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i bet she feels as silly as the 41-year-old ex-world champion kickboxer who died recently.
46 and certainly doesn't look overweight, although she was unvaccinated. 
California prosecutor who campaigned against vaccine mandates dies of Covid.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/06/kelly-ernby-california-prosecutor-dies-covid

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/paramount-importance-judge-orders-fda-hasten-release-pfizer-vaccine-docs-2022-01-07/
They now have 8 months to release the data.
Pfizer are still moaning about not enough employees ? They might have to dip into some of that $30bn or however much it is they have earned in the past couple of years to hire some more people!

I've answered that.  He gives people actual facts, data from Govt websites. 
At the time we were being bombarded with omicron fear porn.  3000-5000 deaths per day blah, blah, blah...  Using Govts own data he pointed out that less than 7% of deaths were with covid and covid admissions to hospitals were 70% less than this time last year.
Any deliberate misleading and fearmingering has been done by the Govt and media.  The media cos it sells and the Govt cos (and lets be generous) that they want to drive up vaccine uptake.  You can argue whether that is morally acceptable or not but I'd prefer actual data and informed choice.

How do you know they didn't all catch it from unvaccinated people?. I know that's not likely but....
(made up numbers for illustration):
If we accept that the vaccine reduces the risk of infecting others (due to lower viral load; lesser symptoms or whatever - doesn't matter how).......
Even if an unvaccinated person infects 10 people and a vaccinated person still infects 9, then the vaccine has stopped one person from being infected. So, as I said, the vaccine does stop people being infected. Just not all of them - which nobody has ever claimed, as far as I have seen.

Those above 60 and with co morbidity s ,
take a look at the stats of who are dying from covid in any great numbers,
I also think mass vaccination is very much likely to produce variants

Boris didn't say it 'stops us from vaccinating others*' he just said it 'stops us from infecting others'.  
*insert whatever caveat.
If we just stick to football, in recent days Brentford (100% vaccinated) and Liverpool (99% vaccinated) have called off matches due to covid outbreaks.  The vaccines don't seem to have 'stopped us from infecting others' there.

You'll have to explain why he is 'quoting accurate data but in a deliberately misleading way.'
Why do you think more people are dying at home?
So if accurately quoting data fuels conspiracy theorists, what does deliberately misleading the public fuel?

Over 91% vaccinated here and an explosion of Covid cases, over a 1000 a day some days.  On January 10 jabbing kids from 5-11 years old is set to begin.  Madness.

Like the Government seeing how far they can push the powers that they are taking without need.
Like the media reaction and how they have been allowed to silence anyone with an alternative opinion. 
Like the mandating of vaccines for NHS workers even though the vaccine neither stops you from contracting or spreading the virus.
Like the implementation of discriminatory vaccine passports despite the above.
Like the Government being able to close businesses and destroy livelihoods.
Just a few off the top of my head.

The problem is there are too many morons on both extremes of this situation, people probably do go to extremes re the vaccine dangers ( all medicines have dangers ) problem is the fertile breeding ground for this kind of thinking are things like pushing mass vaccination on catagory s of people that don’t really need it and pushing vaccine passports when we don’t have a vaccine that stops the spread , people at the top pushing mass fear on the population that it’s clear by they’re behaviour they don’t fear themselves and more worryingly the demonisation of groups or individuals that agree with everything and that most certainly includes intelligent qualified people as well as what some class as nut jobs ,
personally I would love to see us develop to a point where we found balance ,, you can believe covid is real and serious but also stand up and say NO this or that reaction / policy towards it is wrong and we are heading somewhere that this doesn’t warrant and it’s not the kind of world I want for future generations, you’ve on got to look at the likes of sturgeon, macron and the Canadian Justin s kind of rhetoric, some stuff I’ve seen from Australian politicians to see the danger in handing such sweeping power to governments ??‍♂️

I’m against vaccine passports, mandatory vaccinations and vaccinating children against parent consent. I believe most people are.
Unfortunately you get nut jobs on both ends of the spectrum.

The problem is there are too many morons on both extremes of this situation, people probably do go to extremes re the vaccine dangers ( all medicines have dangers ) problem is the fertile breeding ground for this kind of thinking are things like pushing mass vaccination on catagory s of people that don’t really need it and pushing vaccine passports when we don’t have a vaccine that stops the spread , people at the top pushing mass fear on the population that it’s clear by they’re behaviour they don’t fear themselves and more worryingly the demonisation of groups or individuals that agree with everything and that most certainly includes intelligent qualified people as well as what some class as nut jobs ,
personally I would love to see us develop to a point where we found balance ,, you can believe covid is real and serious but also stand up and say NO this or that reaction / policy towards it is wrong and we are heading somewhere that this doesn’t warrant and it’s not the kind of world I want for future generations, you’ve on got to look at the likes of sturgeon, macron and the Canadian Justin s kind of rhetoric, some stuff I’ve seen from Australian politicians to see the danger in handing such sweeping power to governments ??‍♂️

The problem is there are too many morons on both extremes of this situation, people probably do go to extremes re the vaccine dangers ( all medicines have dangers ) problem is the fertile breeding ground for this kind of thinking are things like pushing mass vaccination on catagory s of people that don’t really need it and pushing vaccine passports when we don’t have a vaccine that stops the spread , people at the top pushing mass fear on the population that it’s clear by they’re behaviour they don’t fear themselves and more worryingly the demonisation of groups or individuals that agree with everything and that most certainly includes intelligent qualified people as well as what some class as nut jobs ,
personally I would love to see us develop to a point where we found balance ,, you can believe covid is real and serious but also stand up and say NO this or that reaction / policy towards it is wrong and we are heading somewhere that this doesn’t warrant and it’s not the kind of world I want for future generations, you’ve on got to look at the likes of sturgeon, macron and the Canadian Justin s kind of rhetoric, some stuff I’ve seen from Australian politicians to see the danger in handing such sweeping power to governments ??‍♂️

Of course. I'm a father too and there was enough to concern me even before Covid. 

