VAR (and stupid interpretation of rules in general) rant

[EtoileSportiveDeDerby]

Problem: <add your rant, point of view here>
Solution:bin it

Simple as that. Football was fine for many years, a few mistakes along the way and all well remembered, Maradona hand of god, Henry light touch, Lampard ghost goal.  We watch howlers by players in L1 week in week out, some defying the laws of physics, it’s football and refereeing is an integral part of it, it should have been kept that way. It wasn’t really broken so no need to fix it.

 

[Ram-Alf]

1 hour ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

Problem: <add your rant, point of view here>
Solution:bin it

Simple as that. Football was fine for many years, a few mistakes along the way and all well remembered, Maradona hand of god, Henry light touch, Lampard ghost goal.  We watch howlers by players in L1 week in week out, some defying the laws of physics, it’s football and refereeing is an integral part of it, it should have been kept that way. It wasn’t really broken so no need to fix it.

 

If memory serves me Jeff Steeling was a major instigator, Every Saturday he'd be hammering home the values of a TV replay, Most Saturdays he'd be howling when seeing an injustice on one of his TV screens..."we have the technology use it" he'd shout.

Well we have it and now it's fixed into the football laws with FIFA, Watching the game on Monday night Spurs Vs Chelsea...christ on a bike when's this game going to end, Newcastle Vs Arsenal...3 decisions...did the ball go out, Was there a push on the defender, Was there an offside...how long did this take? It's not a case of "clear and obvious" anymore...it's forensically examined.

Penalty's given for being touched by a Butterfly's wing, Offside when a finger nail is where the red line is drawn, Play being brought back where a foul was deemed to have happened and disallow the goal, It's never ending 🙄      

[TigerTedd]

5 hours ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

Problem: <add your rant, point of view here>
Solution:bin it

Simple as that. Football was fine for many years, a few mistakes along the way and all well remembered, Maradona hand of god, Henry light touch, Lampard ghost goal.  We watch howlers by players in L1 week in week out, some defying the laws of physics, it’s football and refereeing is an integral part of it, it should have been kept that way. It wasn’t really broken so no need to fix it.

 

But wouldn’t it have been good to just be able to use the technology to rift those rare wrongs. VAR itself isn’t evil, it’s just being massively overused to forensically check every decision. 

Having said that, there’s an argument to say, once the dust has settled, moments like the hand of god become part of the folklore and history of football. Without moments like that, would football be more sanitised, and have less historical moments to remember?

[Srg]

2 minutes ago, TigerTedd said:

But wouldn’t it have been good to just be able to use the technology to rift those rare wrongs. VAR itself isn’t evil, it’s just being massively overused to forensically check every decision. 

Having said that, there’s an argument to say, once the dust has settled, moments like the hand of god become part of the folklore and history of football. Without moments like that, would football be more sanitised, and have less historical moments to remember?

Don't see any other way to have it without it moving to an appeal system. It has to check everything in its current guise, and it’s shocking. Appeal system makes far too much sense and it’s mad they haven’t tried it. 

[AndyinLiverpool]

2 minutes ago, TigerTedd said:

But wouldn’t it have been good to just be able to use the technology to rift those rare wrongs. VAR itself isn’t evil, it’s just being massively overused to forensically check every decision. 

Having said that, there’s an argument to say, once the dust has settled, moments like the hand of god become part of the folklore and history of football. Without moments like that, would football be more sanitised, and have less historical moments to remember?

It's inevitable that it will be overused. Referees aren't going to make important decisions without recourse to VAR because they know the vile abuse that will come if they get something wrong.

Look how it is overused for run outs in cricket - even if the batter is miles out, the umpires will have another look on the video.

[TigerTedd]

4 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

It's inevitable that it will be overused. Referees aren't going to make important decisions without recourse to VAR because they know the vile abuse that will come if they get something wrong.

Look how it is overused for run outs in cricket - even if the batter is miles out, the umpires will have another look on the video.

That’s why an appeals system makes more and more sense. The power is in the hands of the players then. Ref’s make their normal decisions, but if it’s a wrong decision, the players can appeal. If, after the game, it was revealed to be a wrong decision, the players only have themselves to blame for not appealing. 

They appeal anyway, but with no formalised on the spot appealing system, appealing just becomes hounding the referee, abusing him, and then getting yourself booked. 

Formalise that process, and everyone’s happy. 

[Srg]

4 minutes ago, TigerTedd said:

That’s why an appeals system makes more and more sense. The power is in the hands of the players then. Ref’s make their normal decisions, but if it’s a wrong decision, the players can appeal. If, after the game, it was revealed to be a wrong decision, the players only have themselves to blame for not appealing. 

They appeal anyway, but with no formalised on the spot appealing system, appealing just becomes hounding the referee, abusing him, and then getting yourself booked. 

Formalise that process, and everyone’s happy. 

Plus if they’re limited, you won’t get appeals for every goal because you can’t waste them. 

[AndyinLiverpool]

11 minutes ago, TigerTedd said:

That’s why an appeals system makes more and more sense. The power is in the hands of the players then. Ref’s make their normal decisions, but if it’s a wrong decision, the players can appeal. If, after the game, it was revealed to be a wrong decision, the players only have themselves to blame for not appealing. 

They appeal anyway, but with no formalised on the spot appealing system, appealing just becomes hounding the referee, abusing him, and then getting yourself booked. 

Formalise that process, and everyone’s happy. 

Will it stop players and managers complaining? They do it when they've only got themselves to blame anyway.

[Gritstone Ram]

Could this be classed as match fixing? Time added on 0-0.

[RadioactiveWaste]

Best thing to do with VAR is nominate 1 team a week to get VARed

"This week we have <insert presonality/celebraty> to pick the team to be VARed this week is........"

And then that team (not match, team) gets VARed to death whilst everyone else gets a normal warts n all refereed match to enjoy, but the VAR cultists can salavate at the delays, the bawhair offside thay can smugly go home knowing was right, the disallowed goals that are really the joy of the game.

And no one can say it's unfair because, VAR makes everything better right? SO it's never a bad thing if your team gets VARed.