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13 minutes ago, 1of4 said:

The document that Corbyn was brandishing this morning may or may not indicate that the tories plan to sell off the NHS. What shouldn't be overlooked is the other subjects that are contained within it. 

 

What shouldn’t be overlooked is that the presented 451 pages at a big staged press conference as proof (no ambiguity with that claim) and turned out to be discussion points only. 
 

Now, either he knew this and lied in the hope people wouldn’t notice, or nobody had actually checked what was in it prior to today’s stunt. 
 

That makes him either a liar or very stupid. Which is worse?

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2 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

Yep - but some will just sneer and dismiss it. More fool them

Dismiss what? All that was presented today is notes from discussions and listing topics for future trade talks. 
 

That was an act of desperation today

Are you ok with fake nhs workers handing out the documents to reporters? You don’t seem to like any dodgy tactics from the other side. 

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16 minutes ago, Curtains said:

Answer this did Labour accuse the Tories over and over of not negotiating Trade deals for post Brexit .

Now they have-communicated they get lambasted for it .

The NHS is not for sale.
 

Corbyn is really desperate I’d say.  

Are you happy if we sign up to the other subjects raised in these documented minutes, that were taken during the meetings between the trade negotiators of each country.

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47 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

LOL - it's a good funny, but doesn't actually change his point does it?

What that governments sell things off? No it doesnt.

Based on Labour selling off our gold reserves, how can I trust them not to sell off the NHS if they come into power?

It's not like they didnt already take the first step with PFI is it?

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19 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

What that governments sell things off? No it doesnt.

Based on Labour selling off our gold reserves, how can I trust them not to sell off the NHS if they come into power?

It's not like they didnt already take the first step with PFI is it?

What, those arch Trots Brown and Blair?

So tedious reading posts from folk who still actually seem (or even more lamentably pretend)  to believe that Blair was a socialist. So lame.

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1 hour ago, Van Wolfie said:

Dismiss what? All that was presented today is notes from discussions and listing topics for future trade talks. 
 

That was an act of desperation today

Are you ok with fake nhs workers handing out the documents to reporters? You don’t seem to like any dodgy tactics from the other side. 

It was definitely just put out there to deflect from the car crash interview with Andrew Neil last night. 

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4 hours ago, maxjam said:

DUP got 0.9% of the vote last time around, yet they handed Tories the power. 

Who knows how this vote will turnout, but the BP might be in a similar position.

It makes no sense to compare the Brexit Party with the DUP.  The DUP have candidates only in N.Ireland, which itself  has less than 3% of the UK population. The DUP got 36% of the vote in N.Ireland and that's what allowed them to get the 10 seats it has that enabled them to prop up the Tories.  Had they spread their 0,9% across the whole of the UK, they would have surely got 0 seats.  The Brexit party will be running in far more constituencies than the DUP therefore it's totally pointless to compare the two.

Nevertheless, even a couple of seats might hold the balance of power after the next election. who knows?

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9 hours ago, Uptherams said:

So I have watched Nigel Farage's Question Time after seeing all the others. He made a fantastic point about the car industry. If we are going to continue down the path of electric vehicles, many more jobs will be lost than all the scaremongering pre and post referendum. Electric vehicles have very few moving parts. The impact this will have on the market is profound. 

At least four wheels, surely?

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8 hours ago, Van Wolfie said:

Dismiss what? All that was presented today is notes from discussions and listing topics for future trade talks. 
 

That was an act of desperation today

Are you ok with fake nhs workers handing out the documents to reporters? You don’t seem to like any dodgy tactics from the other side. 

I did not know whether to laugh or be annoyed. I was expecting patients to be wheeled in wearing casts (one covered from head to toe in bandages in a semi-comedy manner) and start moaing at tbe nhs.

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3 hours ago, Andicis said:

Not brilliant. But I honestly don't believe any other party would have done a better job with the mess the country was in from 2010. 

No dont you know labour had a magic wand, and darling didnt say we would be in for 2 parliaments of pain.

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6 hours ago, GboroRam said:

If you like having an NHS, vote Labour. 

I can see we are going to have to re-run this General Election. 

Its becoming quite clear that some voters have been lied to about the NHS and dont know what they are voting for...

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