Martyn Waghorn

[RiddingsRam]

4 hours ago, Millenniumram said:

Still a better player than Jack Marriott 

Definitely ! 

[Gone]

6 hours ago, Millenniumram said:

Still a better player than Jack Marriott 

When posting that ?

[Chester40]

7 hours ago, G-Ram said:

Whenever i watch him he looks like he's playing in jeans & a pair of timberlands. 

Loving this ?????

[Millenniumram]

36 minutes ago, TexasRam said:

When posting that ?

Fully sober actually, for about the last time this week 

[Archied]

8 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

Remind me how many chances he's needed to have them bounce in off him?

At least he is getting into scoring positions, now if we are being fair and comparing all round pluses and minus ‘s Martin or Marriott are certainly doing no better and perhaps worse , so so funny watching the biased reaction to leaving him on and taking Martin off when we went down to ten men at reading after 4 minutes as if it was a no brainier ,,, that was nothing more than biased ignore the blatantly obvious 

[angieram]

16 minutes ago, Archied said:

At least he is getting into scoring positions, now if we are being fair and comparing all round pluses and minus ‘s Martin or Marriott are certainly doing no better and perhaps worse , so so funny watching the biased reaction to leaving him on and taking Martin off when we went down to ten men at reading after 4 minutes as if it was a no brainier ,,, that was nothing more than biased ignore the blatantly obvious 

I was disappointed to see Martin go off at Reading as I thought we would need him to hold the ball up and bring others into play. However,  I also thought Waghorn had one of his better all-round games for Derby and he is certainly quicker than Martin so was good in the transition. Happy to be proved wrong to some degree but such a shame he didn't really get hold of his one big chance in front of goal.

For those mentioning corners, he did take at least one from the right against Reading.

[RoyMac5]

21 minutes ago, Archied said:

At least he is getting into scoring positions, now if we are being fair and comparing all round pluses and minus ‘s Martin or Marriott are certainly doing no better and perhaps worse , so so funny watching the biased reaction to leaving him on and taking Martin off when we went down to ten men at reading after 4 minutes as if it was a no brainier ,,, that was nothing more than biased ignore the blatantly obvious 

Martin and Marriott would get in similar positions but then who would create? What did Waghorn do but miss a(nother) one on one that Marriott or Martin would have buried.

[Archied]

8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Martin and Marriott would get in similar positions but then who would create? What did Waghorn do but miss a(nother) one on one that Marriott or Martin would have buried.

In a ten man team for 90 mins he has the legs and work rate to close down and defend from the front with the potential to score too , now if you fancy Martin as being the better option because you feel he holds the ball up better then fair enough ,it’s opinion but no no no way is it a clear cut manager is blind don’t know what he’s doing substitution and to see it that clear cut is just pure biased 

[Archied]

14 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Martin and Marriott would get in similar positions but then who would create? What did Waghorn do but miss a(nother) one on one that Marriott or Martin would have buried.

Yep ,sure ,down to ten away from home the midfield are going to be pushing on running beyond the striker for 90 mins ?

[RoyMac5]

2 minutes ago, Archied said:

In a ten man team for 90 mins he has the legs and work rate to close down and defend from the front with the potential to score too , now if you fancy Martin as being the better option because you feel he holds the ball up better then fair enough ,it’s opinion but no no no way is it a clear cut manager is blind don’t know what he’s doing substitution and to see it that clear cut is just pure biased 

Worked well then.

[Archied]

Just now, RoyMac5 said:

Worked well then.

Yep the things we don’t do ALWAYS work well or or least would certainly would have if only we had done it that way ,, silly old cocu ,if only he had kept Chris on we would have won 3 -1 with a Martin hatrick, why oh why can’t he see that

[Archied]

4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Worked well then.

Well cocu has brought Martin back into the fold and he is fairly regular starter ,,, how wells that working ?

[RoyMac5]

3 minutes ago, Archied said:

Well cocu has brought Martin back into the fold and he is fairly regular starter ,,, how wells that working ?

Better when he plays with support - are the best periods of play even - don't let that get in the way of your point though. ?

[Archied]

Just now, RoyMac5 said:

Better when he plays with support - are the best periods of play even - don't let that get in the way of your point though. ?

He’s playing , we are not scoring or winning , by your logic it’s clear we would be winning if we dropped him and Marriott took his place 

[RoyMac5]

3 minutes ago, Archied said:

He’s playing , we are not scoring or winning , by your logic it’s clear we would be winning if we dropped him and Marriott took his place 

21 hours ago, JfR said:

As minutes per goal in the league this season:
Martin - 242.5 mins per goal (4 goals in 970 mins)
Waghorn - 264.3 mins per goal (6 goals in 1586 mins)
Lawrence - 374.4 mins per goal (5 goals in 1872 mins)
Paterson - 493 mins per goal (1 goal in 493 mins)
Shinnie - 538 mins per goal (1 goal in 538 mins)
Marriott - 727 mins per goal (1 goal in 727 mins)
Huddlestone - 856 mins per goal (1 goal in 856 mins)
Malone - 1160 mins per goal (1 goal in 1160 mins)

[Archied]

16 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

21 hours ago, JfR said:

As minutes per goal in the league this season:
Martin - 242.5 mins per goal (4 goals in 970 mins)
Waghorn - 264.3 mins per goal (6 goals in 1586 mins)
Lawrence - 374.4 mins per goal (5 goals in 1872 mins)
Paterson - 493 mins per goal (1 goal in 493 mins)
Shinnie - 538 mins per goal (1 goal in 538 mins)
Marriott - 727 mins per goal (1 goal in 727 mins)
Huddlestone - 856 mins per goal (1 goal in 856 mins)
Malone - 1160 mins per goal (1 goal in 1160 mins)

Yep , ground covered stats? 

[RoyMac5]

9 minutes ago, Archied said:

Yep , ground covered stats? 

What has that to do with scoring goals?

[Sexydadbod]

Saw that Sunderland(again) are after Martin on a loan deal in January. Shame, I’d still have Martin around as a second or third back up. With the Marriott links to Hull, must mean we are signing at least one new forward, unless Cocu plans on playing Rooney right up top, which would be a mistake imo, he’d be better as a no 10 and help to solve the lack of creativity from midfield

[RoyMac5]

12 minutes ago, Sexydadbod said:

Saw that Sunderland(again) are after Martin on a loan deal in January. Shame, I’d still have Martin around as a second or third back up. With the Marriott links to Hull, must mean we are signing at least one new forward, unless Cocu plans on playing Rooney right up top, which would be a mistake imo, he’d be better as a no 10 and help to solve the lack of creativity from midfield

What no-one wants Waghorn?

[cannable]

Similar enough to Martin to cover him, different enough to give us something different. 

I find it hard to be critical of any of our strikers when we’re struggling to even get it into the final third of the pitch.