Comrade 86 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Wayne Rooney England , I know whilst not playing for us but very high profile and world wide known Of course, but he hasn't even used that qualification in the post I quoted, instead he's flat out stated no internationals since 1999, despite there having been literally dozens of them! Mind boggling. Reggie Greenwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 56 minutes ago, Comrade 86 said: Fornah - Sierra Leone Hourihane - Rep. of Ireland Elder - Australia Forsyth - Scotland Collins - Rep. of Ireland Adams - Gambia Mendez-Laing - Guatemala Nyambe - Namibia There's probably more that I've missed, but how could a self-professed football expert not know that on occasions as recently as a few months back, more than half of our starting 11 were current, or ex-internationals? I know Mexico has it's issues, but surely a 25 year internet outage isn't one of them! How could you forget to memtion Claude Davis, Mile Sterjovski and Andrejs Perepļotkins...? Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 8 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: How could you forget to memtion Claude Davis, Mile Sterjovski and Andrejs Perepļotkins...? Still trying to forget them Ghost! Ghost of Clough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Wayne Rooney England , I know whilst not playing for us but very high profile and world wide known Villarreal weren’t in for him though. ‘Cos if they were…… Jourdan, Archied and Reggie Greenwood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, Comrade 86 said: Fornah - Sierra Leone Hourihane - Rep. of Ireland Elder - Australia Forsyth - Scotland Collins - Rep. of Ireland Adams - Gambia Mendez-Laing - Guatemala Nyambe - Namibia There's probably more that I've missed, but how could a self-professed football expert not know that on occasions as recently as a few months back, more than half of our starting 11 were current, or ex-internationals? I know Mexico has its issues, but surely a 25 year internet outage isn't one of them! Off the top of my head over the last few years we’ve also had; Jason Knight - Republic of Ireland Richard Keogh - Republic of Ireland Alex Pearce - Republic of Ireland Kamil Jozwiak - Poland Kristian Bielik - Poland Tom Lawrence - Wales Joe Ledley - Wales Harry Wilson - Wales (when on loan) Mason Mount - England (when on loan) Conor Washington - Northern Ireland but yeah….no international players since Stimac and Wanchope in the mid to late 90s 🙄 EDIT - just thought, Rasiak was a Poland international too wasn’t he? Edited May 28 by Caerphilly Ram Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 6 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Off the top of my head over the last few years we’ve also had; Jason Knight - Republic of Ireland Richard Keogh - Republic of Ireland Alex Pearce - Republic of Ireland Kamil Jozwiak - Poland Kristian Bielik - Poland Tom Lawrence - Wales Joe Ledley - Wales Harry Wilson - Wales (when on loan) Mason Mount - England (when on loan) Conor Washington - Northern Ireland but yeah….no international players since Stimac and Wanchope in the mid to late 90s 🙄 EDIT - just thought, Rasiak was a Poland international too wasn’t he? Seth Johnson didn't leave until after Stimac and Wanchope too IIRC, but he probably doesn't count as an international as he only played for England 😂 Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, Comrade 86 said: Fornah - Sierra Leone Hourihane - Rep. of Ireland Elder - Australia Forsyth - Scotland Collins - Rep. of Ireland Adams - Gambia Mendez-Laing - Guatemala Nyambe - Namibia There's probably more that I've missed, but how could a self-professed football expert not know that on occasions as recently as a few months back, more than half of our starting 11 were current, or ex-internationals? I know Mexico has it's issues, but surely a 25 year internet outage isn't one of them! Yes I’m sure those countries are going to set up exclusive broadcasting deals to show games of Derby County because of James Collins and Nathaniel Medez Lang. Like I said, elite players playing for big clubs gets wider recognition. Mexico had ESPN broadcasting deals to follow the likes Gimenez. These clubs grow their reputation by having star players of those nations playing for them. Man Utd signed players like Chicharito, Kagawa and J Sung Park largely because of the audience they bring. Derby aren’t a big club outside of Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 40 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Off the top of my head over the last few years we’ve also had; Jason Knight - Republic of Ireland Richard Keogh - Republic of Ireland Alex Pearce - Republic of Ireland Kamil Jozwiak - Poland Kristian Bielik - Poland Tom Lawrence - Wales Joe Ledley - Wales Harry Wilson - Wales (when on loan) Mason Mount - England (when on loan) Conor Washington - Northern Ireland but yeah….no international players since Stimac and Wanchope in the mid to late 90s 🙄 EDIT - just thought, Rasiak was a Poland international too wasn’t he? How many of these are international stars who would attract a following? How many of these are regulars for a club playing European football? