

Like most things doesnt this just require a bit of goodwill and common sense from the general public?
Why is everyone so keen all of a sudden to live in a nanny state where the Government control your every move and unless it is spelt out in instructions for 3 year olds you have to pretend not to understand?
Not sure why the Councillor is making comments about the transmissibility of the virus, why not just stick to the facts?

The media and scientists. 
Every time anything happens they are scratching around for the latest 'expert scientist' who will give them their doom mongering view.
Its interesting that other scientists, with the same qualifications but the opposite view would be referred to as 'fringe scientists' rather than experts.
The media want the lockdown re-opening putting back purely so they can rip into the Government with 'but you promised we would scrap all measures on June 21st' type questions. 
Absolute vermin. 

Going off topic.

They sound more credible? Are you sure you don't mean it doesn't just sound more like you want to hear?
Not sure he even said much that the general public didn't already know did he?
The stories would have been much more credible had they been said at the time.
I think to many they just look like the barbs of a bitter man.

The media and scientists. 
Every time anything happens they are scratching around for the latest 'expert scientist' who will give them their doom mongering view.
Its interesting that other scientists, with the same qualifications but the opposite view would be referred to as 'fringe scientists' rather than experts.
The media want the lockdown re-opening putting back purely so they can rip into the Government with 'but you promised we would scrap all measures on June 21st' type questions. 
Absolute vermin. 

The media and scientists. 
Every time anything happens they are scratching around for the latest 'expert scientist' who will give them their doom mongering view.
Its interesting that other scientists, with the same qualifications but the opposite view would be referred to as 'fringe scientists' rather than experts.
The media want the lockdown re-opening putting back purely so they can rip into the Government with 'but you promised we would scrap all measures on June 21st' type questions. 
Absolute vermin. 

You mean the 20,000 variant of this virus.
And who knows - they’re not worried about things. That’s my point - we are reporting and scaring everyone anytime something comes up the government/press can half link to use the phrase ‘mutant’.
Who knows what they have in the States - I’d be shocked if the Indian variant wasn’t there - just they’re not shouting from the roof tops every day about it.
Youve sadly proved my point with one line.

Is this the same Cummings that we were told was a bare faced liar 12 months ago? Amazing how eager some are to hang on his every word now!
Its also noticeable that alot of gone quiet on the comparisons with other countries now that the other countries have had their third wave of infections.
Remember when Germany were the gold standard in track and trace for Europe?
Pretty much all they are left with now are 2 countries out in the middle of nowhere and the middle eastern countries who have had experience of pandemics and are used to walking round wearing masks.

In what way?
He put a few decent performances in late on in the season in games that we lost. 
 
 

Nail on head.
If people are worried about the Indian variant then let them stay locked up in their house (if that is what they want).
I'm vaccinated now and happy to take my chances.
The people that are vulnerable to this disease, or other variants of it, are vulnerable now until it is completely eradicated, which is not going to happen.
Its quite a harsh thing to say but I am absolutely disgusted with anyone that is advocating ruining the lives of the younger generation anymore.

I won't defend him where I think he has treated people unfairly.
Where you say he has treated legitimate taxpayers unfairly you may recall that a lot who missed out were people taking low salaries and high dividends to avoid paying tax/national insurance in the first place.
As for my own personal situation, I have worked throughout the whole pandemic, working for a company where all but 2 of us were furloughed, so wouldn't say I am a something for nothing merchant. 

I'm not refuting your points. 
All I've done is ask for links to evidence if millions missing out on the furlough scheme. 
Ive agreed with you that anyone unfairly missing out should have been judged on a case by case basis.
I think you're massively over exaggerating the numbers to back up your case and at the same time undermine the job done by Sunak. I dont think I'm right by any stretch if the imagination so am happy to see the evidence that I am wrong. 
In terms of the EOTHO scheme youve posted a scientific study that is not peer reviewed and, when fact checked, appears to hold little weight. I've countered it with what I have seen from 'evidence' within the industry. 

Whilst I wouldn't condone riots, I hope it would spell the end of the Government. The message was clear from about 9 months ago that the lockdowns were to protect the NHS from being overwhelmed and the vaccine was the way out of this.

Whilst I wouldn't condone riots, I hope it would spell the end of the Government. The message was clear from about 9 months ago that the lockdowns were to protect the NHS from being overwhelmed and the vaccine was the way out of this.

Nail on head.
If people are worried about the Indian variant then let them stay locked up in their house (if that is what they want).
I'm vaccinated now and happy to take my chances.
The people that are vulnerable to this disease, or other variants of it, are vulnerable now until it is completely eradicated, which is not going to happen.
Its quite a harsh thing to say but I am absolutely disgusted with anyone that is advocating ruining the lives of the younger generation anymore.

Nail on head.
If people are worried about the Indian variant then let them stay locked up in their house (if that is what they want).
I'm vaccinated now and happy to take my chances.
The people that are vulnerable to this disease, or other variants of it, are vulnerable now until it is completely eradicated, which is not going to happen.
Its quite a harsh thing to say but I am absolutely disgusted with anyone that is advocating ruining the lives of the younger generation anymore.

Is this the same Cummings that we were told was a bare faced liar 12 months ago? Amazing how eager some are to hang on his every word now!
Its also noticeable that alot of gone quiet on the comparisons with other countries now that the other countries have had their third wave of infections.
Remember when Germany were the gold standard in track and trace for Europe?
Pretty much all they are left with now are 2 countries out in the middle of nowhere and the middle eastern countries who have had experience of pandemics and are used to walking round wearing masks.

Is this the same Cummings that we were told was a bare faced liar 12 months ago? Amazing how eager some are to hang on his every word now!
Its also noticeable that alot of gone quiet on the comparisons with other countries now that the other countries have had their third wave of infections.
Remember when Germany were the gold standard in track and trace for Europe?
Pretty much all they are left with now are 2 countries out in the middle of nowhere and the middle eastern countries who have had experience of pandemics and are used to walking round wearing masks.

Im surprised that any of you actually still believe that @ariotofmyownposts are actually Covid related and not just thinly veiled policital posts!
In fact they arent even veiled, 4 out of the last 6 posts have been direct attacks on Boris Johnson.

In what way?
He put a few decent performances in late on in the season in games that we lost. 
 
 

Is this the same Cummings that we were told was a bare faced liar 12 months ago? Amazing how eager some are to hang on his every word now!
Its also noticeable that alot of gone quiet on the comparisons with other countries now that the other countries have had their third wave of infections.
Remember when Germany were the gold standard in track and trace for Europe?
Pretty much all they are left with now are 2 countries out in the middle of nowhere and the middle eastern countries who have had experience of pandemics and are used to walking round wearing masks.