Andrew3000

Apologies if posted elsewhere on the forum.

I'm only just catching up with posts from yesterday, but where I believe the EFL are taking a pedantic and erroneous line is that they are effectively saying that these claims must be treated as debts owed to Football Creditors simply because the claimants are football clubs. This is patent nonsense, because they don't arise from any kind of transaction between DCFC and the Claimants. It's not what the Football Creditors rules were designed for. I imagine HMRC think this is bollo too. 
Bear in mind that every £ these two chancers are paid is a £ that genuine unsecured Creditors won't see. The EFL should not be placing them above genuine creditors. It's disgraceful. 

Tom, she has already agreed  to arrange a meeting with the Sports Minister on this.
A good way to encourage Amanda's involvement is to stress the mental health impact of all this on us as fans, she is very supportive. 

If he does go to Everton, i will bear no grudges for him, none whatsoever. The way the season started, a handful of pros with some kids and dad's army i thought we would get relegated and the season was going to be depressing and a total write off. Now even with -21 points, all the rubish off the pitch, we are loving what is going on the pitch and that is down to WR. the way the team is playing, the passion, the kids coming through, the fight on the pitch, it is turning out to be a great season and may be exceptional. 

I shall be purple with rage if this were to happen...... 

What a team we have. I would love to see the data from all those sports bras and see the difference between a couple of seasons back and now.
These men; they are men - not boys not lads, they leave everything on the pitch, every game. I am so proud to be part of this magnificent quest we are on. The EFL haven’t an ounce of sportsmanship in their twisted, regressive, genetically flawed DNA. I hope for justice now but it’s a faint hope, but I know for certain that this team will be remembered. Our newly promoted midfield general is 19 years old  has tenacity, drive, maturity and determination far beyond his years. Our club Captain, in the late autumn of his career, is playing football of the highest order game after game. Our team Captain has transformed from being troubled and petulant into the fine skilled footballer we always hoped he could be. 
 
Anyway, hyperbole aside .. what a cracking day. Tight game but we played proper football, kept them at bay and did the goal scoring thing pretty damned well.
Joz was ok but Fozzy made a difference winning headers and Colin just doesn’t tolerate bullies does he !
10/10 for every player, Pointless singling out anyone in what is a real team; but can someone explain why wrapping your arms round an opponent or two handed  pushes within 2 yards of a well placed assistant referee is allowable ? I saw one or the other on 5 occasions. 
 
Fight to the end, I love this team, it’s special and a certain chubby scouser needs credit for sticking it together with glue and sawdust ( extra sawdust from tree felling work available next week I hope ) 
 
 

Heartbreaking this is. Mel Morris, what have you done. I can’t put into words what this club means to me and all of us.  
 
I am just lost for words now. 

One of the immediate problems I suspect is that Lech Posnan are due £2.2m in early February.
I say we turn our back on them.

Just seen this tweet. Not listened so can't comment.
"New episode! It’s The January Transfer Window with my brother Joe McClaren (Head of Recruitment at Derby County FC) One for #dcfc fans but also all football fans."
 

They're not mutually exclusive.

Absolutely. Why would be allowed to sign a new keeper (creating an additional wage burden), but not 'upgrade' an existing keeper we're already paying?

Really? ?
In the infamous words of Alan Partridge:
“Go to London, I guarantee you'll either be mugged or not appreciated. Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway.”

All  good names for the future Pride Park ?
Accessed from  the Derby Way 

As long as we remember to include the phrase "....Derby County FC, its heirs and successors..." or suchlike in any add-on clauses.

How would living in in London be appealing to a young Derby lad ! - it’s ok to visit for a day or two after that it’s a pleasure to leave!

Good news. Nothing personal Dave!

