PistoldPete

Shinniesta a big miss today. Hopefully Knight will be fit and in form. 
 

You highlight jozwiak signing .. yet we made a large transfer profit in that same summer. And we actually haven’t paid that much for him .. yet.
 
and our losses were not £3m per month at any time , and certainly not just before COVID struck. 
total losses at the height of spending were £43 million over three years …  ie £14 million pa and that was for the three years ending 2018. 
 
that was along time ago. Since then spending has come down a lot from 2017/18 peak.
 
you’re dodgy at accounts I would suggest .. are you Maguire in disguise? 
 
 

Oh good.

Ok so it’s over the top , sorry to anyone offended. 

Please don’t state your opinions as Facts. We are not the first club to go into admin since the pandemic struck and we won’t be the last. 
 
if reckless spending caused us to go into admin they would have gone into admin in 2017/18 or 2018/18. We didn’t.
we went into admin during the worst pandemic for 100 years and we were the club worst affected financially by that. .. because we had the largest crowds prior to COVID and didn’t get the COVID loans that other clubs got.

Oh good.

We missed getting promotion in 2019 by the narrowest of margins. He decided to sell the club as his money was running out but in January 2020 with a sale agreed EFL tried to hit Derby with some trumped up charges. the buyer then pulled out. 
 
and then in March 2020 something else happened , oh I seem to have forgotten what that was It I seem to remember it was on the news but now like you it has slipped my mind completely. 

We missed getting promotion in 2019 by the narrowest of margins. He decided to sell the club as his money was running out but in January 2020 with a sale agreed EFL tried to hit Derby with some trumped up charges. the buyer then pulled out. 
 
and then in March 2020 something else happened , oh I seem to have forgotten what that was It I seem to remember it was on the news but now like you it has slipped my mind completely. 

Yeah so of course it’s not the greatest injustice of humanity but the more times we are charged and no points deducted the more it seems to polarise opinions. For Derby fans (some , maybe most) think it shows the Efl are out to get us. For certain Bristol fans it shows that Derby are always “getting away with it.”

Please don’t state your opinions as Facts. We are not the first club to go into admin since the pandemic struck and we won’t be the last. 
 
if reckless spending caused us to go into admin they would have gone into admin in 2017/18 or 2018/18. We didn’t.
we went into admin during the worst pandemic for 100 years and we were the club worst affected financially by that. .. because we had the largest crowds prior to COVID and didn’t get the COVID loans that other clubs got.

Oh good.

Exactly. The money ran out. And the reason why the money ran out was because of COVID.

Ok maybe taking it too far, but there does come a point when somebody getting charged over and over starts to feel a bit victimised . 
On the admin I totally get the need for a moral hazard clause … and indeed a force majeure clause too. 

but the EFL should stop bleating about the appeal. The admin team are perfectly entitled to make it.
 

That'll be Kirchner, Kirchener, Kirschner and Kitchener then according to this thread

It will say that the Efl will be disappointed and very much regret the decision of an independent panel. 

As David has pointed out the appeal will be heard by an independent panel. And actually it’s the opposite … given the disgraceful posturing by our regulator ( saying they are “shocked “ we are appealing , etc etc) …  and their various apologists like Maguire , if the independent panel decides to overturn the points deduction that will only prove beyond any doubt that the EFL are out to get us.
Because that would be three times out of three they will have tried to deduct points from us … and failed. Surely they should get the message but no it only seems to make them even more determined to get us next time. 

As David has pointed out the appeal will be heard by an independent panel. And actually it’s the opposite … given the disgraceful posturing by our regulator ( saying they are “shocked “ we are appealing , etc etc) …  and their various apologists like Maguire , if the independent panel decides to overturn the points deduction that will only prove beyond any doubt that the EFL are out to get us.
Because that would be three times out of three they will have tried to deduct points from us … and failed. Surely they should get the message but no it only seems to make them even more determined to get us next time. 

You highlight jozwiak signing .. yet we made a large transfer profit in that same summer. And we actually haven’t paid that much for him .. yet.
 
and our losses were not £3m per month at any time , and certainly not just before COVID struck. 
total losses at the height of spending were £43 million over three years …  ie £14 million pa and that was for the three years ending 2018. 
 
that was along time ago. Since then spending has come down a lot from 2017/18 peak.
 
you’re dodgy at accounts I would suggest .. are you Maguire in disguise? 
 
 

Please don’t state your opinions as Facts. We are not the first club to go into admin since the pandemic struck and we won’t be the last. 
 
if reckless spending caused us to go into admin they would have gone into admin in 2017/18 or 2018/18. We didn’t.
we went into admin during the worst pandemic for 100 years and we were the club worst affected financially by that. .. because we had the largest crowds prior to COVID and didn’t get the COVID loans that other clubs got.

Who?

Exactly. The money ran out. And the reason why the money ran out was because of COVID.

I think your record is stuck. If there was a big money tree we would not be in administration. 
there is no money tree. Money doesn’t grow on trees. we know this. 

 
 

Please don’t state your opinions as Facts. We are not the first club to go into admin since the pandemic struck and we won’t be the last. 
 
if reckless spending caused us to go into admin they would have gone into admin in 2017/18 or 2018/18. We didn’t.
we went into admin during the worst pandemic for 100 years and we were the club worst affected financially by that. .. because we had the largest crowds prior to COVID and didn’t get the COVID loans that other clubs got.

I think your record is stuck. If there was a big money tree we would not be in administration. 
there is no money tree. Money doesn’t grow on trees. we know this. 

 
 

I think your record is stuck. If there was a big money tree we would not be in administration. 
there is no money tree. Money doesn’t grow on trees. we know this.