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Just now, Bris Vegas said: Yes I’m sure those countries are going to set up exclusive broadcasting deals to show games of Derby County because of James Collins and Nathaniel Medez Lang. Like I said, elite players playing for big clubs gets wider recognition. Mexico had ESPN broadcasting deals to follow the likes Gimenez. These clubs grow their reputation by having star players of those nations playing for them. Man Utd signed players like Chicharito, Kagawa and J Sung Park largely because of the audience they bring. Derby aren’t a big club outside of Derby. You said we'd had no internationals and that's the quote I used and responded to. It's not my fault you don't know your arse from your elbow so don't take it out on me 😉 Caerphilly Ram, Reggie Greenwood, Crewton and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: How many of these are international stars who would attract a following? How many of these are regulars for a club playing European football? Mason Mount , Manchester United. Tom Lawrence , Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, Foreveram said: Mason Mount , Manchester United. Tom Lawrence , Rangers. Mason Mount was on loan, Tom Lawrence is an average footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 hours ago, Comrade 86 said: You said we'd had no internationals and that's the quote I used and responded to. It's not my fault you don't know your arse from your elbow so don't take it out on me 😉 It was obvious what I meant, and an insignificant part of the debate. How does having James Collins make us a big club? It doesn’t. Having elite internationals do though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 4 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: It was obvious what I meant, and an insignificant part of the debate. How does having James Collins make us a big club? It doesn’t. Having elite internationals do though. Yawn Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 How could you forget CONOR SAMMON! Villarreal don't even have regional support. The only time they get close to filling their 23,000 capacity stadium is when they play Real Madrid or Barcelona. We filled ours numerous times, against the likes of Oxford and Carlisle IN THE 3RD TIER. Why do you reckon a "world famous" club only averages 16,000 at home? Are the tickets too expensive? Or are they simply neither would famous nor a "big" club? Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Leeds Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 8 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Yes I’m sure those countries are going to set up exclusive broadcasting deals to show games of Derby County because of James Collins and Nathaniel Medez Lang. Like I said, elite players playing for big clubs gets wider recognition. Mexico had ESPN broadcasting deals to follow the likes Gimenez. These clubs grow their reputation by having star players of those nations playing for them. Man Utd signed players like Chicharito, Kagawa and J Sung Park largely because of the audience they bring. Derby aren’t a big club outside of Derby. Yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 I’m wondering if someone has taken up a job with Villarreal in the pr department tasked with raising club profile with commission paid for every mention of the club they can generate on social media platforms,,,,, ooops ive bloody posted the name and added to the Kerr ching Comrade 86, jimtastic56, Crewton and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 5 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Mason Mount was on loan, Tom Lawrence is an average footballer. Whether Tom is average is irrelevant. He played for Wales when with Derby so is an international footballer. Here's another international who played for us post 1999... Branko Strupar. The list is long. Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Of course a certain mr lampard managed us too Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Caerphilly Ram Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 9 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: How many of these are international stars who would attract a following? How many of these are regulars for a club playing European football? I love how much you’ll move the goalposts to die on any particular hill you created for yourself. You said we’ve had no international players since Stimac and Wanchope, that’s the statement you made, you didn’t qualify it further with any additional conditions around those stars having a “following”. I still agree with you that Villarreal and West Ham are currently bigger clubs than Derby, I just think the way you’re qualifying your opinion on it is questionable and smacks once more of you parading your opinion as superior to anyone else Reggie Greenwood, Ghost of Clough, Wolfie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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