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3 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Would we not have had to pay him the £2.3m anyway...which would have come out of club coffers?

Quite.

IMO Mel acted like most employers would under the circumstances. And ask yourself this, who has arbitrated on this? yes, the EFL.

8 minutes ago, therams69 said:

3 months ago. 3 months ago. Alot has changed since then. Even today things have changed.

This has already been discussed G Star. David has made reference to it.

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A view point.

It is clear that this is a complicated issue and open to interpretation of complex accountancy practices and confusing rules. An independent tribunal, with some expertise in the field, have studied this and found in the Club's favour. Another group of three independent "experts" look likely to reach the opposite conclusion. This in itself surely shows there is a level of doubt and definitely differing possible interpretations, both of the rules (which clearly lack clarity) and also what is acceptable accountancy practice within those rules.

Surely the doubt involved must be taken into account with the level of punishment? These are not "matters of Fact" they are "matters of opinion". If it was being heard as a criminal case it would not stand a chance of passing the "beyond all reasonable doubt" test. It isn't of course a criminal court case.

All I think we can reasonably hope for is that the punishment "fits the crime" and takes account of the doubt and interpretation issues, rather than the Club and it's supporters being made an example of to satisfy a despotic governing body.

4 minutes ago, Retro_RAM said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11696/12269676/Derby-takeover-ex-real-madrid-president-ramon-calderon-helped-advise-erik-alonso?fbclid=IwAR37goCr7uYlQeFQUqzeSouhMEosY_wE9Ipsmfv4EdscQCdhzhm9UFXmt1U

I personally like the notion of increasing to our foreign scouting network. Our scouting network has been pretty poor even when we had money at the start of Mel's reign the majority went on overhyped, over paid Championship players.

Let's not forgot the wealth of foreign talent in the squad in the late 90s to name a few Stimac, Poom, Baiano Carbonari, Wanchope, Asanović and Eranio and it was this era that brought us our most recent successes and for people younger than 40 (like me) our only successful period.

Not sure many of those were down to scouting. Wanchope came as a result of a video sent to Jim Smith by an agent. Ernie was an established international, as was Stimac and Asanovich. Smith already knew Poom as he had played at Portsmouth.

Surely a scouting network picks up a gem from Senegal or Scotland, a player no one has hardly heard of. AKA Brentford or Leicester with Vardy? Signing internationals hardly needs a scouting network, you need a TV.

Easter Monday 1975. Away to Burnley. For those that were there I need say no more about the significance of the result. A second championship in four years was almost in the bag. 

3 minutes ago, B4ev6is said:

Nah forest to go down

Thats ma boy. 

7 minutes ago, RamNut said:

Most fans think we have 

• a good goalkeeper
• a right back who is better than bogle
• one of the best young left backs around
• matt Clarke back to his PoY best
• a terrific young midfield talent
• another Scottish midfield bryson
• a Polish full international winger
• a gem of a no9
• a good management team
• a production line of academy stars

so why are we getting smacked by Rotherham?

why are we fighting relegation?

 

 

 

Excellent post. A lot of it IMHO is the physicality of our playing staff, lacking stature/strength and to a degree the sheer workrate required for success in todays championship.

Good luck to him. He was a brilliant player for our club. Always amazed me how many couldn't see it.

Absolutely brilliant. Great work Loweman and long overdue congratulations to Jim who was in the team at my very first game, 21 Sept 1968, home to Millwall, 1-0 Derby, Durban the scorer.

It's the only programme in my collection of one!

2 hours ago, Vulcanboy said:

I was fortunate enough to watch our second title win as a youth on the 'pop side' I'll always remember a midweek game towards the end of that season against man city, which we won 2-0 (I think) with Rioch scoring an absolute screamer! The other game that always stands out is our FA Cup quarter final victory over Newcastle...... The goals..... What a game, Charlie George, Kevin Hector, never reach those heights again, I consider myself very fortunate to have witnessed that era........ You Raaaaaaaaams!! 

The Newcastle quarter final in 76 still my favourite of all time. I even made an appearance in the crowd on the highlights. I can see myself as a teenager stood on the Normanton terrace, which was strange for me as was mostly in the Columbo Pop Side.