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    Curtains reacted to sage in Was 4 year contract too long for Paul Warne   
    If you are going to give him a contract you may as well give him a long one, because he isn't getting us promoted until he has completely overhauled the squad and that will take two seasons 
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    Curtains reacted to RoyMac5 in Radio Derby all in for Warne tonight   
    I hate League 1, it's grim isn't it.
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    Curtains reacted to RoyMac5 in Radio Derby all in for Warne tonight   
    How long did we give Pearson? Me I'm really jittery now, he came across well, he's got experience and he talks the talk. But... starting to get a bit worried, no real signs of 'compromise' and some 'odd' comments about quite a few players. #nervous  As others have said this isn't 'siege mentality' 'backs to the wall' Rotherham.
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    Curtains reacted to Bris Vegas in Live football thread.   
    Just saw highlights of the Harry Kane last minute goal against Sporting.
    I don’t understand the uproar. It’s offside.
    Harry Kane is ahead of the ball when it is headed across. It hits a defender on the way but the defender isn’t in control of the ball, so it’s offside.
    VAR ‘sucks the life’ out of the game.
    But scrap VAR and the goal is given. Then everyone complains it was offside.
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    Curtains reacted to Gee SCREAMER !! in Radio Derby all in for Warne tonight   
    Heard that.  Reckons lots of these players are used to doing football at elite level and don't understand this league.  All true- if most of them hadn't spent years in League 1 before and done rather well in it . some with more than 1 team 
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    Curtains reacted to brady1993 in Fitness, Performance and Tactics   
    So 5 league games into Warne's tenure and I think a pattern is emerging. The short version of this Warne isn't managing the fitness levels of the squad very well which when combined with a very narrow tactical outlook is leading to some of the mediocre performances we've been seeing. And there is reason to be concerned that if this isn't adjusted things will go downhill. 
    Tactics
    As everyone knows we've been setting up under Warne with a 352 with an attempt at pressing aggressively and attacking directly. With the two wingbacks being actually wingers. It's not hard to see how setting up like this asks a lot physically of any given player. With the wingbacks so aggressive there is often a lot of space to cover out wide meaning the midfield and the wider centre backs are often having to cover large swaths of ground just to plug gaps. I think a big reason why we've conceded so many penalties is because of how easily we can get stretched.
    Also the midfield are all encouraged to press meaning there is no one to cover so they all have to keep moving or else again gaps appear. Then added on top of all of this is a seeming reluctance to try to keep the ball for any amount of time, even when we are up and even when we are looking gassed. I can remember times even when we've won that we were in a position just to slow the game down and keep the ball to take the sting out of the game only for players to be encouraged to go recklessly forwards.
    What this leads to is almost an exhaustive amount of work than isn't entirely necessary and it's no wonder that frequently gaps starting really appearing in games for us after half time. I think the best example for this is in Warne's first game in charge we were one up and yet we are taking a long throw into the box with all the centre backs up field which is followed by a counter which all of them have to sprint back.
    Fitness
    Its worth noting that we had a short pre season meaning that the players didn't necessarily have the time to do the same amount of fitness work. Combined into this is several players carrying knocks at different stages in pre-season and most of the squad is either on one side or the other of where you'd expect them to be at their fittest from an age perspective. In short our squad isn't the fittest but that's not something you can solve in the short term. It's also exercabated by lack of depth in places. It's something as a manager you should be carefully managing both from a team selection stand point and from a tactical stand point. And yet Warne has often kept players playing well past the point they've looked knackered and players playing physically overdemanding positions are often getting started multiple times in a week. And I think you are seeing the effect this is having. Its no surprise that we've had now 4 injuries in 3 games and it shouldn't be taken lightly.
    Performance
    A more tired player is more likely to get injured. But also a player who is fatigued is going to be worse, they'll suddenly look a yard off the pace or their touch will desert them or they'll seemingly drift by in a game. Being tired affects you mentally as well as physically and I think so-so isn't doing enough can often be because they are knackered out. These things tend to spiral as well because if X is tiring, Y has to work harder to cover which leads to them tiring and so on.
    Our best performances under Warne have come after an international and after a full week off. Whilst all of our performances where we've played Tuesday-Saturday have been mediocre at best. This isn't a coincidence, fatigue is leading to a drop off in performance levels. It's concerning that Warne is saying that we just aren't working hard enough because it means he's likely missing the forest for the trees. 
    Going Forwards
    We are currently in a very congested run of fixtures with another 5 games in the next 14 days. Thats a tough run physically on any squad. If things go they way they've been so far I think we will so another couple players pick up injuries and performances steadily get worse. The tactics and the management of players are just causing to much fatigue to build in a squad ill-equipped for it. And it's increasingly looking like Warne with his tactical rigidity and his focus on not working hard enough in his recent interview either doesn't seem where the issues is stemming from or doesn't have a solution.
    After all if your only tool is a hammer every problem is a nail.
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    Curtains got a reaction from Dcfcsr92 in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    I’ve not lost faith in Warne by any means he’s still adapting himself to the job . Derby is a big club and a big job. 
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    Curtains got a reaction from angieram in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    Yes I went .
    City were class on the ball and the guy who scored a hat trick was lightning fast .
    Could you image Chester keeping up with him or Smith for that matter 
      
