ram1964 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Always had dogs and during the last 15 years started to adopt and rehome Bullmastiffs.To many of you ,you may regard these as being a dangerous breed often due to their size.Had a few over 65 kilos Unfortunately a lot of these dogs are mis treated due to people not being able to afford to look after them properly or want to use them as a status symbol.The breed itself was not bred for aggression and they are well natured ,with a loving personality and very loyal.Big teddy bears really. Unfortunately Bert an 8 year old male who i rescued 7 years ago ,after he was mistreated, having been locked in a small kitchen,only fed weatabix and never walked since a puppy has been a great companion ,adorable loving pet for our family. Today after concerns of an abscess in his mouth has been diagnosed as a cancerous tumour and the levels of surgery in the hope of recovery would in my opinion be to much to put the dog through so brought him home whilst he is still well within himself to spend a few days being spoilt rotten before having to PTS. The family are devastated and my youngest doesnt understand why he cant be fixed.Had a few traumas over the years watching Derby but certain things in life put everything in prospective ,and yes it is only a dog and over the years i have lost a few,But last weeks disapointment of not being promoted and the thought of Sherwood managing Derby some times pale into insignificance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Too right .. They are a part of our lives and dogs, more than any other creature, give unconditionally lost our last old mate 3 years ago and although we have a new manic bouncing loving furry object you don't forget .. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Dogs and animals are great. The only downside is they die so soon. Except some turtles and parrots. Bullmastiffs are so nice when they get a good home. I hope Bert enjoys the rest of his time. It's nice he has had a good home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 Feeding the bugger fresh chicken and a home made rice pudding for tea,not sure what we are going to have lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 There's no such thing as "only a dog". Only a human I could agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Feel for you ram1964. We had two Bullmastiffs at the same time, lost them both aged 7 within 5 months with different cancers. WhiIe I was digging Ella's grave, my next door neighbour came out and said "I hope you're digging that deep enough to prevent any smell" I told him I was digging it deep enough to cover his smell as well. He went back indoors without saying anything and never commented when I was digging Molly's grave. A more noble, faithful friend you'd have trouble finding than a Bullmastiff, I still miss 'em. I'll be thinking of how you're doing in the coming weeks mate, all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I love dogs more than I love humans. I welled up reading this @ram1964 seriously. Part of me is devastated for you, part is envious as I live alone in a flat, and am out of the flat for 2/3 of the day and most of the weekend, so I miss the companionship and unconditional love and loyalty of a dog. And simply, I miss the fun and games, my dogs have always been daft and funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 Thank you for your comments and kind words ,cant really express myself to the wife or kids becouse they are so cut up.Have another bullmastiff rescue dog who obviously senses things arent right and has been strezsed all day whilzt berts been at the vets ,just hope we get a few days with him before we have to think of the inevitable. Fortunatley self employed so will be spending thge rest of the week at home with the poor bugger.Not looking forward to putting him in the back garden,its bloody clay soil around here and the last one i buried took about 5 hours to dig and i was ieght years younger. Your right it isnt just a dog, but i do appreciate other people may have illness or loss of a love one which i wouldnt want to cause offence.just a bloody pity the poor might doesnt understand,would swap places for him if i could but PTS is more dignified and humane than some people get towards the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I've got a Bert too ram1964 - cocker spaniel though. Wouldn't be without him but know that will have to happen one day. I feel for you. We've lost two others over the years and I still miss them now. All the best fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I know what you mean, on Saturday our cat managed to dislocate both of his front legs at the elbow. We still have no idea how he did this, as both the emergency vet and the surgeon said they'd never seen this on a cat before (both legs that is - common with dogs as they aren't so good at landing from height). They said the surgery would be complex and involve external fixators for 4 weeks and then at least another couple of months in a cage. We both knew there was no way he would tolerate this and she said the chances of complications would be high. The surgery was also bloody expensive about £5k! He's only insured up to £4k, so we made a decision that it