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1 hour ago, TomTom92 said:

Warnock’s with Huddersfield isn’t he? 
 
To be fair as a short term thing to steady the ship, he isn’t the worst choice. One year to see if he can poo house us up. If not appoint someone in the summer.

Warnock is clearly someone everyone hates, unless hes your manager and then hes guaranteed entertainment + results.

We've missed the boat with him on many occasions.

We're not an attractive club - not even for Ian Evatt. Only attendances look good, and they will soon dwindle when the weather turns.

We appear to have a serious lack of ability in the squad and the better players want out. The only players queuing up to play for Derby will be non-league, but we've never managed to develop of good scouting system unless its for kids aged nine and under.

If there wasn't a transfer deadline Warne could be given the benefit of the doubt for a few months, but in two weeks time the door for new signings will be shut and he's not really given the fans any confidence with what he's brought in. So assume Cashin and Bird leave, were as good as done until January where we will be even less attractive than we already are.

Last season was a free hit. We couldn't sign anyone. But you'd have thought it would have given the club time to really address its problems and weaknesses. Instead we've developed them into something worse!

This is why teams get stuck in the lower divisions for years.

Least the away kit is nice.

Hello Darkness, my old friend........

3 minutes ago, Scott129 said:

No, he absolutely should not have.

The man is a well-known business vulture - he waits in the shadows until the business is on its knees before swooping in and putting a tenner on the table.

He will let us get to the point of having absolutely nothing to our name - no Rooney, no player re-signings - before offering a derisory amount that will see us start with -15. All for the sake of getting something a little bit cheaper than market value.

I promise you, he should only ever be a last, last, absolutely final choice.

Are you a Geordie?

The very fact that he buys low and sells high is the reason he should be number 1 choice.

I think he's got it right. At the end of the day football is just his job, and while its most men's dream to be a professional footballer, he's been there and done it on the pitch. He's now being paid probably the same as he was paid at Derby, is free from criticism and is constantly surrounded by positivity. That can't be a bad life at all.

If he gets games under his belt and stays fit why wouldn't we sign him?

My silly brain thinks he's gone to this team I've never heard of so he can come play for us when all the rubbish off the pitch is settled.

I'd like to see James Wilson back at Derby. He was unlucky when with us before and has dropped down the levels to get game time and find fitness. Played 38 games for Port Vale, only 8 goals - but still one of those players who is too good for league two and has a point to prove.

Johnny Williams also in league two playing for Swindon. Surprised hes only 28.

1 hour ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

I always thought he threw it, to be honest i always thought Rowett threw the Fulham game too, couldn't for the life me work out why he defendes for 135 minutes.

He definitely threw it. If Derby were promoted it would have been a difficult decision to leave for Chelsea and a transfer embargo. Lose/lose.

By leaving a Championship side with little to spend, to join a team where he couldn't spend (and therefore had an excuse) he was in a win/win situation.

And I think he's gone on to prove that he's out of his depth as a manager. How long has he been at Everton? already losing the plot.

It feels a lot like Mel is still pulling the strings because its a case of either Derby County goes or someone has to look into his books in some detail. Something to hide.

21 minutes ago, nottingram said:

I think we’d be lucky to get £500k

Exactly. We never win. Survive and the club has to rebrand itself as a hard bargain.

On 25/01/2022 at 09:57, Ted McMinn Football Genius said:

If we lose Festy too, all I can ask is what was the ducking point of the academy. We are being picked off and all thanks to Mel Morris for abandoning us ????

There's a certain irony in that the sales from the academy could save the club after Mel insisted x amount of players from the academy were played in the first team (whether the manager agreed or not) because it was the Derby way.

Thanks Mel

17 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

I agreed with all of that until I saw your current valuation of Lawrence at the end 

Its not my valuation but my guess at the going rate for a player out of contract in the summer who plays for a team without a penny. In the unreal world of football we should be getting minimum of £10m for him.

11 hours ago, nogbad van 50 said:

Personally,I’m a Tom Lawrence fan so I’m finding it hard to come to terms with all this praise now suddenly being lavished on him when it wasn’t so long ago that he was being cast as a club villain for his part in the “Joiners affair”. His commitment and work ethic was being questioned on various social media on a weekly, sometimes daily ,basis and so many “fans” were happy to state their dissatisfaction with what they perceived as a lack of effort and discipline on his part. He has his faults but Rooney has seen enough to make him captain so he must be doing something right.His contract ,like so many others ,finishes at the end of June and it just may be that a decent transfer fee,while he’s playing well,may just be enough to keep us afloat until the preferred bidder is named.Players come and players go,that’s football! The main thing is that we still have a Club to support at the end of this never ending nightmare.I’ve followed Derby since 1964 and one thing is for sure, it’s never ever been boring !

