Ashz09 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Hi All, We've had a problem ever since the house was brought 2 years ago with the water coming through the ceiling into the kitchen (The Bathroom is just above). I got down to the bottom of one problem which was a hole in the Silicone in the bath close to the shower. The brother in law fixed this problem thankfully. Now another problem has occurred the misses at times either forgets to turn the tap off properly or is not strong enough when she attempts it. Went in the Kitchen last night whole place flooded as she didn't tighten the tap in the sink properly. Which in turn was still running but down the tap and down the pipe at the back in to the floor then down through the kitchen ceiling. The question I've got is can you put the bath Silicone around these taps to solve this problem? Or is this a stupid idea? I can see this being the only way to solve this problem. Then if I ever sell the house I can always remove the silicone so it doesn't look daft. Last question is how much on averageish is it to replace a ceiling? Cheers in advance guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Probably but buy your missus a gym membership instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 It sounds like your taps are either incorrectly fitted or the the sealing washer has perished. Even if the tap is left on you shouldn't get water running down the pipe - unless you meant that it overflowed from a basin/bath with the plug left in. It is a job you can do, but is fiddly and requires a couple of specialist tools. I'd recommend getting a plumber in to sort the problem. Also, if it takes force to turn the tap off, the washer inside is worn out and needs replacing - again a slightly tricky DIY job, but an easy fix for a plumber. You can also get replacement taps, which are often easier to fit than changing washers if the taps are really old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ashz09 said: Hi All, We've had a problem ever since the house was brought 2 years ago with the water coming through the ceiling into the kitchen (The Bathroom is just above). I got down to the bottom of one problem which was a hole in the Silicone in the bath close to the shower. The brother in law fixed this problem thankfully. Now another problem has occurred the misses at times either forgets to turn the tap off properly or is not strong enough when she attempts it. Went in the Kitchen last night whole place flooded as she didn't tighten the tap in the sink properly. Which in turn was still running but down the tap and down the pipe at the back in to the floor then down through the kitchen ceiling. The question I've got is can you put the bath Silicone around these taps to solve this problem? Or is this a stupid idea? I can see this being the only way to solve this problem. Then if I ever sell the house I can always remove the silicone so it doesn't look daft. Last question is how much on averageish is it to replace a ceiling? Cheers in advance guys. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to put silicone round the tap. Or replace the tap with one that she can turn off. As far as the celing goes, obviously it would depend on the extent of the damage. We had a similar situation where our en-suite bath had a big leak when one of the jacuzzi pipes blew off. It looked pretty bad from underneath, with the ceiling sagging a bit but we had it fixed at the weekend and it just needed a section of plaster removing and re-doing. The structure of the floor/ ceiling was fine. We've been advised to use a couple of coats of undercoat paint, to stop the stains coming through but should be sorted now. It was a mate who did ours so only cost me a few quid (and a very nice homemade lasagne lunch) but I was previously quoted about £400 for the job - which seemed a bit over the top but I don't have anything to benchmark that against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 12 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: It sounds like your taps are either incorrectly fitted or the the sealing washer has perished. Even if the tap is left on you shouldn't get water running down the pipe - unless you meant that it overflowed from a basin/bath with the plug left in. It is a job you can do, but is fiddly and requires a couple of specialist tools. I'd recommend getting a plumber in to sort the problem. Also, if it takes force to turn the tap off, the washer inside is worn out and needs replacing - again a slightly tricky DIY job, but an easy fix for a plumber. You can also get replacement taps, which are often easier to fit than changing washers if the taps are really old. You are correct the taps look quiet ancient to be fair on both Bath and Sink which could explain a lot.It's actually running down the pipe, then down the back of the sink pipes. Same with the bath really that does the same with regards to water running down the pipe when not switched off properly. At the moment I can't afford a plumber so might have to try Silicone as a short term fix until I can call one in. 9 minutes ago, Wolfie said: I don't see why you wouldn't be able to put silicone round the tap. Or replace the tap with one that she can turn off. As far as the celing goes, obviously it would depend on the extent of the damage. We had a similar situation where our en-suite bath had a big leak when one of the jacuzzi pipes blew off. It looked pretty bad from underneath, with the ceiling sagging a bit but we had it fixed at the weekend and it just needed a section of plaster removing and re-doing. The structure of the floor/ ceiling was fine. We've been advised to use a couple of coats of undercoat paint, to stop the stains coming through but should be sorted now. It was a mate who did ours so only cost me a few quid (and a very nice homemade lasagne lunch) but I was previously quoted about £400 for the job - which seemed a bit over the top but I don't have anything to benchmark that against. That's good news I'll have to attempt the job of putting silicone on can't be that hard with some youtube guidance. Will look strange but rather that then the