was cruel to spend that sort of money on extending his suffering when there wasn't really any guarantee of a positive outcome or any quality of life post-recovery Then the vet called back the next day to say she had spoken to sonme other orthapeadic surgeons and come up with a better plan, a simpler operation and one that didn't require external fixators and only a few weeks of cage rest. Also a much better prognosis. It was also much cheaper within the insurance limits, so we changed our minds. We may regret it if he doesn't get the outcome the vet predicts, but he's currently back at home with two shaved front legs and high as a kite on kitty-methadone! And yes I know these things are harder with dogs than cats as there is much more of a two way bond with dogs, so chin up fella and all the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 My previous dog (before the one that ran away briefly) was with me all my life. He was 5(ish) when we rescued him, a Lurcher. Came home from school at the age of 7 or so to my parents and a really excited black long haired lurcher (Collie/Whippit cross, we believe). My parents chose him because he was quiet as a mouse at the kennels and just stared at them. They thought it'd be nice to have a quiet dog. We ended up naming him Thunder, because he was not a quiet dog. When he started barking he would not stop, for anything, until whatever he was barking at had long gone. His best friend, Sarah the cat, was not very nice to people, or animals. She owned the neighbourhood, brought it in at least a bird a day and left me with a multitude of scars to remember her by. Loving scars. My brother's staffy cross was absolutely, rightfully terrified of her. But she'd always protect Thunder and he her. She died of cancer when I was in my late teens. He died when I was 22, at the ripe old age of 20(ish) - I'm thankful I could be his friend for so long. Now we have Kitsi, whom most of you have seen, an utterly insane Shiba Inu; and a cat, Stewie who's a bit of a runt and gets bullied by the local cats (no doubt telling tales of the oppression of Sarah). Can't imagine living without pets. They really make it all easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Recently bought our first ever dog for son, notionally to teach him a sense of responsibility. Neither me nor missus had dogs as kids so didn't know really what to expect. We got a labrador bitch pup from a local breeder. Safe to say she hasn't disappointed and is generally adored by all, despite the occasional wobble. Her crowning achievement to date was eating something that disagreed with her and gave her a nasty 24hr sickness/diarrhoea bug. This was on the day of the Brizzle home game so I left her in crate for a couple of hours to get on the road before my wife/son got home from work/school. The poor pup had a nasty poo attack and was so pleased to be let out, shot out of the crate wagging a poo-sodden tail vigorously which "decorated" wife and family room. I of course found it hilarious. She was fine next day after nursing with chicken and rice. We wouldn't be without her now - I can totally get the heartbreak @ram1964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I think @David now understands the value of having a dog in his life after years of being a cat man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Mostyn6 said: I think @David now understands the value of having a dog in his life after years of being a cat man. Love me dog to bits, me cats as well. I'm a proper Dr Dolittle. Did read the first post on this thread the other day but kinda stayed out. Losing a pet isn't something I like to think about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 11 hours ago, StivePesley said: I know what you mean, on Saturday our cat managed to dislocate both of his front legs at the elbow. We still have no idea how he did this, as both the emergency vet and the surgeon said they'd never seen this on a cat before (both legs that is - common with dogs as they aren't so good at landing from height). They said the surgery would be complex and involve external fixators for 4 weeks and then at least another couple of months in a cage. We both knew there was no way he would tolerate this and she said the chances of complications would be high. The surgery was also bloody expensive about £5k! He's only insured up to £4k, so we made a decision that it was cruel to spend that sort of money on extending his suffering when there wasn't really any guarantee of a positive outcome or any quality of life post-recovery Then the vet called back the next day to say she had spoken to sonme other orthapeadic surgeons and come up with a better plan, a simpler operation and one that didn't require external fixators and only a few weeks of cage rest. Also a much better prognosis. It was also much cheaper within the insurance limits, so we changed our minds. We may regret it if he doesn't get the outcome the vet predicts, but he's currently back at home with two shaved front legs and high as a kite on kitty-methadone! And yes I know these things are harder with dogs than cats as there is much more of a two way bond with dogs, so chin up fella and all the best Good look ,fingers crossed for you,if youve got any spare methadone may bob round for and