Gone Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, sage said: One of many. Ignoring the massive increase in cases yesterday. Yes, more increases in cases and less hospital submissions means the virus may have changed or we have become more resistance to its effects. Hopefully it’s the sign we can open up the Country again before its to late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Yes, more increases in cases and less hospital submissions means the virus may have changed or we have become more resistance to its effects. Hopefully it’s the sign we can open up the Country again before its to late! There are lots of unknowns. I'm not rushing to stand on a crowded bus or train just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, TexasRam said: Not sure how flat the curve needs to be before we can return all back to normal, but it can’t get much flatter Did you post this view of South West hospital patients after seeing the steep rise in infections yesterday yesterday across the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Yes, more increases in cases and less hospital submissions means the virus may have changed or we have become more resistance to its effects. Hopefully it’s the sign we can open up the Country again before its to late! Surely everyone knows that in March/April there were a high proportion of people being tested were very ill. I'm concerned that we are in a similar position to Jan/Feb now where very few people were in hospital, but it seems like lots of people were probably infected. I'm not aware of any evidence contrary to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 hours ago, TexasRam said: I would of thought COVID cases in hospital would of been the key indicator, don’t you? key indicator of what though? That current infection rates are largely among the young, who are more likely to be socialising and less likely to be hospitalised. But the young can still pass it on. That's how viruses work. It's a key indicator that things are likely to get bad very soon, as the virus gets free rein again https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-54056771 Christ - even Matt Hancock gets it, and he's a total moron Quote A third of all cases in England last week were people aged between 20 and 29. "The numbers have been going up. And we've seen in other countries where this leads, and it is not a good place," Matt Hancock says. Students starting university this month is a "concern", he adds. Speaking to Radio 1 Newsbeat, the health secretary pointed to France and Spain, "where that second wave started largely amongst younger people, it then spreads". "And now we're seeing a sharp rise in the number of people in hospital and the number of people who are dying in those countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 First day back for us today. Not missed this at all - was up at 6.30 out by just gone 7, arrived at work at 7.45. Came within 2 meters of at least 10 other people whilst not wearing a mask. Did what I had to do by about 1pm. Had half hour lunch. Then instead of a 30 minute call with the gaffer, and a couple of tasks to complete by the end of the day, had an hour and a half meeting whilst 2 other people rambled on, and then rushed through what came out of that meeting in an hour so I could leave on time. Left at 4pm, got home at 4.45. Did probably slightly less work than I would on a normal working from home day due to a couple of chats to colleagues not seen for 6 months and spent an extra hour and a half getting there and back. At no point was there any productivity benefit to me being in the office as opposed to at home, I unnecessarily risked catching or transmitting the virus (however low that risk might be at present), and I lost an hour commuting 5 miles each way, polluting the planet and then another 15 minutes each way walking to the car. All because some coffee shops and cafes in London are empty. On balance it doesn't seem too logical a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djfred84 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I wish you guys would stop indulging in he shall not be named nearly everypost he has his fishing rod next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, SchtivePesley said: key indicator of what though? That current infection rates are largely among the young, who are more likely to be socialising and less likely to be hospitalised. But the young can still pass it on. That's how viruses work. It's a key indicator that things are likely to get bad very soon, as the virus gets free rein again https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-54056771 Christ - even Matt Hancock gets it, and he's a total moron So I post a trend with at least 25 data points which is required to make any statical analysis relevant. You then reply quoting one data point as significant.....and I’m the moron, oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, djfred84 said: I wish you guys would stop indulging in he shall not be named nearly everypost he has his fishing rod next to him. It’s a forum, open for debate and different views. Some may differ from yours, that’s life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djfred84 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, TexasRam said: It’s a forum, open for debate and different views. Some may differ from yours, that’s life Sorry never know when you are being genuine or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, djfred84 said: Sorry never know when you are being genuine or not. No problem, I dont always confirm with the populous for a Ram ? im not that keen on sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 hours ago, TexasRam said: Yes, more increases in cases and less hospital submissions means the virus may have changed or we have become more resistance to its effects. Hopefully it’s the sign we can open up the Country again before its to late! Or maybe changed the way of counting , perhaps diagnosis of Covid deaths have been tightened up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 9 hours ago, sage said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-54053618 This may not bode well for football returning. Never mind in the stands what about on the pitch, QSG have got 7 players with Covid, all 1st team players all involved in CL final. Neymar, Icardi, Di Maria, Paredes, Navas, Marquinhos and now M'Bappe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 4 hours ago, TexasRam said: So I post a trend with at least 25 data points which is required to make any statical analysis relevant. You then reply quoting one data point as significant.....and I’m the moron, oh Nowhere did I call you a moron Yes your graph had some data points - but it didn't have any meaningful analysis of those data points. You just said the curve couldn't get much flatter. Might as well have said that the graph was a blue line with some pale blue shading. We're not blind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Another day of 3k infections and Matt Hancock has warned younger people not to ignore social distancing measures, which could lead to older people, such as grandparents catching the virus. Honestly, it's like he hasn't even looked at @TexasRam's chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I'm convinced this virus has mutated to something more contagious and less harmful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I have left it a long time to comment to you guys. As you know, I live in Sweden and we didnt do lock down here. The perception from outside could be that we carried on as usual when in reality it wasnt like that at all. Strict social distancing measures were in place from the get go and they were enforced too. The Swedish ideology was somewhere between having a large land mass and a low population ( Stockholm largest city of slightly under one million) and the herd immunity, whereby you let the virus run its course and hope for as low mortality rate as possible. The first three months were hard as possible. The mortality rate per capita was high. At one point the highest in Europe. However, as we get through August and into September the signs are positive. No deaths in any of the large cities for three weeks. Last week at Umeå university they tested 5500 students with a result of two positive. We wont relax and get complacent. In the meantime I can only hope things improve back home in UK. It looks like quite a road ahead still. Im looking forward to the day I can come back and see family and friends. Sadly we lost my dad in May. The family had to do the funeral without me and im still not able to come back over to see everyone without going into quarantine and lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 5 hours ago, RamNut said: Just adding some perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 hours ago, TexasRam said: Just adding some perspective Can you forward these charts over to the government please. I'm not sure what wacky data they are using, but they are coming up with this sort of thing: "We’ve been able to relax a bit over the summer, the disease levels have been really quite low in the UK through the summer but these latest figures really show us that much as people might like to say ‘oh well it’s gone away’ - this hasn’t gone away. And if we’re not careful, if we don’t take this incredibly seriously from this point in we’re going to have a bumpy ride over the next few months." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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