therams69

4 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said:

Jeez Nick! @Ambitious wanted him to die! I just wanted him to eat poo. 

Haha! Personally find it very hard to criticise him. local man that ploughed alot of dough into Boro, brought them some good years in the Premiership, new stadium and took them into Europe... Derby meanwhile.....

1 minute ago, DCFC27 said:

People aren’t allowed to spread rumours on this forum. I was well informed about about Mel and the sale on quite a few things but my comments deleted because I’m not John Percy. Some of what I hear ends up being rubbish too, but that’s the thing about rumours you’ll get some stuff like that. 
 

FWIW another takeover is being lined up by a local consortium, they can’t get the funds to make it happen as it stands but if the fans are in next year and we haven’t been sold off to whoever will take us before then it may well happen. 

I hope so .. Would prefer a local consortium to anything else. A board of good figures as opposed to 1 man deciding everything. Lets just hope this come to fruition and quickly.

Just now, Mostyn6 said:

I hope he survives but swallows a floater 

In all seriousness, would we not be doing the same as him as in a club? Bitter and all that I get but if the shoe was on the other foot?

3 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Youve said that we will get a points deduction which is complete speculation. The matter is being referred back to the DC who initially pretty much ruled most things in our favour. 

Im not exactly sure what I am fighting for?

Didnt the club put out a statement after the final match and again today regarding the EFL announcement? What exactly are you wanting them to say?

Not lead to believe it will be anything different to that... Are you?

Said this on another thread. Reassurance that the club is going to be okay. Why haven't neither of them spoke to the fans? They are hiding. That statement wasn't from them. May well be titled that but nothing personal in there.

If you feel they should stay quiet then this convo doesnt need to go on as going round in circles.

Just now, G STAR RAM said:

Without sounding rude, if you have something to tell us all why not just say it instead of carrying on with all of this cryptic nonesense.

You claim to have the clubs best interests at heart, so surely if you have some earth shattering news then surely you would need us all to know to get us on your side and putting some pressure on the ownership. 

Now I don't know you but from what other people say you seem to be a nice genuine guy, but from an outsider point of view, the tactics you are employing on here just make you lool like an attention seeker. I'm not saying that as an insult just letting you know why you will potentially be harming the cause that you say you want people to join with you and fight.

I know you've said you wont say anything because people know who you are but what are you expecting? Mel Morris and Stephen Pearce to come round your house when it is dark and bury you under Pride Park Stadium?

As long as what you are saying is factual and not libellous I'm really not sure why you think that you cannot say it on here.

I have .... Actually posted this before I had finished writing it - work came calling! I finished by saying the worst is yet to come with the points deduction and unclarity is not what we need. We need to focus on next season and whilst all this hangs over our heads we are not going anyway. To add to this with the depleted squad, minus points to start with, who is going to want to sign for us let alone own us without confirmation of where we start...

Correct you dont me. Lets leave it as that.

This isnt my fight. Its all of our fight. I just want to hear from our CEO and chairman, simple really.

The best will come when we are given a point penalty..

We all wanted to move on to next season. Sooner this is sorted the better!

1 minute ago, Millenniumram said:

Ffs Erik, not again!

Haha no!

Listen .... You know .... The best is yet to come.... #tiktok

4 minutes ago, Boycie said:

Was it him who delivered us King Billy? He’s got a little chopper hasn’t he?

Haha yep!

1 minute ago, Philmycock said:

Marples. I'm sure all the former apprentices that lost jobs at his ramshackle company hang on every word he says. Self-centred baffoon.

True but not here to dispute that

3 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

I'm not on Facebook Nick... What's it say? 

Sorry SP I am not that skilled when it comes to uploading images on here... Couple of posts of interest though. One dated 21 April and one in May. Hopefully someone will upload and we can all make judgement. Good to hear from you again SP and a familiar old face!

Good to see Pav and the Punjabi Rams get behind the campaign for answers...

Now I know Peter Marples has his grudges against Mel but you might want to have a look at a couple of his facebook posts. Interesting reading to say the least. His facebook is open by the way.

Just now, David said:

Apologies for taking it the wrong way, as I say I do get a little defensive of this place.

Doesn’t surprise me what you heard though, this forum, myself, taken stick over the years with all kinds of accusations made.

It’s largely why I’ve stayed quiet myself recently, something that I said would never let happen but it gets to that point where it just hurts, especially with what’s gone on the pitch.