    Odura will be very good as will Rooney .
    You have to give players a chance .
     
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    Curtains reacted to Van der MoodHoover in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    He's got no chance then....?
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    Curtains reacted to RadioactiveWaste in Radio Derby all in for Warne tonight   
    So, radio Derby are under his mystical spell?
    I'm not anti-warne at all, but, he wasn't inheriting a team in bad state, he freely said as much when he came in.
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    Curtains got a reaction from RadioactiveWaste in Radio Derby all in for Warne tonight   
    Liam Rosenior hangover according to Nick Webster. 
     
    Really !
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    Curtains got a reaction from Kathcairns in Is this forum now counter-productive?   
    Counter productive .
    Never it’s a brilliant forum 
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    Curtains got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    All teams seem to look good against Warnes 3 at the back tactics 
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    Curtains got a reaction from Norman in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    Good old Warne. 
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    Curtains got a reaction from alram in Was 4 year contract too long for Paul Warne   
    Have the club made the same mistake again ! 
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    Curtains got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    I totally disagree with Warne on this .
    Players performances get better when they play with better players .
     
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    Curtains got a reaction from kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    I’ve not lost faith in Warne by any means he’s still adapting himself to the job . Derby is a big club and a big job. 
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    Curtains reacted to duncanjwitham in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    The problem Bird was having under Rosenior was the lack of passing options in front of him.  Last season he had Ravel Morrison as a number 9 demanding the ball, Plange and Kazim dropping off the front showing for the ball, Knight drifting in from out wide, and even Lawrence showing for it at times. This season, Collins stands in the 6 yard box, Hourihane is too static and everyone else (NML, Dobbin, Osula, Bakhuizen etc) is wanting to make runs in behind.  McGoldrick is the only forward player we have that shows for the ball and wants it into feet, and he's been injured a lot.  So Bird picks up the ball and can either thread a perfect through ball for the likes of Dobbin, or safely play it sideways.  And that's just got even worse under Warne, because we spend half the time lumping it over Birds head as well.
    For all the people that said Will Hughes never does anything, the team (certainly under Rosenior anyway) is what a team without someone like Will Hughes doing his stuff looks like.  The stuff Hughes did was busting a gut to get into space at all times, then just get it and move it on quickly (rinse and repeat).  We have no one doing that - Bird should be picking the ball up, playing a ball 5/10 yards forward to that guy, and then Bird can advance and get it back again, but he's now 20 yards further up the pitch and those through balls to Dobbin etc are suddenly a lot more playable.  
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    Curtains got a reaction from angieram in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    It takes time if the system is not fitting the players .
    4-4-2 or 4-3-3 should be used not this stupid 3-5-2
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    Curtains reacted to RoyMac5 in Is Paul Warne the next Nigel Pearson?   
    Maybe if he'd got the ball further up the pitch rather than having to start from way in our half - how much running can he do?! By the time we'd put a vague fullback on things had already gone Pete Tong.
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    Curtains reacted to TomTom92 in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    3-5-2 does need binning off for now. 
    For LWB we have: Forsyth (too slow), Roberts (Too defensive), Barkhuizen (Too attacking), Sibley (Too attacking)
    For RWB we have: NML (Too attacking), Smith (could work), Knight (could work but he's one of our better central midfielders, Odurah (Too inexperienced).
    As soon as we go to 4 at the back we have genuine leftback options and okyish rightback options. I like Warne and maybe he feels like his teams can't do what he wants with a back 4 but for the sake of between now and January I think he needs to adapt.  
     
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    Curtains reacted to Dcfcsr92 in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    I totally agree we have to play to what suits our players, hopefully we will see and improvement once collins is back again
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    Curtains reacted to RoyMac5 in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    He wasn't proactive though, just reactive. Why Smith at RB? That unbalanced midfield even more.
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    Curtains got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Derby County v Exeter City Tuesday 25 October   
    It takes time if the system is not fitting the players .
    4-4-2 or 4-3-3 should be used not this stupid 3-5-2
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