A lot of that was true and justified criticism - he's been far from consistent and petulant at times. You could say that he's playing to put himself in the shop window, or that its typical that after all his issues on and off the pitch he's got himself back on track we're going to lose him.

Its little wonder we're in such a mess. Rarely do we get a talent who showcases their skills to the maximum at Derby and leaves for a brilliant fee.

To reiterate we spent £10m on Johnson (who wouldn't even attempt to use his right foot to control the ball) and Butterfield who could slow down a high speed train. We sold an 'on form' Hughes for what? £7m? We signed Lawrence for £7m and we haven't got value for him and he's going to go for possibly £3-4m.

Derby 1-0. Rooney off the bench with a diving header (still in his jacket).

Would rather we start smashing some own goals in and celebrate them like our own.

We can choose how many we score depending on what's required to really mess the league up.

Said it before, football clubs never started out as a business and only because of television have they become one. I'd agree with punishment if the cause (Mel) was still in charge and still trying to be clever, but punishing a peoples club is ridiculous. We have nothing. You can't keep punishing Derby County out of spite. If the owner was deemed fit for purpose then the EFL are partly to blame.

In situations like this the former owner should be responsible for clearing at least some of the debt.

As things stand he has walked away and its the players, staff, and supporters who are punished. How is that? Point deductions shouldn't even be a thing. Punishment should be that Derby County (or anyone else) are unable to be promoted for a season or two and a wage cap applied. No reward, and a team limited in comparison to the rest of the league. That's it.

We've seen it before Derby and we will see it again. No owner should be able to punish so many innocent people and that's partly on the league to manage.

On 22/11/2021 at 10:09, dcfc4ever said:

Some embarrassing comments in this thread,some of our fan base are clueless.Well played yesterday Tom Lawrence keep up that performance and you could well save our Derby County from relegation then no one will be moaning about you.Tom Lawrence the new legend ?

He's going in January. For nothing. Definitely won't be helping Derby stay up.

He played well on Sunday. It will be his one in five. Plus he's got to put himself in the shop window now.

Everything thats wrong with Derby can be summed up by Tom Lawrence. We overpaid for him, he's overall under performed, he'll go for free, and he'll come back and score a hattrick against us followed by a knee slide and cupped ears in front of the South Stand.

Gibson should be taking MM to court for that money. Not a football club. He's attacking the fans.

As far as I am concerned neither Derby County or Middlesbrough should be brought into the conversation in public. Its between two businessmen.

I still don't understand how MM can just walk away and leave the club, its fans, staff and players in such a mess.

To continue to punish the club while the cause of the problems walks away is just scandalous.

23 minutes ago, hintonsboots said:

Tom is a quality

Define quality please

14 hours ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said:

If we did replace the management of DCFC, the question is…. Who in their right mind would want to take this “Mission Impossible” on.

Mick Mccarthy managed Ireland. Derby County would be easy.

15 hours ago, plymouthram said:

Rafael Benitez (good manager but wanted a spending spree to challenge the Man City's etc and unlike Mel, Ashley was not going to gamble)

Exactly this. Imagine if Ashley had gambled and then Covid hit and the state of Newcastle was the same as Derby? Instead they've been brought and are now the richest club in the world. We're skint.

I think the fact that Ashley has left them in such a good position is massively overlooked by the Geordies. He'll get no credit for what they're going to go on and do.

Ashley said himself that he can't compete financially with some of the investors in the Premier League now. The landscape has changed considerably in the last 14 years. The problem with Newcastle supporters is their expectations outweighed Ashley's wealth. But look at them now. Without Ashley they wouldn't be in that position, they might not have been in the Premier League to be attractive enough to buy.

The man isn't stupid. But he wouldn't be buying a club with high expectations in Derby. You couldn't get further from it.

Will he run the club as a business? yes. Would we agree with every decision he makes (for the business)? no. Would he leave Derby in the same mess Mel has? no. Would he sell the club at a profit? you bet he would.

If the latter is the case, and he sells us in the Prem, I'm damn sure we'd be wrong to judge him on what Newcastle fans wanted for so long. Especially now they've got it.

2 hours ago, NottsRammy said:

thought he was to clever

That's Mel in a nutshell. Cringed at his TalkSport interviews and thought every time that it's likely to come back to bite us.