ceiling collapsing! Woah that's quite steep but sounds about the going rate maybe with the work which will need to be put in. The ceiling has quite a few cracks in a line I'm guessing where the boards are which the water is coming through. Has some patches of black now looks like a stain on the ceiling guessing from the water. It's about a meter each way but we have that mud swirl type of ceiling design which is a nightmare so might have to be the whole ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ashz09 said: That's good news I'll have to attempt the job of putting silicone on can't be that hard with some youtube guidance Come on now, I'm not DIY expert but you can't seriously be Googling how to put silicone on? you never handled a tube of toothpaste before? By the way, the gym membership is the way forward, you get added benefits then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, David said: Come on now, I'm not DIY expert but you can't seriously be Googling how to put silicone on? you never handled a tube of toothpaste before? By the way, the gym membership is the way forward, you get added benefits then. Weird you mention that I E-Mailed the missus this morning saying people at work saying I've put weight on! So might be added bonuses! I've done it before but I know there is a good way not to put to much or to less and have a good finish lol. Otherwise I'll YOLO it and end up with lumps etc knowing my luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Ashz09 said: I've done it before but I know there is a good way not to put to much or to less and have a good finish lol. Otherwise I'll YOLO it and end up with lumps etc knowing my luck! If you're worried about how it will look you could just follow Cornwall's advice, probably is the washer, ask around I bet you will know one person that has the tools and can fix you up without paying for a plumber tho. Silicone is the quick bodge job and only masking the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ashz09 said: Weird you mention that I E-Mailed the missus this morning saying people at work saying I've put weight on! So might be added bonuses! I've done it before but I know there is a good way not to put to much or to less and have a good finish lol. Otherwise I'll YOLO it and end up with lumps etc knowing my luck! go down to B&Q/Wilko and get yourself a tap washer and loosen the tap from the underside of the basin and replace the perished washer and retighten, cost you a couple of squid and looks aesthetically more pleasing than a wedge of sealant, sounds like your having fun mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I realise you're probably strapped for cash, but from my experience, you really need to tackle the cause pdq. We had (unbeknown to us) a seepage at the back of the cistern above the toilet. We started getting those mouldy stains on the kitchen ceiling, putting it down to my step-daughter constantly over-filling the bath or wash basin. I lost count of the times I painted stain-blocker paint on the kitchen ceiling - one of those artex squirly designs. Eventually, we were lucky enough to afford to have the bathroom re-vamped. The guy who did it (next-door neighbour, as it happened) stripped it back to the basics, and discovered the above long-time leak, which had started to rot the floor joists! You really need to make a big effort to find the root cause. Bite the bullet and get a competent plumber, the cost will be far more economical than the structural damage which may be caused. From your posts since you bought this house, it's a recurring problem. Incidentally, later on we had the artex ceiling plaster-boarded over and skimmed. Much easier to paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 5 hours ago, David said: Come on now, I'm not DIY expert but you can't seriously be Googling how to put silicone on? you never handled a tube of toothpaste before? By the way, the gym membership is the way forward, you get added benefits then. Yeah, she will be out more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 New taps £30 to buy. Plumber to fit? Allow min £60 plasterer to plaster ceiling allow £200 roughly the same as last time you asked for advice on the ceiling ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, Boycie said: New taps £30 to buy. Plumber to fit? Allow min £60 plasterer to plaster ceiling allow £200 roughly the same as last time you asked for advice on the ceiling ? No wonder you can afford all these holidays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Found a cheap solution mate, only £2.49 Inc p&p offa Ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 17 minutes ago, David said: No wonder you can afford all these holidays Them prices are bottom end too, there's some things that you have to take for granted; plumbers are expensive and plasterers are unreliable and messy. oh, and sparkys are the god amongst the trades. We bring light were there was dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Boycie said: oh, and sparkys are the god amongst the trades. We bring light were there was dark. You still don't know which end of a brush is the handle though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, Joe. said: You still don't know which end of a brush is the handle though It's beneath us, ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 It'd be a bloody big brush if it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Don't silicon the taps mate, you're only masking the problem, not solving it. Take some pictures on your phone, and post them on here, then I'm sure you'll get more responses on how to fix the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashz09 Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 9 hours ago, reveldevil said: Don't silicon the taps mate, you're only masking the problem, not solving it. Take some pictures on your phone, and post them on here, then I'm sure you'll get more responses on how to fix the problem. Will do pal. Will remember when I get home or get the missus to take a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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