It's just reached the point of pure embarrassment, from Boro, Wycombe and the EFL.
All those rival fans that are finding joy in all this when they could easily be next, wake up.
The game is littered with utter BS, we tried to find a different way with amortisation to compete with those awarded millions for failure, which the EFL retrospectively on Gibson's request found us guilty. 
Naughty Derby, grow up.
Rules have been retrospectively added to cover the EFL arses. Google enhanced embargo, see what comes up, Derby County, there was never a enhanced embargo before all this, it's something you came up with as Mel Morris publicly challenged you.
Meanwhile we have state owned clubs when sponsorships for official hotels, soaps and rubber ducks for 10x what they could buy this club for in the Premier League.
Do you not even realise how anti competitive the league that's responsible for your revenue is, do you not realise that the very existence of the Championship relies on multi millionaires prepared to be losing upwards of half a million a month, it's not sustainable even by your own rules.
Derby County reject a bid for their player which could be derisory, yet the EFL are on our case, are we in the position now where we have to sell Jason Knight for a fiver to keep Rick Parry happy, if that's the case then just end the game now.
We lost Kaide Gordon to Liverpool for a bag of monster munch and Freddo over that deal you agreed with the PL, how is that looking after your member clubs when they have to gift wrap the young stars that have been educated both on an off the field to satisfy the greed of the top 6 in this country.
Explain the benefit of that deal to your member clubs, please explain as from the fans that love the game, all we see is our clubs being screwed over.
Out of 2 play off finals which we were beaten, we were beaten by clubs that would have failed EFL FFP, we took it on the chin yet here we are, one club using bookies odds to build a case and another that didn't even earn promotion on merit jeopardising the existence of this club.
Meanwhile the MSM are far more interested in the likes of Man United and Newcastle to even realise what is going on outside the gold pit. The game is dying whilst the "journalists" are far more interested in finding the next tweet to create a clickbait article than actually do their jobs.
Nobody wants to touch it, why? We have a Serbian tennis player refused entry to a country and tournament, everyone, every journalist in sport is weighing in as we're sat here in limbo over let's not forget, retrospective punishment.
The EFL signed off our accounts that we have now been punished for, let that sink in.
I'm sick of it, sick of the rival fans looking to take the piss without understanding the situation, sick of the incompetent governing bodies, sick of Gibson and that Wycombe numpty.
We've rolled over, accepted the retrospective punishment, saved the EFL embarrassment of explaining themselves in court, yet the EFL are too gutless to tell the curly haired one to shut up as they are in fear of landing themselves in court over the utter shambolic way they have ran this league.
Grow some balls Rick, accept some responsibility over how the investigations were handled and do the right thing, tell Gibson to F off, tell Wycombe to F off and learn from your mistakes.

Think the mistakes that landed in this go much further back, but it was a huge mistake. 
I can understand why the administrators did it, draw a line under it and just move on so they can transfer ownership.
It hasn't drawn a line though, we're still unable to move on and to think they now want us to just roll over and leave our players outside Pride Park for a car boot sale is just sickening.
Should concern ALL football fans, not just Derby, not because they will receive the same fair treatment, as it's been shown now they have no interest in fairness. 
If the EFL pin your clubs badge on their most wanted board, which can happen, your clubs existence is in jeopardy, forget the banter, the rivalry, that should be a huge concern for anyone that loves their club.

Kraftwerk??????

If he has we won’t be able to container selves 

Agree, I think with omicron we're hopefully nearing the end now.  
The overt misinformation still winds me up, especially when its done by politicians and the media who keep the threat of further restrictions hanging over us but as far as my daily life is goes, its pretty much back to normal.
It is probably time to dial back the involvment in this thread, it has often been tribal like the old politics thread - fun at times, a chore at others.  So I'll wish everyone a belated happy new year and unless something significant changes I think I'm about done ?

Personally from Saturday onwards I am trying not to reply to stuff I think is baalocks because as you say it’s just pointless/ boring , people wishing harm on others and or taking pleasure from it is just about the time to stop ,
the thread in some ways has kept me from exploding over the last two years though but it’s becoming the brexit thread on steroids ??‍♂️

Chuntering about covid takes my mind off the far more serious situation surrounding Derby atm!

Everyone (well most) on here are entrenched in their position. Guess that’s modern life, but I don’t think it would hurt seeing as it we are bothering to spend time on a chat/forum to see stuff from different perspectives.