bcnram
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51 minutes ago, FindernRam said:
Not sure PW told them to give the ball to the opposition!😉
The instructions to get the ball to the front as quickly as possible, and the ‘don’t be afraid to lose the ball’ inevitably mean losing possession more than retaining it.
Fortunately, our manager appears to have seen the error of his ways, and hopefully starting to act like a proper football manager with his players looking after the ball. -
The criticism was all to do with the horrible football Warne had them playing, the constant giving the ball to the opposition to play with. The last two games have had far more control, and as a result more enjoyable to watch.
I don't expect us to be attacking or keeping the ball for an entire match, and I do enjoy a good defensive display as well, but some of the football we were dishing up was an affront to football.
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It isn’t the most well thought out poll I have seen, a bit daft really.
Totally pleased with 3 points, but we were poor again, really poor - as were Carlisle. -
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I expect positive results with the players he has at his disposal. I want to see much much less of the hopeful balls forward, more passing to each other and retaining the ball. I want to see football and us building for the future, something he hasn’t seemed to ever do previously.
I suspect that it will take the current owner selling the club though. -
What does our manager say to the players, or do with them during the week. This is horrific football.
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That was so good to see the ball mostly played on the grass, what a difference that made. I would think that the players enjoyed it more as well as the supporters. I hope the manager also enjoyed watching it.
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17 hours ago, Tamworthram said:
I highly doubt he considers it a "massive mistake" just yet or is therefore putting the feelers out. I would imagine DC has, even if only in his own mind, set certain triggers at which point he would consider pulling the trigger and none of these are anywhere near being reached yet.
My guess is that promotion (within a timescale that may not align with what us supporters want or expect) is DC's priority rather than style of football at the moment and we'd have to be a lot nearer to a relegation fight for him to consider sacking Warne. Probably not what many would either agree with or want to hear but I reckon that is the reality we perhaps need to come to terms with.
Hmmm! If that was the case (and you are only guessing yourself), I would hope that our current manager was not the only name in front of him. If thoughts of entertaining his 25,000 ish customers is not high up in the chairman’s thoughts, maybe it should be, because what we are seeing is poor disorganised football.
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1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said:
TBH I missed the early stuff but thought that 1st half challenge by Fornah should have been a booking and so a red?
From where I was sitting, he didn’t go through the player but alongside him. I think the ref would have just been giving him a ‘be careful’ talking to.
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3 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said:
I’m sure I’ve posted this before, but the thing for me is that it’s obvious how you turn that Rosenior side into a really good side. There’s a bunch of stuff you need to do like 5% or 10% better than we were doing (move the ball quicker, be more clinical in the final third, cut out a few backwards passes when we’ve already broken the lines etc), but that’s basically it. You don’t need to radically change anything. Obviously actually doing it in practice might be another matter, but it’s clear *what* needs doing.
But as to how you get this bunch of players into a side like Warne’s Rotherham, I just have no clue. We seem a million miles away from it. Barely any of the players, including the ones we’ve signed this season, seem capable of it.
I am sure the players (or majority of them) are very capable. I think they are just confused by what this manager is trying to do. I am of the opinion that the sooner he goes the better it is for the club.
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County 0 - Pompey 1
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2 hours ago, Curtains said:
Do you think Clowes will have to sell eventually to rich investors to achieve that aim or is it possible for him to do it
Yes, definitely.
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2 hours ago, sage said:
Well I'm 54, loved Parky, my favourite film is Kes and I spoke to Dickie Bird 5 days ago.
Does that make you feel better
I said
DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER
No need to shout you young whippersnapper!
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1 hour ago, chadlad said:
…and yet we lost. We also gave away a penalty and had a player sent off because we didn’t have possession of the ball.
Blame the ref all you want, but if you keep the ball it doesn’t happen
Correct! Wildsmith had to come charging out of his area because we were disorganised again after giving the ball away again.
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2 hours ago, ilkleyram said:
I can’t. He gave himself time to think about the decision - which is good - by going over to the lino. In itself that suggests he didn’t have a clear view and therefore couldn’t be certain that Joe had handled the ball and therefore he couldn’t send him off (or give a foul).
The lino had the better angle of sight. If he saw a handball (which clearly he could not have done) then he could have said so when they conferred. What he should have said to the ref was either that he didn’t see it and was looking elsewhere (not unreasonable) or that he saw it clearly and no handball. If he said that he saw it hit Joe’s arm then he was wrong.
As @angieram says, they both guessed. Wrongly. We may still have lost but we also may have won or drawn. Our chances of either of the latter two options were significantly reduced by his decision.
One other minor point. If you look how the ball bounces off and away from Joe it’s clear that it hits a solid part of his body. If it had hit his hand it would more than likely have bounced down given the angle of his arm. The ref should have reflected on that in his decision making - they were fresh out of half time, not tired and should have been well attuned to the game so had no excuse.
In the heat of the moment in real time it looked like it had hit his hand. I would think the conversation with the Lino was more about was it a clear goal scoring opportunity.
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4 minutes ago, DRBee said:
Just because it produce numbers with complicated maths doesn't mean it has any value. I believe it misrepresents a game- for example a moment of brilliance from a goal scorer is undervalued by xg. shots , on and off target is more useful, and in the end the final score is what counts.
Personally I think the best way is to have relied on your own judgment, rather than relying on someone else telling you how good a chance was.
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3 hours ago, kevinhectoring said:
the message is very clear. “Show more character “
I have no problem with the fight they put up. I would rather the message be ‘show more composure and stop giving the ball away needlessly’.
- kevinhectoring and sage
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1Wildsmith 6
34Rooney 6
Bradley 5
35Nelson 7
3Forsyth 7
11Méndez-Laing 6
12Smith 6
6Cashin 6
4Hourihane 6
22Fornah 8
20Elder 6
14Washington 5
Vickers 6
10Waghorn 6
John-Jules 6
Collins. 5
our manager 4 - I am not sure what message he is trying to get over to the team. Problem is, I don’t think the team do either.
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Derby v Cheltenham (A) Match Thread
in Derby County Forum
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Is our manager strong enough to rip into them, or does he still want to be pals with the team.
We look as if we are playing the worst team in the league, but don’t have to put the effort in to beat them.
Second half will be interesting if Mr Warne has had a serious chat.