Nuwtfly Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Who we thinking is next? Hoping for Ryan but wouldn't be surprised if it's Hladky seeing as @SECornerRAMhas been pretty spot on so far. Then a bit more work needs doing through the middle. x2 centre-halves. x2 central midfielders (we have lost Hourihane, Adams, Bird and Smith and only signed one so far, depending on how you view Osborn). And I think 1 or 2 more attacking players. A forward and a wide-man, perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, Nuwtfly said: Hoping for Ryan but wouldn't be surprised if it's Hladky seeing as @SECornerRAMhas been pretty spot on so far. Then a bit more work needs doing through the middle. x2 centre-halves. x2 central midfielders (we have lost Hourihane, Adams, Bird and Smith and only signed one so far, depending on how you view Osborn). And I think 1 or 2 more attacking players. A forward and a wide-man, perhaps. Don’t know if we need 2 centre halves. Bradley, Nelson, Cashin, Rooney, Forsyth. With Elder, Nyambe and even Robinson able to play there if needed in a back three. My dream window is 1 goalie + maybe an experienced 3rd choice for a year 1 centre back 3 more centre mids, 1 being a defensive midfielder, one box to box and a 10 who can also play wide. 1 Striker, a big man who can play alongside Yates in a two. Sell or Loan Washington and Fornah. Loan out Robinson and Dajaune. nogbad van 50, DCFC1388 and EnigmaRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Think we still need 2 midfielders 1 Striker 1 CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Hoping for Ryan but wouldn't be surprised if it's Hladky seeing as @SECornerRAMhas been pretty spot on so far. Then a bit more work needs doing through the middle. x2 centre-halves. x2 central midfielders (we have lost Hourihane, Adams, Bird and Smith and only signed one so far, depending on how you view Osborn). And I think 1 or 2 more attacking players. A forward and a wide-man, perhaps. What’s your thinking behind 2 centre-halves? I’d have thought with the options we currently have (Nelson, Cashin, Bradley, Forsyth, Rooney, Nyambe) 1 more would be enough to improve the options and provide competition/cover if none of them move on. DISCLAIMER - just saw 2 people reply with similar comments, this is meant as a discussion point and not a pile on! 😁 Edited July 10 by Caerphilly Ram Don’t want to appear to be piling onto anyone Ram1988 and Eoghan1884 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 4 minutes ago, Eoghan1884 said: Don’t know if we need 2 centre halves. Bradley, Nelson, Cashin, Rooney, Forsyth. With Elder, Nyambe and even Robinson able to play there if needed in a back three. My dream window is 1 goalie + maybe an experienced 3rd choice for a year 1 centre back 3 more centre mids, 1 being a defensive midfielder, one box to box and a 10 who can also play wide. 1 Striker, a big man who can play alongside Yates in a two. Sell or Loan Washington and Fornah. Loan out Robinson and Dajaune. Some semi realistic names for what I mentioned. Hladky Souttar Ebou, Hinshelwood (loan), Karamoko Dembele Theo Bair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: What’s your thinking behind 2 centre-halves? I’d have thought with the options we currently have (Nelson, Cashin, Bradley, Forsyth, Rooney, Nyambe) 1 more would be enough to improve the options and provide competition/cover if none of them move on. DISCLAIMER - just saw 2 people reply with similar comments, this is meant as a discussion point and not a pile on! 😁 I'll reply to yours but in response to all: My thinking behind x2 centre-halves is as follows - With Cashin I don't see a problem. Nelson had a fantastic year last season but struggled at Cardiff and Blackpool when last in the Championship. There's no guarantee his performances will drop but we have to accept that the opposition will be harder. Bradley...the case is out. Nyambe I'm not convinced is totally comfortable in that position. As for Craig Forsyth...if he is going to start for us in this division we won't be in it for very long. A little harsh maybe, but Warne said he'd need to be ruthless with his recruitment. I don't want to see us go straight back down to League One and a back three of Cashin-Nelson-Bradley wouldn't fill me with confidence. Edited July 10 by Nuwtfly May Contain Nuts, Eoghan1884, Caerphilly Ram and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 9 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Hoping for Ryan but wouldn't be surprised if it's Hladky seeing as @SECornerRAMhas been pretty spot on so far. Then a bit more work needs doing through the middle. x2 centre-halves. x2 central midfielders (we have lost Hourihane, Adams, Bird and Smith and only signed one so far, depending on how you view Osborn). And I think 1 or 2 more attacking players. A forward and a wide-man, perhaps. We'll only sign 2 CBs if Cashin goes. 3x CMs, 1x #10 (AM / W), 1x CF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: We'll only sign 2 CBs if Cashin goes. 3x CMs, 1x #10 (AM / W), 1x CF Are you on the recruitment team? 