Last year has been a real grind, why I’m looking forward to the Euros to be honest, bit of a break from it all.

No need to apologise ?

Yep and me mate. I covered this in my first original post but i felt that if I didn't say anything then i would regret it.

Let's just hope we get some assurance soon and we can all look forward to the Euro's!

36 minutes ago, David said:

@therams69Just something that has come to me, as I understand you believe fans from outside this forum are demanding answers from the top and this forum is in some way censored or has it’s head buried in the sand.

A protest was widely discussed before I went away, a tweet which I saw many disagreed with, not just on this forum but in the replies. This was later cancelled due to concerns over access to the Arena parking where vaccinations were taking place.

Fair enough, but can you tell me why 200 or so fans were able to attend the ground to show support to the players both before and after the Sheffield Wednesday game without using the opportunity to demand answers from the club or blocking access?

I’m led to believe this idea was initially started on Twitter and shared on this forum, so it wasn’t members from this forum out to give a false narrative.

Were these fans the minority and thousands more which would have blocked access to the arena stayed away to protest another day?

This is a genuine question as I do feel that this forum displays a diverse set of opinions, and yes get a little defensive when it’s suggested otherwise.

Sorry what I meant David was that their was a huge difference in opinion compared to on here as to various other forms. I did not say that this forum was censored or would ever think that.

There was reasons for the protest being cancelled and I also believe that was the right thing to do considering many factors. I have spoken to Club 84 and had a really good chat with him - many reasons why it was cancelled.

I cannot tell you that no as it was nothing to do with me. However, my opinion is that they were the solely to support the lads and that was important. Its very hard to go from such a high positive (which thankfully it turned out to be) to such a negative in such a short space of time. That would like be celebrating at Leeds away and then demanding that we have answers from the owners, just would not work. Obviously had we gone down then who knows what will have happened...

To my knowledge, it was different groups organising different things. There was also knowledge that Wednesday were turning up so a protest in addition to the support for the players would have been difficult to manage.

You know I support this forum David, you do not need to question that.

3 minutes ago, Spanish said:

I feel quote confident in criticizing Mel and the regime, I do not feel in the minority at all.   Defensive isn't especially how I would describe myself quite the opposite really

The fact that most of us on here seem more worldly wise than others elsewhere means that we probably have a greater understanding as to how businesses work.  You have been called out by @IslandExileto articulate exactly how we should go about getting answers and what are the questions that should be asked.  I suggest you start with that and then you may attract a more appreciative audience

No one has called me out. LOL.

Already told IslandExile what to do and my first original post was clear what needs to be the outcome. Refreshing that you are asking about how we go about it though... I don't hold all the answers, what do you suggest?  Issue we have is that we are asking for info which is alien to any other board out protest I have ever known. We know he wants to sell etc

5 minutes ago, Spanish said:

What a load of rubbish

My opinion Spanish. I have spoken to people who ironically mentioned this forum to me yesterday at the Racecourse, they said you wont get anywhere on here if you try and bash Mel. And you would be right I am bashing him and Pearce because they are the only people within Derby County Football Club that can give answers and reassure fans. Not that anyone feels they have the right to that mind, which is just weird but there you go... Perhaps thats how the modern day fan is nowadays, I dont know...

Anyone I have spoken to in person and on other platforms fully agrees that we should be getting answers from the top. Yet on here all anyone is bothered about is why I can't post certain info or they feel that Mel or our CEO dont have to answer to us. Don't get all defensive but that is how I see it as I read the replies.

2 minutes ago, Norman said:

So what are you saying. Mel is selling to whoever because he doesn't want to near enough give the club away for free to a local businessman or one backed by investors.

I'm guessing the Keogh case is dragging on, and we have a hefty fine hanging over us for FFP breaches. 

It doesn't look great and it doesn't look like Mel will sell for a pound if it meant selling to the right person(s). 

I don't trust this football club. We have let a fake Sheikh have a say on signings and our current manager. What the hell are we doing? 

8 minutes ago, David said:

Just to answer this as it came through whilst I was writing my reply.

The last meeting scheduled I believe was cancelled due to Covid restrictions, I would need to go through my emails to find when that was exactly.

Since then the supporters liaison officer has left her role and no further meetings have been scheduled.

Could they have been done remotely? Yes, why wasn’t they? I honestly don’t know. If I was to guess then I would say perhaps hands have been tied in what can be said. 

I imagine most questions asked would have been met with no comment.

