Ghost of Clough

Revenue - top
Expenditure - 3rd

Top 6 L1 budget in all 6 seasons iirc

One more game hasn’t influenced me further one way or another, especially where it seems that yesterdays victory was in major part due to some individual finishing brilliance from McGoldrick. Still seems an odd appointment to me, but we have another 3 points and we are still competing for a play-off position which is the minimum I expected this season. Hopefully as much as Warne wants to convert a number of our ball players into athletes, some of our ball players can convert Warne into a more rounded coach. Time will tell.

I'm not saying the opposite. I'm telling you the factual maximum number of minutes you have seen Stretton in the first team. 
Is the Beglian 2nd division better than L2? I've never watched football in that league so can only guess at "no".
He isn't too small for a Warne side, as pointed out by others. You're quick to move the goal posts to "Dobbin is faster" and "Ogbene is more experienced".
As I previously stated in a different thread about other academy players, your judgement on youngsters is abysmal and cannot be taken seriously.

Glad to know you've made a judgement on him based on a maximum of 480 minutes of football, in which he scored once and assisted once. 172 minutes were in cup competitions, so unless you were at the games you wouldn't have seen him
There are a lot of people here who will have watched him play 10 times as much football as that.
Then there's his record out on loan:
     3 goals in 173 minutes for Stockport, until we recalled him and he picked up an injury in the first game back.
     2 goals and 1 assist in 449 league minutes for Carlisle (634 mins in all comps)
 
20/21
In the U23s until November and earned a spot in the first team following 8 goals in 8 games, but was still behind Kazim and Waghorn as in the pecking order. Picked up and injury and was out for 3 months, before going out on loan. Recalled due to an injury crisis and lasted 19 minutes before coming off with an injury. Missed the rest of the season.
21/22
Started the season in the first team squad, scoring in his first appearance. Played in 7 of the next 9 games, mostly as a sub. Dropped back down to the U23 when Baldock and Kazim were both fit. Scored 6 in his first 5 U23 games before picking up an injury which kept him out for three months. In his absence, Plange was given a shot in the first team due to all other senior forwards being out injured too. Due to his performances, Plange kept his place in the squad when others were fit.
22/23
Out on loan at Carlisle

Still chaotic. Still no control. Hourihane is definitely the worst tackler I have ever seen.
But, we look much better in front of goal with Collins in the team, and we're winning.

Still chaotic. Still no control. Hourihane is definitely the worst tackler I have ever seen.
But, we look much better in front of goal with Collins in the team, and we're winning.

Liam Delap - Man City (Stoke City on loan)
Emil Riis Jakobsen - Preston
Sven Karic - NK Maribor
Mo Adams - Al-Shabab
Henrik Ojamaa - FC Flora
Charles Vernam - Lincoln City
Seb Thompson - Burnley
Archie Brown - FC Lausanne
Lewis Walker - Gillingham
Andy Dales - Mickleover
Hugo Jinkinson - Coalville Town
Rhys Sharpe - Kettering Town
Mark Dudley - Belper Town
Tom Koblenz - FSV Jagersburg
Pablo Mills - Mickleover
Greg Mills - Stourbridge
Jack Rogers - Ilkeston Town
Alex Babos - Banbury United
Theo Streete - Leamington FC

Still chaotic. Still no control. Hourihane is definitely the worst tackler I have ever seen.
But, we look much better in front of goal with Collins in the team, and we're winning.

Still chaotic. Still no control. Hourihane is definitely the worst tackler I have ever seen.
But, we look much better in front of goal with Collins in the team, and we're winning.

For those suggesting Stearman... he will not play RCB in a back 3 for Derby. He'll either be the RCB in a back 4 or the CB in a back 3. If it's a back 4 he won't be starting, but may in a back 3 with Cashin RCB.
I can't see it being anything other than Smith, Cashin, Forsyth, Roberts today.

