NottsRam77

Id argue none of them are good enough for a serious championship side
foz.. love him.. bit part sure, but wouldnt want to rely on him over a season. Sibley … unpopular opinion im sure but id be worried about him against a semi decent champ winger, plus positionally he still has a lot to learn. But he is still young and learning himself and the role
elder.. meh… again wouldnt want to rely on him.
 
just depends on budget really in an ideal world id much rather see us with a proper wide outlet with a bit of an engine on them.
 
but lets see what happens  

Rotherham you say.
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God that side was something else 
and that chip
made .. to .. measure 
pure class 

God that side was something else 
and that chip
made .. to .. measure 
pure class 

Derby 3 Everton 2. Goddard chipped Southall with Bobby Robson watching on.
Why he then didn't get a call up after that wonder-goal, I'll never know

I think thats warnes strength tbh , coaching, man management getting the best out of players
look at didzy last year.. best career scoring season ever at the age he was.
nelson… i wager thats one of his best seasons to boot. 
 
cashin… looks a bloody star destined for the prem tbh.
collins, kept out the side for large chunks last year cos of didzys form but he still managed to squeez another what 17-18 goals out of a guy at the tail end of his career.
nml… again, probably one of his best or most productive seasons 
it aint by chance 

I think we give him time in the same way as if he was a new manager.
this is a new era for the club now, first time in what 2 years plus that we havent operated under an embargo or a strict business plan.
a lot of players still here were signed at the v end of a transfer window where were still waiting to find out if we have a club.
there will be a lot of changes due to out of contracts and quite simply a step up in league quality.
so as i said at the start of this season, we … as a fanbase would be best placed to exercise patience … not go off on one after 6 games, 12 games or even before xmas.
if there is wholesale changes no matter who u are it takes time for those players to gel and hit a rhythm… hopefully people will have seen this last year and will be more prepared to exercise some retraint be calling for the manager to go or slashing wrists after 30 minutes of the first home game that doesnt go our way 

I think thats warnes strength tbh , coaching, man management getting the best out of players
look at didzy last year.. best career scoring season ever at the age he was.
nelson… i wager thats one of his best seasons to boot. 
 
cashin… looks a bloody star destined for the prem tbh.
collins, kept out the side for large chunks last year cos of didzys form but he still managed to squeez another what 17-18 goals out of a guy at the tail end of his career.
nml… again, probably one of his best or most productive seasons 
it aint by chance 

I think thats warnes strength tbh , coaching, man management getting the best out of players
look at didzy last year.. best career scoring season ever at the age he was.
nelson… i wager thats one of his best seasons to boot. 
 
cashin… looks a bloody star destined for the prem tbh.
collins, kept out the side for large chunks last year cos of didzys form but he still managed to squeez another what 17-18 goals out of a guy at the tail end of his career.
nml… again, probably one of his best or most productive seasons 
it aint by chance 

I think thats warnes strength tbh , coaching, man management getting the best out of players
look at didzy last year.. best career scoring season ever at the age he was.
nelson… i wager thats one of his best seasons to boot. 
 
cashin… looks a bloody star destined for the prem tbh.
collins, kept out the side for large chunks last year cos of didzys form but he still managed to squeez another what 17-18 goals out of a guy at the tail end of his career.
nml… again, probably one of his best or most productive seasons 
it aint by chance 

I think thats warnes strength tbh , coaching, man management getting the best out of players
look at didzy last year.. best career scoring season ever at the age he was.
nelson… i wager thats one of his best seasons to boot. 
 
cashin… looks a bloody star destined for the prem tbh.
collins, kept out the side for large chunks last year cos of didzys form but he still managed to squeez another what 17-18 goals out of a guy at the tail end of his career.
nml… again, probably one of his best or most productive seasons 
it aint by chance 

I think thats warnes strength tbh , coaching, man management getting the best out of players
look at didzy last year.. best career scoring season ever at the age he was.
nelson… i wager thats one of his best seasons to boot. 
 
cashin… looks a bloody star destined for the prem tbh.
collins, kept out the side for large chunks last year cos of didzys form but he still managed to squeez another what 17-18 goals out of a guy at the tail end of his career.
nml… again, probably one of his best or most productive seasons 
it aint by chance 

I think thats warnes strength tbh , coaching, man management getting the best out of players
look at didzy last year.. best career scoring season ever at the age he was.
nelson… i wager thats one of his best seasons to boot. 
 
cashin… looks a bloody star destined for the prem tbh.
collins, kept out the side for large chunks last year cos of didzys form but he still managed to squeez another what 17-18 goals out of a guy at the tail end of his career.
nml… again, probably one of his best or most productive seasons 
it aint by chance 

People will get bogged down with individuals, when we have to think about the team as a whole.
We don’t necessarily need 11 outstanding individuals to prosper, but we do need individuals that complement the players around them and make the sum of the parts that much better.
As mentioned before, look at the current Ipswich squad. On an individual basis, very few of them if any would have been considered a top Championship player last summer and probably still aren’t now.
However with good coaching and man-management, as a unit, they look fantastic and have carried confidence and momentum through into this season and they are very much deserving of their place in the promotion picture.
The beauty of next season is everyone starts on zero and if we start our preparations today, we have a head start on over a third of the division.

