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But that is because he is? 
 
Quite literally destroying a club as collateral damage with no regard to its fans and community, in response to a personal vendetta against another egotistical millionaire who happened to call him out in dodgy tax liability selling ffp avoiding practices. 
 
For avoidance of all doubt, Gibson has done this for 2 reasons, a quick cash grab with no due process after backroom deals with the EFL, and to destroy MMS reputation even further to the point he will not be able to enter Derbyshire. 
 
I’d say ‘scum’ is a little light under the circumstances. 

Tbf mate and it's nothing personal, you are aligned to public enemy number 1 and due to his behaviour he is making life a living hell for thousands.
I'm sure no-one has anything against you and you are a decent lad but you are poking the bear.

That tells you a lot though doesn’t it,  that we don’t know the details of his claim?
The truth here is not difficult to discern. Gibson and Morris detest each other. The reasons are lost in the mists of time and who cares? 
 
But we, Derby, are now in the position where - but for these claims - our club would have been sold in January. 
 
You say that Gibson has no desire to see Derby fold. You’re missing the point. The point is, his vendetta against Morris has pushed our sale back, he has trashed Rooney’s transfer window and he has put us at serious risk of liquidation. Our club is collateral damage in his nasty, squalid scrap and that is not acceptable to us. And I believe Gibbo also calculates that if he damages us, MM will be forced to pay for the repair, and he likes that. We see what has gone on and it is not acceptable to us.   
 
All is revealed in Gibson’s open letters - cleverly drafted by his PR and legal team. They are disingenuous, misleading and largely irrelevant to whatever the claim might be. And with each letter, the goalposts move, now it’s FFp, now it’s the stadium. (Don’t worry, we know Morris’ letter is not much better.) There is nothing confidential in his claim, so why has it not been articulated in the public arena? We know the answer. 
 
Even Couhig (whose behaviour is possibly even more revolting than Gibson’s) has had the sense to realise that to threaten a claim in these circumstances and without fully articulating it is beyond the pale. 
 
The outcome here will most likely be that MM will put in place arrangements to indemnify the club, that those arrangements will remain in place for several years at significant cost to Morris and that the claims will never be brought. (Mission accomplished for Gibbo, the worst kind of playground bully.)  And that Couhig will slither away to begin another attempt to exploit some legal system or other. 
 
Our owner has done a few shameful things in recent years. Nothing on the scale of what yours is currently up to 
 
 

3 things:-
1 - The 'clearly inflated price' comment regarding the stadium, I assume you are a commercial property valuer? What is the correct value please?
2 - The 'your accounts that have since been found to be against the rules' comment, can you please show me where our accounts were found to have been against the rules?
3 - Would you be ok with the EFL retrospectively investigating Boro for selling their tax losses to an associated company and recording it as profit to give themselves more financial headroom?

I'm not a Mel apologist by any means, but I keep reading 'Mel conned us' as a regular comment in this thread. How did Mel con us? From my understanding he didn't con us as he thought the amortisation policy had been confirmed by EFL as acceptable. 
If the amortisation policy hadn't been accepted initially by the EFL, would Mel have carried on using it? - No I don't think so, we would have used the straight line policy as per EFL suggestions. BUT, there was no recommendation to use only a straight line amortisation policy. If the amortisation policy hadn't been accepted initially by the EFL, would there have been proceedings hindering any takeover process - possibly but that would have been down to the arbitration process related to the stadium valuation (which we were found not guilty of). If the amortisation policy hadn't been retro-actively deemed by the EFL to be unacceptable, would we have failed FFP in the years we did? - I doubt it, once we knew we were only to use the straight line policy we would have cut cloth accordingly. The only thing we were found guilty of in the arbitration process was not making the footnote describing the amortisation policy clearer. But the arbitration process did conclude that this wasn't done in order to mislead.
I agree that Mel putting us into administration doesn't put him in the best of lights, and he didn't make the stadium sale public knowledge until after the fact, but to say he conned us is a bit over the top in my eyes.

But that is because he is? 
 
Quite literally destroying a club as collateral damage with no regard to its fans and community, in response to a personal vendetta against another egotistical millionaire who happened to call him out in dodgy tax liability selling ffp avoiding practices. 
 
