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To put in perspective our HMRC debt of £26m, of which some will be paid....yesterday the Government admitted to having lost over £4Billion, that's £4000m to fraud on Covid support grants.
In our 140 year history we have generated £100s Millions of revenue to HMG. We need a bit of slack now...Local MPs, be aware please.

I just can't stomach the idea of Boro or Wycombe getting a penny for their extortion, which is what this is. The fact that EFL are so weak and Lilly livered about this just shows how much they need to be sent to oblivion.

I'm sure they do all believe they are in the right. The point is at the moment we don't have any clarity on what the situation is: what exactly do the administrators want the EFL to do, for example? Why? Is there anything short of that that would achieve a satisfactory result? Is there a reasonable middle ground?  And so on for all the parties. A lot of us on this thread are doing little more than guessing, because we just don't have the information, and we haven't been party to discussions, and we don't know the legal situation, etc etc.
That's part of the reason that you are seeing some people on here blaming the EFL, and some blaming Gibson, and some blaming the administrators, and some blaming Mel, and some blaming Mel's-MP's-son's-fellow-panel-member.
Feels to me like if the MPs could get all these people (okay maybe not the panel member) in a room and get some answers, identify the real obstacles, and start suggesting ways forward, we might at least emerge with a clear picture of who needs to do what, and who is preventing us moving forward, and why.
Are the EFL or Gibson or even our administrators going to listen to a bunch of MPs telling them what to do? Maybe not. But if those MPs can clarify who is holding things up, and what they should be told to do, that would be a huge step forward. It gives all of us - fans, MPs, media figures, even government ministers - something specific to aim for. It allows everyone to apply pressure in the right place.
At the moment the only clear rally cry we all share is "Save Derby County!" And that's great, as far as it goes. But who? And how? It's not pressuring any specific person to take any specific action. It's the kind of thing everyone involved can agree with - even Gibson, I imagine. And that's very dangerous. We could all be shouting "Save Derby County!" as the club gets liquidated.
 

To put in perspective our HMRC debt of £26m, of which some will be paid....yesterday the Government admitted to having lost over £4Billion, that's £4000m to fraud on Covid support grants.
In our 140 year history we have generated £100s Millions of revenue to HMG. We need a bit of slack now...Local MPs, be aware please.

Who is acting in the interest of DCFC in these meetings?
We know that the admins are legally bound to act for creditors
We know the EFL act on behalf of all the other Clubs
The prospective buyers act to get the best deal for themselves
NO ONE ACTS FOR THE CLUB OR SUPPORTERS IN THESE BEHIND DOORS MEETINGS.

Actually lived near Brailsford I understand, just outside.

I just can't stomach the idea of Boro or Wycombe getting a penny for their extortion, which is what this is. The fact that EFL are so weak and Lilly livered about this just shows how much they need to be sent to oblivion.

Because maybe this meeting shouldn't be 'confidential' given its importance on the future of the club. All stakeholders should be represented and that includes the fans. 

I just cannot get my head round "a preferred bidder will be announced imminently" to 5 weeks later needing an extension. The admins are experienced insolvency practitioners. Something changed and we the supporters do not know what, and frankly I think we deserve the truth no matter what it is. I do not trust the EFL one bit and if we were already cut adrift I feel this would be a whole different ball game.

Who is acting in the interest of DCFC in these meetings?
We know that the admins are legally bound to act for creditors
We know the EFL act on behalf of all the other Clubs
The prospective buyers act to get the best deal for themselves
NO ONE ACTS FOR THE CLUB OR SUPPORTERS IN THESE BEHIND DOORS MEETINGS.

Who is acting in the interest of DCFC in these meetings?
We know that the admins are legally bound to act for creditors
We know the EFL act on behalf of all the other Clubs
The prospective buyers act to get the best deal for themselves
NO ONE ACTS FOR THE CLUB OR SUPPORTERS IN THESE BEHIND DOORS MEETINGS.

I just can't stomach the idea of Boro or Wycombe getting a penny for their extortion, which is what this is. The fact that EFL are so weak and Lilly livered about this just shows how much they need to be sent to oblivion.