Couldnt agree more, great example 

Agree completely
look at that leicester side that won the title 
robert huth, marc albrighto… danny simpson was it (someone simpson) all total cast offs and ud never in a million years have them as title winning players but they played a system that suited them to a tee 
 

I think we give him time in the same way as if he was a new manager.
this is a new era for the club now, first time in what 2 years plus that we havent operated under an embargo or a strict business plan.
a lot of players still here were signed at the v end of a transfer window where were still waiting to find out if we have a club.
there will be a lot of changes due to out of contracts and quite simply a step up in league quality.
so as i said at the start of this season, we … as a fanbase would be best placed to exercise patience … not go off on one after 6 games, 12 games or even before xmas.
if there is wholesale changes no matter who u are it takes time for those players to gel and hit a rhythm… hopefully people will have seen this last year and will be more prepared to exercise some retraint be calling for the manager to go or slashing wrists after 30 minutes of the first home game that doesnt go our way 

There's so many you can name where you watch them play for years and think "he's bang average"
And then he joins a side, plays under a manager whose system just suits him perfectly, and wow! Whole new player.
How many of ours players completely transformed under McClaren? 
I think Ebou just works here. But, as the pundits said on sportscene last night, Ebou needs to have a controller next to him.
Ebou can disrupt the opposition and get us the ball back, but he's going to need someone who can pass the ball and drive forward with it next to him. 

I find some of this debate a bit demeaning to PW. This is the guy who negotiated himself a 4 year contract with a very clever business man! He then took over the football at a club that was almost dead, with very limited resource and in 2 seasons got us up.
Look at that record as an unbiased outsider and you see a very sharp cookie.
I'm sure if he wants an extension he will know just when to ask, equally DC will offer one when the time is right.

Best example of this in my opinion was Geraint Williams. 
He was just a bit better than the opposing midfielders when we played bottom of the table 3rd division teams. 
He was just a bit better than the opposing midfielders when we played top of the table 3rd division teams. 
He was just a bit better than the opposing midfielders when we played 2nd division teams. 
And then he was just a bit better than the opposing midfielders when we made it to the top flight and played 1st division teams. 
He never appeared truly a class above the level he was playing at, yet he clearly was. 

I think we give him time in the same way as if he was a new manager.
this is a new era for the club now, first time in what 2 years plus that we havent operated under an embargo or a strict business plan.
a lot of players still here were signed at the v end of a transfer window where were still waiting to find out if we have a club.
there will be a lot of changes due to out of contracts and quite simply a step up in league quality.
so as i said at the start of this season, we … as a fanbase would be best placed to exercise patience … not go off on one after 6 games, 12 games or even before xmas.
if there is wholesale changes no matter who u are it takes time for those players to gel and hit a rhythm… hopefully people will have seen this last year and will be more prepared to exercise some retraint be calling for the manager to go or slashing wrists after 30 minutes of the first home game that doesnt go our way 

Great post 👏🏻👏🏻

I would have said the same about the likes of Sam Morsy, but he's flying high at the top of with Ipswich!

Personally I would think around Christmas time would be about right for considering whether contract extensions are in order both for the club and for warne , it’s easy to forget that we as a club might not meet his ambition s in terms of being able to get the players he wants to give him a real shot at seeing how far he can go , anybody looking at his record over the last few years can see there’s obviously something there ,
the last two seasons have not really been about building anything other than a culture and spirit of togetherness amongst a squad and the club and the value of that should not be underestimated, the job was to get promoted asap , the other parts of the building job starts now and is shared between warne , scouting/recruitment staff and the club , I think this is where a lot of disagreement on this forum has come from ,
I see no reason why warne can’t thrive at championship level given the right backing and I hope he does , he deserves it far more than a lampard or Rooney trading on they’re names as top players 

No names, but some of the comments in the "Warne Out Out" thread are just embarrassing.
 
 
 
 
 
 
That's just from the first couple of pages. No further comment from me required.