For avoidance of all doubt, Gibson has done this for 2 reasons, a quick cash grab with no due process after backroom deals with the EFL, and to destroy MMS reputation even further to the point he will not be able to enter Derbyshire. 
 
I’d say ‘scum’ is a little light under the circumstances. 

What ? That Boro don’t use smart accountants to work on loopholes or that Boro had a huge fiscal advantage from Parachute payments ? Or that it is the EFL that make rules, dispense penalties for none compliance so if he has a complaint he should take it up with the governing body and sue them ? …. How can those be described as nonsense ? what you really mean is that they are uncomfortable truths that you can’t answer. 
 
As a final shot …. If you think someone nicked your stuff .. do you A) go round and beat them up or …. B) Call the police ? 
Your Chairman has effectively done the former which tells me exactly what he is ! 
 
 

Try and engage and you just take the points out of context. We DO all blame Morris for the dire situation we found ourselves in….but Gibbo is the only reason for our club’s situation not having been resolved. We knew this months ago, despite the multitude of denials. 
You have absolutely no clue or are here to wind people up, people who have collectively supported a family club through generations. 
 
Can someone get rid of this WUM? 
(I hope that level of abuse is allowed moderators) He is only here to gloat over the demise of our club, as he clearly agrees with and blindly follows all the actions of his beloved Gibson, as does the vast majority of his fellow supporters of the pathetic ambulance chasing, hypocritical scummy club. 

@BoroWillI appreciate you coming on here; your position is noted and I acknowledge your partisanship and civility.
But you must accept this has never really been a Derby v Boro matter. It is Morris v Gibson. Morris clearly did Gibson over, it seems regarding Waghorn, who I can assure you girlfriend was really not worth it. Gibson subsequently was determined to create just as much mayhem as he could for Morris, and that served him well (although even without his intervention I have no doubt Morris would have crashed our club into the rocks - something I will never forgive him for). But even with our Club dealt with by the EFL, Morris binned out with £150m+ personal losses, and Administrators fighting to keep us alive, Gibson still persists in nuisance claims, and do you know why, because he is upset Morris still has some control of the football stadium (which annoys me to hell too). Gibson's two open letters seeking information regarding the Stadium and security/loan arrangements are such childlike actions it is beyond me, other than reinforcing my thoughts that Gibson just wants to keep his battle with Morris going just as long as he can (and duck Derby County and their fans if they are collateral damage). It really is that pathetic. You keep supporting your man if you like, but I'm telling you it is not a good look.

But this is his endgame….ultimately, it would be Morris’ fault for putting OUR club into administration. Morris would therefore go down in history as the reason The Rams died. Irrespective of who had their foot on our neck not letting us get up. 
 
If this is something you can not grasp, and you can not see the vindictive nature of your prophet, then I suggest you slither back to your nice safe forum where (because of some nice backroom dealings) you only have to worry about your standard end of season flop. 

But that is because he is? 
 
Quite literally destroying a club as collateral damage with no regard to its fans and community, in response to a personal vendetta against another egotistical millionaire who happened to call him out in dodgy tax liability selling ffp avoiding practices. 
 
For avoidance of all doubt, Gibson has done this for 2 reasons, a quick cash grab with no due process after backroom deals with the EFL, and to destroy MMS reputation even further to the point he will not be able to enter Derbyshire. 
 
I’d say ‘scum’ is a little light under the circumstances. 

When exactly? 2019 when the agreement was made with the EFL? or after? For the sale of the stadium? Or the FFP? It was only in 2021 according to the EFL. 
When did Gibbo serve the legal papers? 
When did the EFL state Derby had to respond? 
I I send you a letter asking for money, for something you think is ridiculous, would you offer to take me to court? No..you’d tell me to serve papers. 
Under UK insolvency law, anything that is not a debt at time of insolvency is not legal. It is only the EFL that say we have to look at it to retain the share. 
Why hasn’t Gibson sought recompense from any of the other rulebreakers from the last 6 years? 
You, are either deluded, or ignorant. 