"Stupid" is the wrong word, but you're right (in my opinion).
Unfortunately, I am only too well aware what true depression, anxiety, and mental health trauma does to a person, albeit only from a second hand perspective.  (I was close enough for it to have a major effect on myself and my life).  It's truly gruesome, and utterly devastating, but I'm glad to say... on a personal and selfish level... that whatever DCFC, Administrators, Football Authorities, and bald and/or curly businessmen can throw at me, won't even come close to that particular experience. 
This particular mind is far too strong, and this particular skin is far too thick, to have any concerns on that score!
 
Stay strong, all.
xxx

I think you’ve echoed what a lot of us are thinking and how we are feeling. 
 
Football and specifically Derby County is a form of escapism for many of us and should be a source of enjoyment and happiness. Attending a match, the buzz of arriving at the ground, the click of the turnstiles, heading up into the stand and seeing the first glimpse of the pitch, then sitting down and watching our beloved club, win lose or draw. 
 
Of late that escapism has recently become second to the very realisation that it could all be taken away from us. 
 
I find myself constantly checking my phone. Checking this thread 3/4 times a minute. Scrolling through to see if there are any updates, thanks @RoyMac5amongst others for keeping on top of twitter etc.
The good thing is that we are all in this together, our partners or nearest and dearest might not fully understand what impact this is having on us but this forum does.
 
Keep sharing and keep posting. This platform will offer all the support that is needed, that is one certainty I am sure of.
 
COYR 

I just can't stomach the idea of Boro or Wycombe getting a penny for their extortion, which is what this is. The fact that EFL are so weak and Lilly livered about this just shows how much they need to be sent to oblivion.

I just can't stomach the idea of Boro or Wycombe getting a penny for their extortion, which is what this is. The fact that EFL are so weak and Lilly livered about this just shows how much they need to be sent to oblivion.

Mr Rick Parry,
 
I'd like to formally invite you to the game on Sunday, on behalf of supporters. KO 1.30. As the current Chair of the EFL I'm sure you can see the importance of this game and of course you also have said you act on behalf of ALL the EFL Clubs which I assume includes DCFC.

I don't mind admitting that this is really starting to have affect on my mental state.
It's becoming tiresome.
I've felt genuinely depressed for days, with nothing at home or work to make me feel down. I have this constant cloudy feeling in my head and I've realised its the bloody football.
I'm on my phone when I should be working, when I should be sleeping. I'm even playing with my son less and less as I'm listening to radio Derby every night or starring at my phone.
I wish I could switch off from it all but I can't.
This isn't a cry for help, just hoping by typing these words I realise how stupid I'm being ?

It’s not being stupid, it’s how most of us feel.

I just can't stomach the idea of Boro or Wycombe getting a penny for their extortion, which is what this is. The fact that EFL are so weak and Lilly livered about this just shows how much they need to be sent to oblivion.

Rick Parry was on 5 Live last week saying that 'the EFL have processes to deal with club disputes', referring to the Boro and Wycombe claims.
We are all guessing at what's really happening and what the order of priorities is but we do know that if the vexatious claims went away, or were classed as non-footballing debts, then we'd be in a better position.
We should encourage the MP's and media to force the EFL to convene a meeting/tribunal (or whatever the process is) in the next week.
If we win and they are dismissed and/or deemed non-footballing debts, then we're over a hurdle.
If we lose and they are deemed footballing debts, we may lose a bidder and ultimately we may get liquidated but..........
......as soon as they are deemed footballing debts, we go after QPR, Villa etc and register those made up figures (£200m?) on our balance sheet. When pressed, they will not dare to legitimise the Boro and Wycombe claims.
We have to bring this one to a head.

Let's be honest. The reason we've been given another 4 weeks is to make sure we can't sign anybody and potentially have to lose more players. The EFL, plus the people making the spurious claims, are terrified to death that we might just gain enough points to avoid relegation this season, despite the 21 points deduction and umpteen transfer embargoes already.

Mr Rick Parry,
 
I'd like to formally invite you to the game on Sunday, on behalf of supporters. KO 1.30. As the current Chair of the EFL I'm sure you can see the importance of this game and of course you also have said you act on behalf of ALL the EFL Clubs which I assume includes DCFC.

“Significant progress” in removing DCFC from the world

Who is acting in the interest of DCFC in these meetings?
We know that the admins are legally bound to act for creditors
We know the EFL act on behalf of all the other Clubs
The prospective buyers act to get the best deal for themselves
NO ONE ACTS FOR THE CLUB OR SUPPORTERS IN THESE BEHIND DOORS MEETINGS.