For those suggesting Stearman... he will not play RCB in a back 3 for Derby. He'll either be the RCB in a back 4 or the CB in a back 3. If it's a back 4 he won't be starting, but may in a back 3 with Cashin RCB.
I can't see it being anything other than Smith, Cashin, Forsyth, Roberts today.

For those suggesting Stearman... he will not play RCB in a back 3 for Derby. He'll either be the RCB in a back 4 or the CB in a back 3. If it's a back 4 he won't be starting, but may in a back 3 with Cashin RCB.
I can't see it being anything other than Smith, Cashin, Forsyth, Roberts today.

We aren't allowed to be critical of players, manager or even owner decisions? If not, how long are we supposed to wait before we can?
In my opinion, no one should be beyond criticism. In the current situation, that includes the manager who isn't getting as much out of these players as the previous manager and has made several odd comments regarding the players, and the owner who chose to appoint a manager who wants to implement a style not suited to the squad, a decision which will seriously impact other elements of the club which have been a major plus in recent years (academy and fan unity).

We aren't allowed to be critical of players, manager or even owner decisions? If not, how long are we supposed to wait before we can?
In my opinion, no one should be beyond criticism. In the current situation, that includes the manager who isn't getting as much out of these players as the previous manager and has made several odd comments regarding the players, and the owner who chose to appoint a manager who wants to implement a style not suited to the squad, a decision which will seriously impact other elements of the club which have been a major plus in recent years (academy and fan unity).

We aren't allowed to be critical of players, manager or even owner decisions? If not, how long are we supposed to wait before we can?
In my opinion, no one should be beyond criticism. In the current situation, that includes the manager who isn't getting as much out of these players as the previous manager and has made several odd comments regarding the players, and the owner who chose to appoint a manager who wants to implement a style not suited to the squad, a decision which will seriously impact other elements of the club which have been a major plus in recent years (academy and fan unity).

Liam Delap - Man City (Stoke City on loan)
Emil Riis Jakobsen - Preston
Sven Karic - NK Maribor
Mo Adams - Al-Shabab
Henrik Ojamaa - FC Flora
Charles Vernam - Lincoln City
Seb Thompson - Burnley
Archie Brown - FC Lausanne
Lewis Walker - Gillingham
Andy Dales - Mickleover
Hugo Jinkinson - Coalville Town
Rhys Sharpe - Kettering Town
Mark Dudley - Belper Town
Tom Koblenz - FSV Jagersburg
Pablo Mills - Mickleover
Greg Mills - Stourbridge
Jack Rogers - Ilkeston Town
Alex Babos - Banbury United
Theo Streete - Leamington FC

You aren't the first to claim this, but what are you basing it on? Poor results? The majority of the people who don't think Warne should be manager are basing their opinion on much more than results. Style of play, damage to the academy, reducing the chances of keeping our academy graduates, dwindling attendances, the destruction of the feel good factor around the club, etc...

"just came here thinking it would be a nice time getting good pay" implies they are lazy and unprofessional.

"just came here thinking it would be a nice time getting good pay" implies they are lazy and unprofessional.

Becuase there is a clear trend in how a manager has performed after 12 games and how he'll perform in his overall spell in charge. The evidence I've shown proves that.

Becuase there is a clear trend in how a manager has performed after 12 games and how he'll perform in his overall spell in charge. The evidence I've shown proves that.

"just came here thinking it would be a nice time getting good pay" implies they are lazy and unprofessional.

We aren't allowed to be critical of players, manager or even owner decisions? If not, how long are we supposed to wait before we can?
In my opinion, no one should be beyond criticism. In the current situation, that includes the manager who isn't getting as much out of these players as the previous manager and has made several odd comments regarding the players, and the owner who chose to appoint a manager who wants to implement a style not suited to the squad, a decision which will seriously impact other elements of the club which have been a major plus in recent years (academy and fan unity).

3 at the back: 2 CBs and at least 1 wing back
4 at the back: 1 CB, 1 RB, 1 winger
Then it's replacing anyone who leaves on top of those.