Cool. We know. 
And THIS is where the animosity towards Boro fans comes from. Because you think we blame Gibson for this. We don't. 
Hearing Boro fans tell us who we blame for what is majorly fecking annoying
Do you have any idea how much has been written about Mel Morris? What's been said about him? 
It's not us deflecting. The issue with Gibson is about him continuing this nonsense since Mel took the the Hills
And I'm yet to see a Boro fan acknowledge this and give a single reason why we should be civil to/about him

When exactly? 2019 when the agreement was made with the EFL? or after? For the sale of the stadium? Or the FFP? It was only in 2021 according to the EFL. 
When did Gibbo serve the legal papers? 
When did the EFL state Derby had to respond? 
I I send you a letter asking for money, for something you think is ridiculous, would you offer to take me to court? No..you’d tell me to serve papers. 
Under UK insolvency law, anything that is not a debt at time of insolvency is not legal. It is only the EFL that say we have to look at it to retain the share. 
Why hasn’t Gibson sought recompense from any of the other rulebreakers from the last 6 years? 
You, are either deluded, or ignorant. 

Again: it is Morris fault that we are in administration. It is very largely Gibson's fault we can't get out, and might face liquidation.
This is not a bad guy/good guy situation. It's just two incredibly rich men showing the world how you kill a football club.

When exactly? 2019 when the agreement was made with the EFL? or after? For the sale of the stadium? Or the FFP? It was only in 2021 according to the EFL. 
When did Gibbo serve the legal papers? 
When did the EFL state Derby had to respond? 
I I send you a letter asking for money, for something you think is ridiculous, would you offer to take me to court? No..you’d tell me to serve papers. 
Under UK insolvency law, anything that is not a debt at time of insolvency is not legal. It is only the EFL that say we have to look at it to retain the share. 
Why hasn’t Gibson sought recompense from any of the other rulebreakers from the last 6 years? 
You, are either deluded, or ignorant. 

Au contraire, having had him represent your club for 36 years after saving you from a far worse situation than our own, I think your judgement of him is probably based on a whole lot of sentimentality and is now bordering on sycophancy, blinding you to his faults, and far more likely to be misguided. But thank you for defending someone who's hypocritically kneeling on the neck of a dying club, stopping them breathing.

But that is because he is? 
 
Quite literally destroying a club as collateral damage with no regard to its fans and community, in response to a personal vendetta against another egotistical millionaire who happened to call him out in dodgy tax liability selling ffp avoiding practices. 
 
For avoidance of all doubt, Gibson has done this for 2 reasons, a quick cash grab with no due process after backroom deals with the EFL, and to destroy MMS reputation even further to the point he will not be able to enter Derbyshire. 
 
I’d say ‘scum’ is a little light under the circumstances. 

Nobody has ever disputed this.
But it is very much arguable that Gibson is preventing us from leaving administration.

I'm so glad our debts aren't as high as £2m, with no points deductions, no 30 month long embargo, no EFL fine and no parasites claiming against my club. We're so fortunate.

Oh that's okay then. We can all have a laugh about it afterwards then. It's been such fun, every day. Thanks.

I think if it came down to the wire he would drop the claim. 

But that is because he is? 
 
Quite literally destroying a club as collateral damage with no regard to its fans and community, in response to a personal vendetta against another egotistical millionaire who happened to call him out in dodgy tax liability selling ffp avoiding practices. 
 
For avoidance of all doubt, Gibson has done this for 2 reasons, a quick cash grab with no due process after backroom deals with the EFL, and to destroy MMS reputation even further to the point he will not be able to enter Derbyshire. 
 
I’d say ‘scum’ is a little light under the circumstances. 

But that is because he is? 
 
Quite literally destroying a club as collateral damage with no regard to its fans and community, in response to a personal vendetta against another egotistical millionaire who happened to call him out in dodgy tax liability selling ffp avoiding practices. 
 
For avoidance of all doubt, Gibson has done this for 2 reasons, a quick cash grab with no due process after backroom deals with the EFL, and to destroy MMS reputation even further to the point he will not be able to enter Derbyshire. 
 
I’d say ‘scum’ is a little light under the circumstances. 

No emotional distress from me btw. Gibson is a scumbag and I welcome the animosity.