Arsene Titman

Quantuma’s two statements (Weds and Thurs) essentially said the same thing. It doesn’t say “masses of paperwork”. Both said there are a “small number of outstanding matters (Weds)/issues (Thurs)” and waiting on things to do with third parties outside their control. The additional comment in yesterdays statement was a “multitude of documents”. 
So they’re allegedly waiting on other parties to read through, approve and sign the paperwork, it’s not the time for panic and speculation despite how frustrated we all are. It is still in process from what we’re being told, we have enough players to start the season even if it’s not the quality we all want ideally, the funding has been provided for us to complete the season. I really hope everyone can see there are positive signs and just hold on a little longer.
By all means if it doesn’t happen @me with I told you so’s and all that, I just don’t feel it’s good for any of us to get too worked up….yet! 

Fair enough. If only they were better at communicating.

Wouldn’t say that’s entirely true as Alan Nixon has had his sources on Derby information for a long time now, over the years he has been the leak of many a transfer that has happened.
He’s no different to any other journalist in that some comes off, others don’t, doesn’t automatically mean what he heard wasn’t true at the time, things change.
Where Nixon is different is the volume of what he puts out there and at times rather cryptic, cryptic as he basically wants paying for his work be it through newspapers printing or his Patreon. 
Also I don’t believe he has an agent talk filter, if it gets the clicks, the agents get the name out there, win/win. He get’s enough stuff right not to totally damage his reputation.
Nobody should hang on every word he says, at the same time he shouldn’t be dismissed as knowing nothing.
 

Yes, I listened to it. He was later corrected by Darren Robinson who said that actual number of players available when their contracts expire on Thursday is around 450 ( at all league levels) as 250 or so have already been snapped up or have a deal in place. DR is the expert in this field so I would take his figure. He also gave a number of players at league 1 level who would become available but I can’t remember what it was.

Neither. To avoid a points deduction, football creditors need to be paid in full, whilst unsecured creditors need to be paid 25% of what is owed to them. After all that has gone on, I can’t believe you don’t know that by now.

Neither. To avoid a points deduction, football creditors need to be paid in full, whilst unsecured creditors need to be paid 25% of what is owed to them. After all that has gone on, I can’t believe you don’t know that by now.

Yes, I listened to it. He was later corrected by Darren Robinson who said that actual number of players available when their contracts expire on Thursday is around 450 ( at all league levels) as 250 or so have already been snapped up or have a deal in place. DR is the expert in this field so I would take his figure. He also gave a number of players at league 1 level who would become available but I can’t remember what it was.

Yes, I listened to it. He was later corrected by Darren Robinson who said that actual number of players available when their contracts expire on Thursday is around 450 ( at all league levels) as 250 or so have already been snapped up or have a deal in place. DR is the expert in this field so I would take his figure. He also gave a number of players at league 1 level who would become available but I can’t remember what it was.

Yes, I listened to it. He was later corrected by Darren Robinson who said that actual number of players available when their contracts expire on Thursday is around 450 ( at all league levels) as 250 or so have already been snapped up or have a deal in place. DR is the expert in this field so I would take his figure. He also gave a number of players at league 1 level who would become available but I can’t remember what it was.

This sums up my thoughts exactly.

Ian Evatt would be my number 1. But compo and the fact he’s made some smart signings for Bolton may have stopped this dead in its tracks. 
 
Rosenior, Morris will surely be sniffing, Paul Cook potentially? 

Whooooa. Tread caerphilly.

do you think posts like this benefit the forum ?