I don’t know if anyone else in attendance knows anything more. I haven’t spoke with any of the other groups.

 

That's right David.

Do you not think it makes a mockery of the whole thing? What is the point in it.

When questions are answered with no comment, what does that tell you? He was quite happy to try and get us to sign a confidentiality agreement form........

For the record - the last 2 minutes of the last 2 meetings were never signed off and we both know who had to sign these off.

2 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

All you have really done is accuse us supporters of having our head "buried in the sand".

Look at the posts from all the other topics. People do not have their heads in the sand - just the opposite in fact. Everyone on here is as worried as anything about what is happening to our great club - both on the pitch and behind the scenes.

Every day, people post whatever morsel of information they obtain. Every day, those snippets are pieced over with people speculating on what it might mean. Every day - and I am sure I am not alone in this - I check this and other websites in case new information has come to light.

So, please do not accuse me - or others - of having our heads in the sand.

I imagine that if I, or anyone, wrote to Mel about the current situation, we would get a standard response referring us to the statement put out by the club on Sunday morning.

So, what do you expect us to do - to be "proactive"??????

If you do know something that would cause us to rise up and protest, then why not tell us?

Otherwise, it smacks that you are yet another of those who claim to be ITK but say nothing.....and, yes, as such, you should expect a negative response. We're still waiting to hear from the guy who told us Steve Bruce would be appointed within 48 hours of Cocu leaving.

Listen, the last thing I want to do is accuse other Derby fans of burying their hands in the sand but the general feedback I am getting is that this is the case. And might I add, only on this forum!!!

You wouldn't need to write that post if our CEO or Owner came out and spoke to us would you? Let's just leave it at that. That is all I am trying to get done so when I say be proactive, call Radio Derby tonight, call Nico at the DET and see what they have to say...

We have covered all this ITK. Many people know who I am on here. Many have said that i would not put my head on the line if I didn't strongly believe in something, can you not trust that or is it a case that I am just going to go down as another fan as ITK? Generally the people that post like that don't have a first name and are pretty anon. I think in all the years, despite being told stuff, I have never posted to my knowledge anything ITK, just not how I do things, I respect privacy and trust as opposed to having the need to post stuff to get compliments left right and centre.

2 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said:

The last thing we need is a pragmatic, common sense opinion!

Mel wants to sell the club. I trust he'll sell it to someone who will good for the club. He's already said he'll fund the club until this point.

If our good form in Winter had continued, and we'd finished 10th, everyone would a lot less worried about the ownership now. It was like no one was bothered that the Amigos were crooks until we started doing badly.

If we had conceded a bizarre own goal in the final minute on Saturday, people would be down there now protesting.

Let's split this up. Hard to consider the football side of it on this particular thread and although interlinked important for now we keep them separate when discussing the future of the football club.

Mel wants to sell the club / needs investment. Has done for the past 2-3 years with no buyer found. Strange that in itself when you consider the potential. Guess the likes of Burnley are more appealing, cannot think why mind but they are the facts.

You trust he will sell to someone who is good for the club. Hmm. Due diligence went well with the Arabs didn't it. You suggesting that was the best buyer for Derby County?!?! We then have Alonso and some Indonesian takeover. Again, I dont know much about these in fairness but its not exactly positive is it. Why did he not accept the American bid? It would be fair to say that he will only accept what is best for him, not the club, that is my opinion otherwise he would entertained the Americans / Gadsby etc. Lets see how desperate he becomes...

He said 3 months ago that he would do that. 3 months ago when it looked likely a takeover was imminent. This is my whole point. With that failed takeover now in the past and an absolute embarrassment surrounding it, why has he not come out and said it more recent? Why did he not make a personal comment in the club statement yesterday? Why do we have no CEO? Why are the running from the local media? 

I said it originally. The result on Saturday was just that. More important things to be concerned about and I see the press are already picking that up today which is of no surprise. As I say, assurance could be given, but certain people are refusing to do so, why?

6 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

And why put this on David?

If you know something, why don't you tell us instead of trying to get somebody else to put their head above the parapet?

Did you read what I asked David? If so you dont need to ask me that.

I am not for one minute suggesting that David knows something that I do that I am not happy to put my name to. I was asking for his opinion on how he perhaps feels that the meetings have stopped? Or how do you feel as a member that you haven't been told anything by David going to said meetings because the club wont meet? Or why no minutes have been produced by the club on the last 2 meetings? David can only answer them as he is your go to... That is the reason he has a seat at the table. Just be great to hear from him.

