sage Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Curtains said: I don’t accept that Who was the fit alternative right back we had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Kokosnuss said: You could say that Barkhuizen and NML aren't wing backs and are being played out of position. Against a team who attack us down the wings will they be good enough defensively? NML has shown himself to be dangerous when given the ball in the box, is his new role going to get the best out of him? Bird's rejuvenation... again it's one game. Has he never had a good game going forward before, never got an assist or a goal? There was that cracker in the cup this season, albeit against weak opposition. I think people just need to hold their horses a bit. Going all-in on the praise after a single game, setting your stall out so early is never a great idea when assessing a new manager but it already feels like there's a bit of a 'Cult of Warne' going on. Bird got a very similar assist versus Plymouth (although was a bit crap otherwise). I nearly posted before the game about how obvious it was going to be that we’d score and possibly win and all of the “narrative” would be about how Warne has got us firing away from home. Despite as pointed out the performance was barely different to Charlton or Fleetwood and the only difference was a slice of luck. I don’t mind Warne, I find myself warming to him and I’m a bit more comfortable with him now I don’t feel he’s been brought in as a promotion or bust type manager. But it’s all very predictable. At least by stalls being put out so early, stubbornness will stop the same names starting to put pressure on when we lose a couple of games, which we will. i-Ram, Rev, angieram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, sage said: Who was the fit alternative right back we had? The lad from Man City. Played great against WBA https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62171577.amp Edited October 3, 2022 by Curtains Added Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Curtains said: The lad from Man City. Played great against WBA He wasn't deemed experienced enough. With good cause Ii might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, sage said: He wasn't deemed experienced enough. With good cause Ii might add. He was good enough but not for Liam He could have put Jake Rooney RB as alternative. He seemed to have a project to prove Knight was a RB which cost the team badly in midfield. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Curtains said: The lad from Man City. Played great against WBA https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62171577.amp Yes he did but struggled quite badly at Mansfield. I think his time will come and maybe even this season but not just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Churlish churlish churlish its definitely one of those words you only have to repeat twice before you wonder whether it exists and completely forget what it means. You seem to have it's meaning. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Brailsford Ram said: Yes he did but struggled quite badly at Mansfield. I think his time will come and maybe even this season but not just yet. Well people are not sure about Chester but I think he’s fine The most imperative thing was IMO to get Knight in midfield. Basic error by Liam in my eyes. I still don’t understand why peopl think interim was not a holding manager role. Clowes obviously wanted his own man As for Rosenior he’s a really likeable guy. Not my decision to change Manager by the way. Rammy03 and Derby4Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, nottingram said: ...I don’t mind Warne, I find myself warming to him and I’m a bit more comfortable with him now I don’t feel he’s been brought in as a promotion or bust type manager. But it’s all very predictable. At least by stalls being put out so early, stubbornness will stop the same names starting to put pressure on when we lose a couple of games, which we will. Maybe those who can predict how fans ought or ought not behave should buy a lottery ticket they are so convinced by what they say! ? If you can't already see a difference between the two managers then fair enough. But those of us who think we can and have a preference are allowed to comment as such, thanks. nottingram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Maybe those who can predict how fans ought or ought not behave should buy a lottery ticket they are so convinced by what they say! ? If you can't already see a difference between the two managers then fair enough. But those of us who think we can and have a preference are allowed to comment as such, thanks. If the lottery was as predictable as you I’d win it every week i-Ram, Comrade 86 and LazloW 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) Edit Edited October 3, 2022 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Curtains said: He was good enough but not for Liam He could have put Jake Rooney RB as alternative. He seemed to have a project to prove Knight was a RB which cost the team badly in midfield. He isn't good enough yet. I like Rooney but I'm not sure how he would have fitted in to that style of play. How well has Knight played in midfield? Better than he did at RB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Curtains said: If you remember I was banging on about wingers doing more defensively which is what Liam failed to realise especially against Plymouth in which he completely cocked up his substitutions I don't remember tbh, apologies. I'm not sure what it is you think he did wrong, exactly, with the options available but even so... ...that'll be top of the table Plymouth, full of energy with a younger squad, a full pre-season behind them with a cohesive team in the form of its life, favourites-to-win-the-league-Ipswich-beating Plymouth, against the team put together in the manner ours was, with the age balance we've got, which had already been dealt a couple of injury blows and was, I'll say again, pretty fatigued by this point. I think we simply lost to a better team who's strengths happened to directly exploit our weaknesses. It's a decent example of just how quickly the overall picture was forgotten and how little patience and understanding was ever really in place though. Edited October 3, 2022 by Kokosnuss angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, sage said: He isn't good enough yet. I like Rooney but I'm not sure how he would have fitted in to that style of play. How well has Knight played in midfield? Better than he did at RB? Would you like to do a job you hated ! PS It’s all about team blend and I saw enough against Wycombe to remember. His whole career has been as a midfielder so why experiment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: You seem to have it's meaning. Let me try. It would be churlish to ask why you have included an apostrophe angieram and ck- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kokosnuss said: I don't remember tbh, apologies. I'm not sure what it is you think he did wrong, exactly, with the options available but even so... ...that'll be top of the table Plymouth, full of energy with a younger squad, a full pre-season behind them with a cohesive team in the form of its life, favourites-to-win-the-league-Ipswich-beating Plymouth, against the team put together in the manner ours was, with the age balance we've got, which had already been dealt a couple of injury blows and was, I'll say again, pretty fatigued by this point. It's a great example of just how quickly the overall picture was forgotten and how little patience and understanding was ever really in place. Fair enough it’s all about opinions. But you were harsh on posters who want to think PW improvements have not helped to get an away goal and away win the first in 5. Personally I’m tired of defending Clowes for changing manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Curtains said: Would you like to do a job you hated ! PS It’s all about team blend and I saw enough against Wycombe to remember. His whole career has been as a midfielder so why experiment! I agree with your first sentence but how do you know Knight hated it? Has he said as much? Whereas NML is on record as saying he didn't enjoy playing wingback yet Warne played him there on Saturday. What's the difference? Knight has played well at full back, NML played well at wingback on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, angieram said: I agree with your first sentence but how do you know Knight hated it? Has he said as much? Whereas NML is on record as saying he didn't enjoy playing wingback yet Warne played him there on Saturday. What's the difference? Knight has played well at full back, NML played well at wingback on Saturday. Knight told his International Manager angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Let me try. It would be churlish to ask why you have included an apostrophe Nope. Keep trying its your thing. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, angieram said: I agree with your first sentence but how do you know Knight hated it? Has he said as much? Whereas NML is on record as saying he didn't enjoy playing wingback yet Warne played him there on Saturday. What's the difference? Knight has played well at full back, NML played well at wingback on Saturday. Not you as well Angie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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