dose myself up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 9 hours ago, HantsRam said: Recently bought our first ever dog for son, notionally to teach him a sense of responsibility. Neither me nor missus had dogs as kids so didn't know really what to expect. We got a labrador bitch pup from a local breeder. Safe to say she hasn't disappointed and is generally adored by all, despite the occasional wobble. Her crowning achievement to date was eating something that disagreed with her and gave her a nasty 24hr sickness/diarrhoea bug. This was on the day of the Brizzle home game so I left her in crate for a couple of hours to get on the road before my wife/son got home from work/school. The poor pup had a nasty poo attack and was so pleased to be let out, shot out of the crate wagging a poo-sodden tail vigorously which "decorated" wife and family room. I of course found it hilarious. She was fine next day after nursing with chicken and rice. We wouldn't be without her now - I can totally get the heartbreak @ram1964 Labradors love their food ,just dont let her get too fat as they find it difficult to lose the wieght once they put it on ,causing diuebetis and joint probs.Hope you have many good years with your newest member of the family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 10 hours ago, SaintRam said: My previous dog (before the one that ran away briefly) was with me all my life. He was 5(ish) when we rescued him, a Lurcher. Came home from school at the age of 7 or so to my parents and a really excited black long haired lurcher (Collie/Whippit cross, we believe). My parents chose him because he was quiet as a mouse at the kennels and just stared at them. They thought it'd be nice to have a quiet dog. We ended up naming him Thunder, because he was not a quiet dog. When he started barking he would not stop, for anything, until whatever he was barking at had long gone. His best friend, Sarah the cat, was not very nice to people, or animals. She owned the neighbourhood, brought it in at least a bird a day and left me with a multitude of scars to remember her by. Loving scars. My brother's staffy cross was absolutely, rightfully terrified of her. But she'd always protect Thunder and he her. She died of cancer when I was in my late teens. He died when I was 22, at the ripe old age of 20(ish) - I'm thankful I could be his friend for so long. Now we have Kitsi, whom most of you have seen, an utterly insane Shiba Inu; and a cat, Stewie who's a bit of a runt and gets bullied by the local cats (no doubt telling tales of the oppression of Sarah). Can't imagine living without pets. They really make it all easier. Love the sound of Thunder. Well Bert is obviously a Ram fan and fan going to miss him shareing the football results with me.If we had a particularly good result we would go and kick a bal in the back garden for 5 mins.He would be in goal cos he was useless and when he tackled due to his size he would havve me over,dirty little sod,always reminded me of a bigger version of billy bremner of leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, ram1964 said: Labradors love their food ,just dont let her get too fat as they find it difficult to lose the wieght once they put it on ,causing diuebetis and joint probs.Hope you have many good years with your newest member of the family I'm a bit of a numbers man so am constantlychecking what the daily kibble weight is, then adjusting down for any little treats etc. Thankfully we've got about a half acre of enclosed garden so she can tank around to her hearts content. You'respot on about needing to keep vigilant tho mate - we also have 2 cats so she's happily receiving little "presents". So far she's in good nick. Plenty of rippling muscle and a nice cinched waist. We're just finding out about spaying and apparently that can affect appetite! Thanks for good wishes and hope you too have many more years of great companionship to look forward to. I'll raise a glass in remembrance of your mastiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, HantsRam said: I'm a bit of a numbers man so am constantlychecking what the daily kibble weight is, then adjusting down for any little treats etc. Thankfully we've got about a half acre of enclosed garden so she can tank around to her hearts content. You'respot on about needing to keep vigilant tho mate - we also have 2 cats so she's happily receiving little "presents". So far she's in good nick. Plenty of rippling muscle and a nice cinched waist. We're just finding out about spaying and apparently that can affect appetite! Thanks for good wishes and hope you too have many more years of great companionship to look forward to. I'll raise a glass in remembrance of your mastiff. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 12 hours ago, ilkleyram said: I've got a Bert too ram1964 - cocker spaniel though. Wouldn't be without him but know that will have to happen one day. I feel for you. We've lost two others over the years and I still miss them now. All the best fella Cheers,he had a better day today after the anaesthetic wore off had him out out for a quiet walk and he had a packet of loin chops for his tea,so alround a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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