Stive Pesley

We're right to be cautious about following up the long term effects, given how quickly it was developed, but this is all clearly bad science being twisted by the media to fuel the debates that fund them
Given that most women in their 40s will have had the vaccine, and most women in their 40s start to see changes in their periods anyway as the menopause approaches - 4000 reports out of however many million women jabbed is just noise
We should only really be concerned about looking for trending in side-effects that pose a serious health threat IMO
 
 

Just to try and bring the thread back to Coronavirus, I thought alot of you wanted the borders closed last year but are now unhappy that Priti Patel wants to do it...make your minds up

And with the same punchline - why does Rupert The Bear wear checked trousers?

No - if anything it has given her an incredible empathy with refugees and and asylum seekers!

True. Doesn't seem to have had any lasting effects on her though.

There's a big difference between
a) waking up to nonsense (of which there is plenty), and
b) getting frustrated that things have gone on as long as they have, looking to lash out but in concentrating where your fists are aiming forgetting to check your footing and subsequently falling down a rabbit-hole of counter-nonsense, having your emotions played on by  any old ******** 'opinion-dressed-as-news' article that seeks to stoke the fires of discontent, and partaking in social media echo-chambers where you get dragged deeper and deeper into giving credence to conspiracy theories.
Obviously I'm not seeking to tar everyone who's unhappy (who's happy, exactly?)  with the b) brush because that would be a gross generalisation, and most people (I assume, I hope) are smarter than that, but there are plenty of people who've well and truly been suckered by the very same brand of ******** they'll tell everyone else is the 'truth' they've closed their eyes to.

Why does Noddy have a bell on his hat?

Jesus wept, she is one of the most powerful people in the country.

Come on buddy, if we're going to have to endure another round of your 'global Covid conspiracy' theories, whereby every country systematically brings it's own economy to it knees, crashes stock markets and reduces both the public and private sectors to rubble, would you mind at least giving us less enlightened folk the benefit of a credible reason for this cunning masterplan? Something other than some vague, 'follow the money' schtick? Is Jeff Bezos actually Megamind? Will there be a Scooby Doo type reveal...
Also, please don't try to assign upper strata levels of intelligence to the likes of Johnson, Gove, Patel, Hancock and the other ministers purportedly managing the Covid crisis. They are rank second-raters. I'm sorry, but if your whole premise is based on ministers like the terminally stupid Priti Patel being some sort of criminal and conspiratorial masterminds, I'm calling ********. The reason these people appear not to have a clue is precisely because they don't. At best they do their master's bidding.
By way of an example, here's a gentle reminder as to the depth of our current Home Secretary's critical thinking capabilities. 
 

The list of jokes originated from @maxjam. Don’t try to pin them on me.?

Why about those who have  died of boredom from hearing this argument for nearly 18 months?

Sorry mate - but you are attempting to link 2 random occurrences to the vaccine. With zero medical evidence. That doesn't deserve anything else but derision
Come on - covid vaccine responsible for a muscle tear in the calf??

The nosebleed experience that you describe is almost exactly like what happened to me - spooky in fact. It was horrible, nose just started bleeding for no reason and took ages to stop. Eventually it did but then an hour later I sneezed and it started again but this time wouldn't stop - I was swallowing loads of blood, made to hang around the A&E ward for hours with a tampon up my nose (yes really!). I had to have the blood vessels in my nose cauterised, and it took me several weeks to get over it
It was in October 2019, over a year before I had the vaccine. Still...makes you think .It has to be linked right?

Sorry mate - but you are attempting to link 2 random occurrences to the vaccine. With zero medical evidence. That doesn't deserve anything else but derision
Come on - covid vaccine responsible for a muscle tear in the calf??

The nosebleed experience that you describe is almost exactly like what happened to me - spooky in fact. It was horrible, nose just started bleeding for no reason and took ages to stop. Eventually it did but then an hour later I sneezed and it started again but this time wouldn't stop - I was swallowing loads of blood, made to hang around the A&E ward for hours with a tampon up my nose (yes really!). I had to have the blood vessels in my nose cauterised, and it took me several weeks to get over it
It was in October 2019, over a year before I had the vaccine. Still...makes you think .It has to be linked right?

Sorry mate - but you are attempting to link 2 random occurrences to the vaccine. With zero medical evidence. That doesn't deserve anything else but derision
Come on - covid vaccine responsible for a muscle tear in the calf??

Mine was 2011.  Just started at work for no reason. Within 30 minutes I must have gone through 2 pints . Same A&E and a battery of tests. The shock level is horrific as your brain can compute it if you've been punched or fell etc.  Had a camera down my sinuses to look in my throat about 6 months before and my inclination is they damaged something that went.  Still get the occasional issue now and it's definitely reduced my mental health and increased my anxiety level being out and about.

The nosebleed experience that you describe is almost exactly like what happened to me - spooky in fact. It was horrible, nose just started bleeding for no reason and took ages to stop. Eventually it did but then an hour later I sneezed and it started again but this time wouldn't stop - I was swallowing loads of blood, made to hang around the A&E ward for hours with a tampon up my nose (yes really!). I had to have the blood vessels in my nose cauterised, and it took me several weeks to get over it
It was in October 2019, over a year before I had the vaccine. Still...makes you think .It has to be linked right?

No argument , just a different view , skip past it and save your boredom , stick with posts giving made up numbers as facts ,, and remember STAY HOME

I was fortunate enough to go to all of the Euro 96 games.  I would have liked to have gone to see England this time around, but as I'm no longer in the supporters club and with reduced capacity due to covid I guess that wouldn't have been impossible anyway so didn't even try ? 
That said, if the stadium is only half full or whatever because of restrictions yet, as with the G7, the rules are being applied differently to VIPs a lot of people including myself are going to feel justifiably upset.  
Time to get my pitchfork out!

Why about those who have  died of boredom from hearing this argument for nearly 18 months?

So the plebs that have been double jabbed still can't go.  Nice.
 

I think that it's quite refreshing that so many people who were basically Covid-sceptic at the start of the pandemic have been persuaded, by the overwhelming force of logical argument, to change their attitude and accept the reality of the situation.
Wow! I managed to keep a straight face while I was typing that.

Then surely it will no longer be of any concern to them - they'd be dead ? 

No more restrictions! Open up now!
Also:
Why are all the pubs and restaurants I want to go to having to close because of staff isolating? 
 
 
Not aimed at you Joe - but we all know know it's coming