😅 TF Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 We need a keeper, Adams and another striker ( 3 in all ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 23 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Hoping for Ryan but wouldn't be surprised if it's Hladky seeing as @SECornerRAMhas been pretty spot on so far. Then a bit more work needs doing through the middle. x2 centre-halves. x2 central midfielders (we have lost Hourihane, Adams, Bird and Smith and only signed one so far, depending on how you view Osborn). And I think 1 or 2 more attacking players. A forward and a wide-man, perhaps. Yeah possibly. To be honest, I would be happy with any one of those keepers, but like you my preference would be Ryan. I think we need at least 2 midfielders in really. Osborn, I think will predominantly be a midfielder but will play LWB if needed. Say Ebou, Osborn, Kenzo and 2 more really. Then potentially look to loan out Fornah and Robinson. We are pretty stocked at centre half, but one more I think. Maybe 1 like Nyambe who can also play full back in a 4. I agree on the attacking players. One forward and a wideman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: We are pretty stocked at centre half, but one more I think. Maybe 1 like Nyambe who can also play full back in a 4. We are, but here's my thinking... If we're going to play with a back 3, we need 6 centre-halves. At the moment, that is: Cashin, Nelson, Bradley, Nyambe, Forsyth, Rooney. In my opinion (and perhaps I'm being overly harsh) the only two that will cut it in the Championship are the two in bold. So on that basis, I think we need at least one more starting centre-half, and another as back-up. Perhaps a Prem loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 16 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: I'll reply to yours but in response to all: My thinking behind x2 centre-halves is as follows - With Cashin I don't see a problem. Nelson had a fantastic year last season but struggled at Cardiff and Blackpool when last in the Championship. There's no guarantee his performances will drop but we have to accept that the opposition will be harder. Bradley...the case is out. Nyambe I'm not convinced is totally comfortable in that position. As for Craig Forsyth...if he is going to start for us in this division we won't be in it for very long. A little harsh maybe, but Warne said he'd need to be ruthless with his recruitment. I don't want to see us go straight back down to League One and a back three of Cashin-Nelson-Bradley wouldn't fill me with confidence. Cool, I see the logic. The challenge I see is carrying those numbers in the squad if no one moves on, keeping them all content and involved could be a challenge. Personally I think Nelson and Cashin showed enough last season to do well at Championship level. Nelson has over 100 apps at Championship level and whilst he was part of a relegated Blackpool side he wasn’t there for the whole season only joining in the January so I’m reluctant to pin their relegation on him alone. I’d trust them as a 2 in the champ and with Nyambe in a 3, though we’d potentially give away height in that set up. I mentioned in another thread that Bradley and Forsyth, along with Rooney would be the backups for me, covering injury/suspension, playing the occasional games in the league and cup. Add one more, younger and more robust cb into that group and I think there’s enough depth and cover. Defensively it’s left back/left wing back that worries me unless the plan is for Osborn to play there. Elder had his injuries last season and Foz is a great servant, but an aging one. I’d go with us needing; 2 x GK (or maybe 1 and trust the young lads as 3rd choice?) 