7 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

I set the poll up but, that aside....

You are asking us to be proactive.... How? What about? We don't know anything. You claim that you do but won't tell us. So what do you expect us to do?

Write to Mel? Write to our MP?

Dear Sirs, I must protest in the strongest possible terms about something I don't know anything about.

I know you did.

Well I don't see how setting up a silly poll would be proactive, its more of a piss take towards what I posted if I am being honest.

If you wrote to Mel, do you really think you would get a response? 

On 08/05/2021 at 09:55, Angry Ram said:

My take. If almost anyone else would have put their name to the OP, I would have shrugged my shoulders and moved on. I know Nick, not well just nodding really at games and have always admired the time and effort he has put into a club he clearly loves. We have both been in the 200 at Cardiff or Ipswich on a cold Tuesday. Not that makes anyone a super fan or anything and I know he has already batted those comments away. Those comments would have hurt him I’m sure. 
However he has posted it and I do give it credence because it was from him and what does he get from just stirring? That’s not him. We all know he has contacts in the club and will be a lot more ITK than I will ever be. 
I’ve had concerns about the club but only from what I see. This post has reaffirmed those fears. Some will poo poo, that’s fine but at least look beyond a post on a forum. Smoke and fire?  
??

Thank you Angry... Nice to not feel belittled as that seems the general approach to things on this forum. Crikey it has changed over the years..... 

Super fan - thank you. They do hurt me yes as I hate that tag! Again, those that know me, know that... From the outside and if you wanted to dig i could see why many would think that, really will never ever be the case though in my mind.

I see today we have more smoke and fire. Unfortunately the response on here is to setup a tongue in cheek poll as opposed to actually think what we need to do to be proactive. 

Perhaps @Davidas your DCFC Fans representative at meetings can offer his opinion into things goings on.  Would be good to hear your opinion as you have been present at many of the meetings I have.

49 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said:

In the days post-Saturday, I find myself seeing more and more why Nick -  @therams69 - was urging us to pull our heads out of the sand.

Some are very firmly buried.

Listen (Keogh style) I believe so... There are questions out there that need answering to reaffirm our future as a football club. 

The statement yesterday was their opportunity, titled from the top yet no quotes or said CEO Stephen Pearce or Said Owner Mel Morris.... Why? Many focused on the fact we have heard something, I focus on the fact that it wasn't what we need to hear. We all know we have had a bad season, we do not need the obvious pointing out to us and of course they apologise for that. But this is not what its all about. Our manager will sort that mess out - its the Club as a whole that is the issue here. Swerving statements like this further bury some fans heads - not mine or many others that strongly want reassurance.

Everything that is against us right now is because of utter mis management at the top. Time and time again we are trying to cover our mistakes - a well highlighted trait amongst poorly ran clubs. I do not see 23 other Championship clubs having to deal with this.

And make no mistake should we get a points deduction or a huge fine or whatever, this further concerns me that our owner will just pull the plug and fire us into admin - of course this could be reassured by the statement confirming that he will back us no matter what! But this is not forthcoming and you have to ask why. The last we heard was 3 months ago, 3 months ago..........

6 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

Then why don't you tell us?

Otherwise you just sound like other posters who don't know anything but are fearing the worst.

If you do know stuff and are trying to rally supporters around a campaign, then shouldn't you be telling folks how it is?

Because I am not that stupid to do so.

With this forum, generally most people know who I am and what I look like. I am not your standard anon poster lets be honest. Wish I was at times...

I have posted on here for years. People know I know stuff. Trust element. By all means if you think I have an alternative agenda, thats fine, but really I dont. 

5 minutes ago, Curtains said:

I do agree with that .

We definitely need more clarity after tomorrow’s game .

Maybe they feel that they can’t win and whatever they say is misconstrued.

I’m ok with a siege mentality against some sections of the media at the moment prior to a massive game as it seems to me the criticism has gone over the top  .

I expect them to be more open after tomorrow .

I think it would help but as I say a non disclosure agreement maybe in place .

Anyhow mate I admire you concern for the club and I know you are a passionate fan home and away. 
 

Us Derby fans should stick together and yo are certainly not the enemy as you implied some think you are. 

Thank you mate...

NDC nothing to do with it...

We do need to stick together as these are going to be turbulent months ahead. 

I genuinely believe if everyone knew the truth then you would be shocked.