Gary Teale Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I don't think the team of bottlers was that bad finishing in the play offs 2 seasons out of the last 3 and losing a game at Wembley we totally dominated (which sometimes just happens in football). Also add to that a lot of the time playing attacking football that was great to watch. I would rather be watching what we had than this absolute rubbish we are watching this season. A top 6 side has been dismantled in 10 games, the muppets have got what they wanted and destroyed everything that's been good about us. Playing the ball into martin with runners from midfield was so predictable, the way we play now is so much harder to defend against. Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, Tony Le Mesmer said: Why does NP keep using both Ince and Blackman from the bench and nothing ever happens when they've come on? Replace them with youngsters and bring them on for 15 / 20 minutes instead or you're basically wasting substitutions. Can't hurt surely? This is what I don't understand. Why keep using them when they don't bring anything to the performance? He keeps taking off a central midfielder for Ince. We already struggle to get decent service into the forwards, and when this happens, we find it even harder, so they all struggle. Not denying they're also both on awful runs of form as well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: He keeps taking off a central midfielder for Ince. We already struggle to get decent service into the forwards, and when this happens, we find it even harder, so they all struggle. Not denying they're also both on awful runs of form as well though. Fair points and not going to disagree with that but they both are supposed to be talented attacking players with great ability and the reason they are brought on is to take their chance and effect the game as best they can. Hopefully with a view to convincing the manager that he is wrong about them and they deserve a starting berth. They aren't even noticed when they come on which despite how they fit into the system when they come on, highlights a lack of something in both players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satty atwal Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Has he gone yet? And is our hitman back from fulham yet? Also when is our REAL captain fit? We gave them all a 9 game headstart now times right to storm back and win league! MM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, emjlc02 said: I don't think the team of bottlers was that bad finishing in the play offs 2 seasons out of the last 3 and losing a game at Wembley we totally dominated (which sometimes just happens in football). Also add to that a lot of the time playing attacking football that was great to watch. I would rather be watching what we had than this absolute rubbish we are watching this season. A top 6 side has been dismantled in 10 games, the muppets have got what they wanted and destroyed everything that's been good about us. Playing the ball into martin with runners from midfield was so predictable, the way we play now is so much harder to defend against. Madness 5 months ago, more goals in 90 minutes, than 810 this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Leeds Ram said: I read the whole post, I was referring to it being ironic that you are more than happy to call people for not giving their full support to the team, and yet your wife can't even manage lasting a full 90 minutes today....are you sure she is not a red dog :-) I think it's far more dignified to leave early than to hurl abuse at players, management etc like others do. But you wouldn't understand that, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, CumbrianRam said: 5 months ago, more goals in 90 minutes, than 810 this season! Balls into strikers feet, midfielders making runs off the ball, through balls to wingers, strikers holding the ball up, players in the final third with other players near them, we used to be able to do all of that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, eddie said: I think it's far more dignified to leave early than to hurl abuse at players, management etc like others do. But you wouldn't understand that, would you? No I stay until the end to give my support, I'm not a fair weather supporter that leaves when the going gets tough, however I can understand if people get frustrated. Ironic is though when you spend two years lecturing people on how to support a team, taking the mickey with your BCO comments and yet you messiah iOS and leaves as soon as the chips are down....comedy gold at its best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Listened the the RD interview, oh dear the monotone voice and sounds like a guy without a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Yeah, I used to love the little sing song voice of Clough, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I don't think the current crop of players look like they like each other. There appears very little laughing and joking pre-match and when the whistle blows, they don't support and help each other with unselfish running, covering and encouragement. I think Derby has developed into a 'toxic' club of known bottlers and that's why we are a) not attracting the players we would like b) being unable to get rid of the culprits That's a tough situation for any manager. I have supported Pearson in the hope I would see what we is trying to achieve. However, I still can't see how this team is trying to win its games. Sulking players and a sulking manager is a recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 13 hours ago, duncanjwitham said: I have a very simple policy for this. If a manager asks a player to do what he's good at and the player plays badly, I blame the player. If a manager asks a player to do something he's bad at and the player plays badly, I blame the manager. I am not blaming a single player tonight. I'm at the end of the line with Pearson it wouldn't bother me if tomorrow's phone in was discussing who should take over from the departed Pearson... However I'm sure Pearson asked the defence to defend, something which we can agree they are good at, something which they didn't do well at all for both Blackburn goals... Dont get me wrong we were ***** yesterday and a win would have papered over cracks but those goals we conceded are down to the players...the general performance which was ***** was down to Pearson. 11 hours ago, philmycock said: There's a major reason for this Elaborate?? 10 hours ago, Ram79 said: After blaming the players I suspect they may let Cardiff walk it in the hope Pearson gets the boot he must be close . And if this happens I will post my season ticket and every Derby shirt from this group of players' era to moor farm and I'll not show my face at matches until every one of those playing has left the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Don't know if anybody else noticed but at the final whistle there was a number of players that slumped to knees or hit the deck. wasnt the reaction of a set of players that don't give a ..... i don't see a massive change in their application, they still run as they did for Wassall previously or even clement what I do see though Is a team with absolutely no game plan or if there is it's basic park kick and hope football no wonder they're looking bewildered, disjointed and a complete mess the current tactics if u wanted to call them that are a complete joke i wanted Pearson and I still hope/believe he can sort us out but we simply don't have the players to play the sort of football he wants us too, so it does baffles me that he's still trying this mass overhaul in playing style, surely a gradual transition would have been less damaging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Anyone else Andy weimanns 'suicide throw in' back to Carson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Just now, NottsRam77 said: Anyone else Andy weimanns 'suicide throw in' back to Carson Was he making a tantrum statement "Why am I playing left back" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
England Ram Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 No, he'd actually passed it to Keogh who'd turned his back at the wrong moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, WystonRam said: Was he making a tantrum statement "Why am I playing left back" ? Absolutely funny u say that, turned to my dad and said that's why he's not a left f ing midfielder. dont get me wrong as a professional footballer he should still be able to take a throw in obviously, but Weimann is a forward, not a left midfielder, not a right midfielder a straight forward rapid sticker who thinks like a forward, his use of the ball in deep lying areas highlights this, he's so rediculously cheap with the ball it hurts but what he made his name as was a busy little forward who made intelligent runs playing on the shoulder. not left back lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, England Ram said: No, he'd actually passed it to Keogh who'd turned his back at the wrong moment. It looked horrible whatever it was lol it was certainly never on, although his lack of options down the line were non existent too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I'm going to stop talking about this now it's upsetting me, Iv already wrote saturday off I don't want to ruin my Sunday too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRBee Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: Don't know if anybody else noticed but at the final whistle there was a number of players that slumped to knees or hit the deck. wasnt the reaction of a set of players that don't give a ..... i don't see a massive change in their application, they still run as they did for Wassall previously or even clement what I do see though Is a team with absolutely no game plan or if there is it's basic park kick and hope football no wonder they're looking bewildered, disjointed and a complete mess the current tactics if u wanted to call them that are a complete joke i wanted Pearson and I still hope/believe he can sort us out but we simply don't have the players to play the sort of football he wants us too, so it does baffles me that he's still trying this mass overhaul in playing style, surely a gradual transition would have been less damaging Good post. The interview was very revealing - with Pearson not taking any responsibility on himself. He clearly thinks that it is all down to hard work and that will sort things. What does he see in training that justifies his team selections? He seems to lack any emotional identification with our club. Can't imagine how his 'cold fish' approach will motivate players. He has to be given more time but by Christmas we'll know if he is a Jim Smith or a Phil Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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