1 x CB (lower down the priority list) 1 x LWB (a luxury want) 2 x CM 1 x CF (I don’t feel we need another wide attacker unless someone moves on with NML, CBT, Barkhuizen, Jackson, and Wilson/Ward also options) Still plenty of work to do. Ram1988, TomTom92 and Carnero 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Goalkeeper: any of the 4 linked would be a step up from last season. LWB: Longman CB: ? CM1: Ebou CM2: Bobby Clarke Attacker: Dembele Striker: Joe Taylor (Luton) giving us a squad of: GK: New quality, Vickers, Young lad RWB: Ward, Wilson RB: Nyambe CB (in a 3) : Nyambe, Nelson, Cashin, Bradley, Rooney, Forsyth, ? LWB: Longman, Elder CM: Osbourne, Kenzo, Ebou, Clarke, Thompson, Fornah, Robinson Secondary attackers: NML, Jackson, CBT, Dembele, Barkhuizen Strikers: Yates, Taylor, Collins, Washington, Brown Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 52 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Cool, I see the logic. The challenge I see is carrying those numbers in the squad if no one moves on, keeping them all content and involved could be a challenge. Personally I think Nelson and Cashin showed enough last season to do well at Championship level. Nelson has over 100 apps at Championship level and whilst he was part of a relegated Blackpool side he wasn’t there for the whole season only joining in the January so I’m reluctant to pin their relegation on him alone. I’d trust them as a 2 in the champ and with Nyambe in a 3, though we’d potentially give away height in that set up. I mentioned in another thread that Bradley and Forsyth, along with Rooney would be the backups for me, covering injury/suspension, playing the occasional games in the league and cup. Add one more, younger and more robust cb into that group and I think there’s enough depth and cover. Defensively it’s left back/left wing back that worries me unless the plan is for Osborn to play there. Elder had his injuries last season and Foz is a great servant, but an aging one. I’d go with us needing; 2 x GK (or maybe 1 and trust the young lads as 3rd choice?) 1 x CB (lower down the priority list) 1 x LWB (a luxury want) 2 x CM 1 x CF (I don’t feel we need another wide attacker unless someone moves on with NML, CBT, Barkhuizen, Jackson, and Wilson/Ward also options) Still plenty of work to do. Pretty much agree with this. I'm unsure at the moment if we be playing Osborn at left wing back primarily or centre mid and if we play with a midfield 2 or 3. This will obviously change the focus on how many centre midfielders we need and if we need another left wing back. Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 I’m part of the ‘it’s a new era, no more reckless spending’ brigade however Taylor from Luton is the type of player that if available (has proven himself at league 1 and looked dangerous) I’d be willing to push the boat out for (within reason, ie <£3m aka the two sell on clause payments) because I think he’s the sort of young raw player who someone would pay us £10m for if he has a decent season. Though I can understand if we’re not quite there yet with being able to spend millions (plural) on a single player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 I wouldn't say no to Ivan Šunjić as am alternative to Ebou (as a squad rotation option) if the wages were right. Still only 27,available on a free and has a solid history of staying injury free. Carnero and Caerphilly Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammed79 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Bournemouth likely to loan out new signing Jebbison wouldn't say no if he were to come to Derby Eoghan1884, Wsm-ram, Carnero and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECornerRAM Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Been a turn in Adams this week Looks likely Cardiff come to their senses / Adams pushed the needle Everyone at the club expects this to be done in the next week or so - looks like 650k plus add ons and sell on To my knowledge Ryan is going to Millwall, things change very quickly though ATM emjem, Derby4Me, Eoghan1884 and 5 others 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 minute ago, SECornerRAM said: Been a turn in Adams this week Looks likely Cardiff come to their senses / Adams pushed the needle Everyone at the club expects this to be done in the next week or so - looks like 650k plus add ons and sell on To my knowledge Ryan is going to Millwall, things change very quickly though ATM Great news on Ebou Millwall?! Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 minutes ago, SECornerRAM said: Been a turn in Adams this week Looks likely Cardiff come to their senses / Adams pushed the needle Everyone at the club expects this to be done in the next week or so - looks like 650k plus add ons and sell on To my knowledge Ryan is going to Millwall, things change very quickly though ATM Millwall signing a different keeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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