Mate, when the bloke who invented mRNA is banned from social media for talking about mRNA, you’ve got no hope of whisteblowers being allowed to whistleblow at will. 
 
just to add, this video is seen as “dangerous and hateful media”! ?

No , you’ve run off on a mad one yet again , no surprise as it’s the same old tactic , I  never said any of the stuff you’ve posted ??‍♂️,
conveniently you havnt answered the simple stated FACT , doctors and hospitals are INSTRUCTED to record deaths from ANY cause within 28 days of a positive test as a covid death ,
I now personally know 3 people who have had problems within two weeks of vaccine ,one of those serious and there’s not even been the slightest question as to whether vaccine related,
perhaps you find what your instructed to look for and don’t find what your instructed NOT to look for , so no I don’t see some mass conspiracy of individual doctors and nurses , let’s see if we start to see what’s known as whistle blowers appear over time a bit like the phizer testing and reporting stuff published in the BMJ ,
of course you will run off accusing me of saying millions are dying from the vaccine rather than having genuine concerns that vaccine related problems are not being investigated/ recorded as stringently as they should be and certainly not in the same way as covid , remember Long Covid, but hey no matter , it’s what you do and it’s just silly??‍♂️
 

No , you’ve run off on a mad one yet again , no surprise as it’s the same old tactic , I  never said any of the stuff you’ve posted ??‍♂️,
conveniently you havnt answered the simple stated FACT , doctors and hospitals are INSTRUCTED to record deaths from ANY cause within 28 days of a positive test as a covid death ,
I now personally know 3 people who have had problems within two weeks of vaccine ,one of those serious and there’s not even been the slightest question as to whether vaccine related,
perhaps you find what your instructed to look for and don’t find what your instructed NOT to look for , so no I don’t see some mass conspiracy of individual doctors and nurses , let’s see if we start to see what’s known as whistle blowers appear over time a bit like the phizer testing and reporting stuff published in the BMJ ,
of course you will run off accusing me of saying millions are dying from the vaccine rather than having genuine concerns that vaccine related problems are not being investigated/ recorded as stringently as they should be and certainly not in the same way as covid , remember Long Covid, but hey no matter , it’s what you do and it’s just silly??‍♂️
 

No , you’ve run off on a mad one yet again , no surprise as it’s the same old tactic , I  never said any of the stuff you’ve posted ??‍♂️,
conveniently you havnt answered the simple stated FACT , doctors and hospitals are INSTRUCTED to record deaths from ANY cause within 28 days of a positive test as a covid death ,
I now personally know 3 people who have had problems within two weeks of vaccine ,one of those serious and there’s not even been the slightest question as to whether vaccine related,
perhaps you find what your instructed to look for and don’t find what your instructed NOT to look for , so no I don’t see some mass conspiracy of individual doctors and nurses , let’s see if we start to see what’s known as whistle blowers appear over time a bit like the phizer testing and reporting stuff published in the BMJ ,
of course you will run off accusing me of saying millions are dying from the vaccine rather than having genuine concerns that vaccine related problems are not being investigated/ recorded as stringently as they should be and certainly not in the same way as covid , remember Long Covid, but hey no matter , it’s what you do and it’s just silly??‍♂️
 

How many of us at work are asked why things can’t be done quicker, usually by someone who hasn’t got a clue?  And then you’re thinking “it’d be a lot quicker if you left me alone rather than taking up my time with your questions”.  Probably what the admins are thinking now.

Fact based debate hmm.. scratches chin emoji..
It’s more like a Tom and Jerry cartoon on here with people E-Whacking each other with comedy implements.. (I rather like it this way and get my facts from else where).

 

All joking aside , when did it become a thing that we have to agree with EVERYTHING a person says or thinks , whatever happened to being able to disagree on some stuff but agree on other stuff??‍♂️, what kind of world does that create?

I'm double jabbed and had the booster. Also had Covid twice.
Does that make me the most vaccinated person on here?
So who are the unvaccinated?  I'd say people who have only had 2 jabs, and people who have not been vaccinated and not recently had Covid. 
Which means the unvaccinated that have had Covid recently - and we are told by people on this thread it is those primarily causing the spreading - are technically more vaccinated than those with 2 jabs. 
If the booster isn't on the supposed vaccine passports, then the passports are worthless. Completely worthless. If the booster is on the passport, it's still ducking worthless as it doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it. 
I'm also a member of MENSA, so that means I'm right..... 
I'm not, because I don't have grandiose narcissistic traits. Which include a lack of empathy, thinking youre on a higher intelligence level to those around you, becoming angry and aggressive towards those who do not agree with you..... 

All joking aside , when did it become a thing that we have to agree with EVERYTHING a person says or thinks , whatever happened to being able to disagree on some stuff but agree on other stuff??‍♂️, what kind of world does that create?

Yep fair do s there’s a lot of conflict of interest in the official narrative too with a lot of money being made ,jabs for kids , boosters for rich countries whilst little to no jabs for poorer ones ??‍♂️

Aloof  all they do is put a bigger fuse in the circuit wait for it to go bang fault finding done.
Us mechanical engineering guys have no such quick fix.?