Quick bit of research yields the following:
The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where DAVID CLOWES holds a current appointment equals £30m, a combined total current assets value of £536m with a total current liabilities of £137m and a total current net worth of £346m. My guess would be that while David is the front man, the new owners will effectively be the Clowes family as a whole.
For those already worrying that he / they have insufficient net worth to run a club like Derby, consider the relative wealth of Brentford owner Matthew Benham, a tiny fraction of the Clowes fortune. Consider too that Benham had to borrow £700k to fund the majority shareholding he took when he bought Brentford in 2012. Like Clowes, Benham too, is a lifelong fan of the club he has now established in the Premiership. Not all 'fan-owners' then are of Morris' ilk, so let's be balanced in our thinking. Some may say Benham is an outlier and an anomaly but the facts do not bear out this opinion. My view is rather that he simply adopted a model by which even clubs with modest fan bases can operate without losses AND enjoy success. For interest's sake, some net worth figures for a few Premiership club owners, correct as of 10/2021:
Brentford – Matthew Benham (£3m)
Norwich - Delia Smith and Michael Wynn-Jones (£23m)
Burnley – Mike Garlick (£62m)
Watford – Gino Pozzo (£93m)
Leeds – Andrea Radrizzani (£344m)
If Clowes is successful in his bid, then let's then give the man a chance to show that he intends to run the club in the way it could and should be run. There is absolutely no reason that DCFC can not break even within a few years and then turn a profit from then on. Look at the 30K +++ crowds that turned up towards the end of a post-Covid season with the team nigh on certain to be relegated. There are few clubs in the entire league that would top those numbers and the willingness of the fans to get behind the club, aligned to a measured and analytical approach to recruitment, can prove to be the cornerstones upon which a resurgent Derby County can be built. Our support was the absolute envy of the League last season, despite 3 years of ever gathering gloom and ill conceived hostility from outsiders who chose to hate before they thought. Let's not forget that. Equally, let's be respectful to and supportive of the players who ran through walls for us, even those who now choose move to pastures new. We should be, and I believe most are, grateful for what was a herculean effort from a team where a good few were earning a fraction of the wages they could command elsewhere and all played week in, week out under immense levels of pressure and uncertainty. They gave us all they had and IMO, they now owe us nothing.
Let's also look out for each other; I've tried to remain calm and upbeat throughout the last couple of years as have most, but the strain of the last few months has understandably stretched nerves to breaking point. A lot of us have expressed anger and lashed out and I'm one of them, but the truth is that lashing out at those around the process, or worse still, at other fans, serves literally no purpose. I should know better.
As we now look to the future then, akin to most fans, I suspect, I remain concerned that this may prove yet another false dawn, but this does have a rather different feel about it. We will know by this time next week whether the deal has legs, at which point we can hopefully once again begin to dream about a more positive future for the club, the fans and the wider community. In essence, the healing process can begin. Of course I am hugely biased in my view, but it's something I strongly believe; there is something quite unique and special about this club of ours, even in the darkest of times. They say that it's always darkest before the dawn and I'm sure I can see some narrow slithers of light ahead and this for the first time in several years. Perhaps a bright and beautiful new dawn will follow, perhaps something less than that, but let's try to be present, upbeat and supportive and not simply look to others. We have a huge role to play if we choose to accept it and these next few years could be some of the best in long while if we temper our expectations and rediscover the unity and passion we showed when times were hardest.

Indeed.  The fact that the vulture-buyers, i.e. doing it on commercial terms, have been overlooked suggests he is going out on a limb.  I suggest he is doing this to save the club as much as anything.  
I don't think we can expect initial glory days.  He will likely want to get promoted, pay down debt, run a tight ship for several years - and then sell at break even.  
I just hope fans don't turn on him for not turning on the taps.  
 

This is where any conversation should start and end.
The most important thing right now is saving this football club, if thats Clowes, Ashley, Appleby or even Kirchner, we should be extremely grateful.
Millions are being spent on a club that has little more than ourselves, the money it’s going to cost to purchase this club could potentially buy or even own a major stake in most Championship clubs.
It makes zero business sense buying this football club, none what so ever, so whoever it is that completes the purchase, we should be eternally grateful as we have been far too close to losing this club that means so much to us all. 
 

Technically, it's an initialism. Acronyms are where you pronounce it as a word (like FTSE, NASA), rather than sounding out the individual letters. [/pedantry]

Nixon’s update this a.m.
- admins struggling to get bidders to pay what is needed to avoid administration.
-highly unlikely that a deal will be done before June wages due.

-admins talking to one party that is part of a bidding group and that one party is willing to pay the monthly payroll c.£1.6m. This gives breathing space, avoids 3 points deduction and might help Rooney keep some players.

 

Nixon’s update this a.m.
- admins struggling to get bidders to pay what is needed to avoid administration.
-highly unlikely that a deal will be done before June wages due.

-admins talking to one party that is part of a bidding group and that one party is willing to pay the monthly payroll c.£1.6m. This gives breathing space, avoids 3 points deduction and might help Rooney keep some players.

 

I see a lot of frustration and conspiracy theory posts going on. 
 
I get the frustration. But to resort to conspiracies and venting isn’t terribly helpful(to you or any of us). 
 
It seems pretty simple to me. And I’ve said it before: this is a crap deal for any buyer. But someone will end up buying.
 
And that is why we are seeing these shadow games, use of PR teams, and the length of time this is taking. 
 
Whoever buys Derby WILL be paying too much for the asset, because of the financial situation the business is in.  And all the bidders are trying their best to get it for less. That means misinformation, PR teams, and waiting. 
 
For your own health, please stop trying to shoe-horn in some conspiracies and point fingers. 
 
Again, this is a crap Deal for any buyer, and they are trying to make it a better one by employing standard tactics when negotiating deals. And it is 100% on the bidders/buyers to get this done. 
 
A buyer will sign the deal. 
coyr

I imagine MM will stick out for his original figure. Is it £22m of a little more?

Well to be fair to him, it looks to me pretty clear what he means

Portsmouth fan here in peace. 
I'm guessing that some of you will have seen that we have previous with Andronikou involved as an administrator with us; and fair to say that those of our support who remember him hold him in utter contempt. 
I sincerely hope you manage to rid yourself of Morris' tenure and are able to move on properly from all this without him having any control over any of the assets your club needs to move forward.
Look after yourselves - and hopefully when we meet next season things will be on a bit more of an even keel for you.

Nixon also saying in the article that deal with HMRC is non negotiable but that admin fees are. Plenty to go at on that front then.

Nixon also saying in the article that deal with HMRC is non negotiable but that admin fees are. Plenty to go at on that front then.